I'm sure a major reason W8JI leaves everything connected is because it would
take him about 4 hours to disconnect it all! :^)
Jim, you have chosen to take the risk of leaving everything connected. Good for
you; it shows your confidence in your own engineering. But surely you'll agree
that it i
On 5/7/2024 4:46 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
In spite of all the grounding and bonding and spark-gapping and
everything else you may have done, are you confident enough that you
would trust it all and let the direct hit happen? Or would you
disconnect everything -- you know, just in case?
I suspect eve
Imagine that, somehow, you could know for certain that tonight you were going
to get direct-hit by lightning on your antenna.
In spite of all the grounding and bonding and spark-gapping and everything else
you may have done, are you confident enough that you would trust it all and let
the direc
te
> > for more robust I/O design, better serviceability and improved
> > documentation. I hope your challenges are behind you soon!
> >
> > 73, Peter (VK6HP)
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
for more robust I/O design, better serviceability and improved
> documentation. I hope your challenges are behind you soon!
>
> 73, Peter (VK6HP)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Monda
ges are behind you soon!
>
> 73, Peter (VK6HP)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
> Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Monday, 6 May 2024 1:42 AM
> To: Mike Fatchett W0MU
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject
We may not know the tune but the encore is sad and familiar: The cost to
repair the damage is equal to the deductible on your homeowner's insurance
policy. "Ask me how I know."
/Rick N6XI
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:13 PM Jim Brown wrote:
> On 5/5/2024 6:11 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> > There
On 5/5/2024 6:11 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
There is no rhyme or reason why some devices are not damaged and other are.
Indeed there IS rhyme and reason, but some of us haven't learned the
tune! :)
73, Jim K9YC
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On 5/4/2024 9:57 PM, Rick NK7I wrote:
From your description Jorge, it sounds like you did it correctly, but
missed an entry point.
I don't have sufficient information to agree that what Jorge described
was correct. HOW all of that is done, matters. Failure to bond all the
ground rods, and to
challenges are behind you soon!
73, Peter (VK6HP)
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2024 1:42 AM
To: Mike Fatchett W0MU
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning concerns: Was: K4 Remot
Jorge,
In short, no. As has been stated repeatedly lightning protection is the
responsibility of the owner, not the radio vendor.
Can we move on to other topics please?
73, Adrian
K7RJS
> On May 5, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
>
> hello
>
> To finish with this topic, I w
Jorge,
Your question was answered already...
73,
Dave,
https://www.nk7z.net
On 5/5/24 10:42, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
hello
To finish with this topic, I was just wondering if a device that is
intended for use in remote stations, always connected and in some cases
with no one to disconnect dur
Asked, answered (no, there isn't a more robust device); it's up to the
station owner/designer to protect the station, not a manufacturer.
Let's move on please.
Rick nk7i
On 5/5/2024 10:42 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
hello
To finish with this topic, I was just wondering if a device that is
After a lightning strike took out my shack computer, all of the Ethernet
switches in line to the router and the router itself, I came up with
what I call an "air gap". I use VirtualHere ($49 for the software)
running on a Raspberry Pi to act as a USB server. The Raspberry Pi is
connected to a
hello
To finish with this topic, I was just wondering if a device that is
intended for use in remote stations, always connected and in some cases
with no one to disconnect during storms, could not have a better USB
connector, for example
If he tells me it can't be done, fine, my question has been
John,
Remember the "Cone of Silence" in the old TV show Get Smart... There is
a "Cone of Protection" for lightening, although it was not as funny as
the "Cone of Silence" was... See:
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADP002181.pdf
and
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lightening+cone+of+protection
Some lightning musings
My K3s network interface board took a surge on the USB part of the board
a few years ago and toasted a diode and maybe a transistor (I forgot),
RS232 was unaffected. Elecraft replaced the board and returned the old
one. One of my to-do list items is to replace those
Lightning is like wildfires which burn some houses or land but not
others. There is no rhyme or reason why some devices are not damaged
and other are. I suspect that most items were damaged but not made
inoperable.
Couldn't the argument be made that the computer or USB hub should do
more an
Thread subject changed to reflect the actual topic.
It is the station owner that is responsible for lightning protection (or
other environmental risks); not Elecraft or most any product vendor of
any type. To require more, would cost more (for the hardware and for
the liability risk that the
My antenna is a broad-banded, low-Q, folded-fan vertical, low profile at
just 33 ft. tall on a city lot. It covers 160m thru 6m with just a few
components in its "tuner box" at feedpoint on the ground. Of course
everything is directly connected to Mother Earth ground, DC wise and RF
wise, which
Lightning is attracted to the highest point contact on earth from a cloud
passing overhead. If your tower, or tree in the yard, the chimney on your
roof, or the roof itself can be the closest to the heavily charged cloud
passing just overhead. When the leader from earth, tree, building or tower
is
Essentially, your antenna is a lightning rod. Lightning rods don't
"attract" lightning. The dissipate the charge differential between the
cloud and earth before the charge builds sufficiently to provide a path
for a "leader" charge from earth to the cloud. When a "leader" is
established, the "f
Snow static and rain also can generate a nice charge. Saw that in the 60’s had
a long wire not connected to my sx-99 rcvr and end laying about 1-2 inches from
chassis and drawing a nice blue arc btw them. This was in winter and snowing.
73 john
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In addition to everything else suggested, I disconnect all coax cables outside
my home and
In addition to everything else suggested, I disconnect all coax cables outside
my home and let them lay on the ground. I use a trailer type connector to
unplug my antenna rotator. I further use a heavy duty DPDT switch for my full
wave 80 meter loop, not to ground but to open. (lightning doesn'
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> On Behalf Of Wes
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 8:12 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning protection.
>
> I took a quick look at these on Amazon.. Hugely expensive and very
> unreliable.
>
> Wes N7WS
It looks like the fiber optic cable from Corning has 28AWG wires end to end!
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 8:12 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning protection.
I took a quick look
I took a quick look at these on Amazon.. Hugely expensive and very unreliable.
Wes N7WS
On 8/17/2020 3:40 PM, Byron Servies wrote:
FYI,
Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution:
https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/products/usb-optical-cables.html
FYI,
Corning makes an integrated USB/fiber -> fiber/usb solution:
https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/en/products/usb-optical-cables.html
73, Byron N6NUL
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:11 AM Barry Baines via Elecraft
wrote:
>
> Dave:
>
> > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dave
Dave:
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dave Baxter via Elecraft
> wrote:
>
> FYI.
>
> RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse)
> surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that
> expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC.
>
>
FYI.
RS232 (and other serial link type) LEMP (Lightning Electro Magnetic Pulse)
surge protectors are available from several vendors, and not that
expensive, compared to the cost of a rig, or top range PC.
Often wonder why (other than expence) fibre optic links are not used. CAT
& audio over a LA
One note: Keith mis-spoke when he stated "Spare K3 board supplies are low
or gone". We certainly are not stopping support and repairs for the K3 and
K3S. (Of course there are some lightning damaged radios that are not
economical to repair.) Though some repairs may take longer as replacement
parts
On 8/15/2020 8:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
Also, this talk, first at Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral
ham clubs, all of which preceded Ward's book.
forgot the link.
http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf
73, Jim K9YC
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Ward Silver also gave a presentation on this at the QSOtoday virtual hamfest.
Still available for watching.
David K0LUM
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
> On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote:
>> Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver
>
> Yes. I collaborated wi
On 8/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Simmons wrote:
Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver
Yes. I collaborated with Ward on it. Also, this talk, first at
Pacificon, next at Visalia DX, and to saveral ham clubs, all of which
preceded Ward's book.
73, Jim K9YC
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Grounding and Bonding, ARRL book by Ward Silver
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j...@kk9a.com wrote on 8/14/2020 10:02 PM:
Disconnecting is not a reliable way to protect your home and station from a
lightning strike. A strike can induce high voltage into your home wiring
without
Disconnecting is not a reliable way to protect your home and station from a
lightning strike. A strike can induce high voltage into your home wiring
without the antenna being connected and cause a lot of damage. There are
many papers on lightning protection, proper single point grounding is a good
I signed up for the ARRL-sponsored equipment insurance, which covers
lightning.
I also have PARADAN grounding boxes to bleed off "charge". In 3 trees
around the house, I have "lightning rods" (air terminals, now) at the
70' level, with the antenna 50' off the ground.
K2BIO
On 8/14/2020 2:52
I took a hit a year ago in September.
To make a long story short my ham desk now has 3 connections:
- A single Coax
- 120v
- 220v
All antenna switching and rotor control is via Green Heron Everywhere
wireless interfaces. My rotor boxes and switches can still take a hit
but the equipment on
I don't know if this really helps or not, but I connect my computer to the
internet through a WiFi. I have DSL which feeds a WiFi Router. That DSL
modem and the router are the only things connected to the phone line.
When lightning threatens I disconnect all power, ground, coax, rotator
control
Hi all;
I am starting to see our yearly peak of Lightning damaged radios come in
for repair, August through October.
It is MOST likely to come in through the COMM PORT connected to your
COMPUTER (via DSL or Cable Modem).
Those lines are LONG and run for miles, so a direct hit is not necessary
YES
Now lets dump the spell check
Russ
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Original message
From: K9MA
Date: 11/7/17 7:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning damage
Not lightening, LIGHTNING!
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Not lightening, LIGHTNING!
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I have several series mode surge protectors. They are big, heavy and
more expensive but have none of the limitations of MOV sacrificial shunt
devices.
I would get rid of any older MOV-based surge protection devices that are
lying around. They have been known to burn. The newer ones are suppose
I know personally (not FOF) of one death due to a hanging RF cable, in
this case a cb antenna. Don't just leave the lead to your antenna
hanging. I use very inexpensive switches from epay that have a grounded
off.
MOV devices only absorb a finite, unpredictable, number of hits. In
other words
Hi Group:
Well, now and then I'm disappointed that I don't have a permanent shack.
However, after hearing some of those lightning stories there's certainly an
additional plus side to being a portable-only QRP operator. All my gear is
disconnected from the AC mains, don't have any antenna
I just read about an ELVE above the Czech Republic. ELVE - Emissions of
Light and Very Low Frequency Perturbations. http://spaceweather.com/ has
an article and an image. The phenomenon creates a red doughnut shaped
ring lasting less than 0.001 seconds. It does require a more forceful
lightni
Sorry, should have been more specific. I'm talking TV cable coax, which
goes though the UPS surge suppression system, rudimentary, but it works
where I'm at currently.
That said, you've given me some ideas on what to do when we eventually
move to someplace where I can put up more than a 60 fo
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Protection (was-Re: suggested PC???)
YES!
Another VERY important thing is to NEVER use "MOV surge protectors" on branch
circuits. They're gr
easy to spot defective ones.
73,
Fred, AE6QL
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning Protection (was-Re: suggested PC???)
YES
>> (b) Install a whole house surge protector at the main breaker
>> panel. These are sometimes referred to as Secondary Surge
>> Protectors. Usually should be installed by a qualified licensed
>> electrician.
The buzz word for these is "TVSS" (Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor).
I recently h
YES!
Another VERY important thing is to NEVER use "MOV surge protectors" on
branch circuits. They're great at the service entrance, as Bob
recommends, but they CAUSE equipment damage when used on branch circuit,
because the MOVs dump the lightning spike onto the Green wire, which
creates a hi
Two things I've found to be a big deterrent regarding lightning damage:
(a) all driven grounds must be bonded back to the AC mains ground and
this must be done outside of the house. I use some 1/2" flexible
copper water line as my bonding conductor. It is trenched around the
outside of the
Neil:
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:
>
> FWIW ... I've got everything setup wired in the shack, but everything (cable
> coax, ethernet, power) runs through an uninterruptible power supply (ups).
> Many of the higher end models provide not only power surge protection and
Hi guys:
Lesson learned! I should not be attempting remote ops to my station on
Maryland's Eastern Shore during the summer months. We get lightning
strikes, and I got creamed a couple weeks ago. Everything was hooked up,
and I am now having to replace my Orion 2800 rotor, and repair or replace
I'd like to know what was grounded ?
Please,
Dick, n0ce
- Original Message -
From: Joel Black
To: elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Lightning Strikes Twice
Yep, less than a week away from Field Day and I got hit by lightning -
Yep, less than a week away from Field Day and I got hit by lightning -
again. As a matter of fact, most of my work (my paid job) over the past
week has been due to lightning.
So far, the only amateur equipment that seems affected is my HD-73 rotor
or the controller. It turns on, but the need
Don,
Really sorry to hear that. I empathize. We lost two major appliances late June
when the Derecho hit Virginia with 75 mph winds and a lightning show like I
haven't seen in many years. That lightning hit was not direct, but we heard
the snap in the house. It came through a wall receptacle
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> a nearby lightning strike last evening
>
>
That is a bummer, Don. Lightning can make its way throughout the house by
various evil means. A few years ago a strike hit a tree across the street,
traveled across the crown of ne
I am currently "computer handicapped" because of a nearby lightning
strike last evening.
I think I have accessed the damage, but there may be more to be revealed
once more devices come on-line.
It seems the damage propagated via the wired Ethernet connections - I
lost 3 (maybe 4) computers on m
Alan,
Listen to Don Wilhem, he knows of what he speaks. Even if you can't get all
that done, get a start on it. I live in Costa Rica and in the "winter"
months (June-Nov) it would be /unusual/ if we didn't have a lightning storm
nearly every day. If I were you I would at a minimum get that roof gr
I didn't mean to imply that anyone should follow my example; I was
just relating what I do in my relatively simple station and computer
setup.
I'm not about to install a sophisticated grounding system, so
unplugging stuff is the next best option. I probably wouldn't go that
route if my setup was
Well, I don't have as much as you do connected to the K3: two
antennas; counterpoise; key; headphones; power cable; occasionally
RS232 and/or audio cables.
Computer has CAT5; audio cables; printer; scanner; monitor; keyboard;
power; perhaps RS232 and audio to K3. (I can re-plug all this stuff by
f
3 - it would take me at
least 15 minutes to figure out where each one goes!).
Dick K8ZTT
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject:
An alternative to unplugging everything -- create a system where
everything will be at the same potential through a surge event and you
will have no damage.
Run a #4 (or larger) perimeter wire around your house (and any other
buildings) with a ground rod at each point where it changes direction
ings!!
>
> Dick K8ZTT
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan D. Wilcox
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:56 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Lightnin
just curious
how many things (actual number please)
do you unplug from both your K3 and the computer/router?
I know my K3 has 14 or more cables to it
and the radio computer has to have at least that many again
the firewall computer in the other room has 6
and the router has 3
then there is the oth
I think i've posted this before: During lightning season I disconnect
everything from my K3 when it is not in use, including headphones and
key. Same goes for my PC and router. I leave no cables connected to
any of these boxes. It is a bit annoying, especially at the start of
the season when I have
As far as "active" targeting goes, a flat, planar roof definitely does
not "attract" lightning. Points of attraction are high, sharp & pointed,
conductive objects that help to form the leader (ground to air) strike.
That said, lightning has a tendency to splay around and involve objects
near th
Hello,
Unusual electrical storms here on top of hill on Sunday evening (9/11).
On Saturday, the roofing contractor finished putting half of metal roof
on house. Received lightning strike to roof (I think), but saw flash
onto front walkway. Heard explosion right at my wall. Couldn't find
point o
During tstm season when I'm not using the K3 everything gets
disconnected, including power cord, key and headphones. Same goes for
the PC. Yes, it is a PITA but I'm so used to it at this point that I
can plug everything back in with my eyes closed.
73,
Drew
AF2Z
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:11:07 -
And if it doesn't work the first time, try a few more times.
Rick N6XI
On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Mike wrote:
> The instructions are also in the K3 Utility help file, and I suspect may be
> newer. It
> is recommended that the power off be at least 30 seconds, and if that doesn't
> work,
>
For those of you who are non-believers in the power of a lightning strike,
check these photos:
http://s993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/andyvavra/Lightning/ Photo slide
show
I had */EXACTLY/* the same thing happen in 2007 when lightning struck a tree
in my back yard and coupled to a cable TC lin
Simple power off from the power button is not sufficient. Follow ALL
the instructions - remove the power plug from the K3 and let all the
electrons drain from the electrolytic capacitors, then restore power and
power on. When it comes alive, it should blink the LED and should be
ready to r
The instructions are also in the K3 Utility help file, and I suspect may be
newer. It
is recommended that the power off be at least 30 seconds, and if that doesn't
work,
longer.
73, Mike NF4L
On 7/7/2011 1:33 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
> Tom Doligalski-2 wrote:
>> I've ordered the replacement K3 se
Tom Doligalski-2 wrote:
>
> I've ordered the replacement K3 serial i/o board, but would love to get
> the K3 out of the update mode for the weekend (that is, now every time I
> turn the K3 on it is wanting an MCU load).
>
> Anyone have an idea about how to return the K3 to regular service (whic
I recently had a lightning strike near the house, which entered on the cable
line. Immediately afterword the cable modem was smoking (and hot to the
touch!), and my wireless access point (WAP) was dead. Unfortunately, my PC
connected to the WAP, also was dead, and my P3 and K3 connected also hav
Gents,
I have been hamming for 50 years this year.
I have grounded towers, ham shacks, computer rooms.
I was taught by a roustabout years ago that nothing works.
Drill rigs are grounded every which way and when lightning strikes close or
far
things fry.
The only way to protect any gear is to unpl
I think the problem is that many of our shacks are not ideally situated,
and the grounding standards cannot be fully implemented. Mine, for
example, is on the second floor of an old house. A low inductance
ground is impossible to come by up here, and while I believe the
engineering theory abo
Folks, while this is an interesting topic, we are overloading the list
with the volume of posts regarding it. Let's wind it down in the next
2-3 hours.
It has also been discussed in detail in many past postings that can be
easily searched for in the Nabble archives.
73,
Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft
It is a pity that the NEC is so expensive ($85 list $67 Amazon) and
changes with revisions every three years. It is a book that should
be on a lot of amateur's bookshelves. Not always easy reading but is
very carefully written and defines best practices. Interestingly
enough it is published
On 3/29/2011 5:12 AM, Phil Townsend wrote:
> As a matter of fact during the lightning season I disconnect the antennas
> from my gear when it looks like the Wx is gonna go south.
A good idea, but the cables still enter your shack. Potentials that can
create a "spark" a mile long won't be fazed b
On 3/29/2011 9:20 AM, Dave, W8OV wrote:
> So I asked them yesterday if there was any bonding of that rod to
> the ground on the entrance panel side of the house. The response was
> "They are not bonded. That ground rod is not a system ground and does
> not need to be bonded to the existing ground
/29/11, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> From: Don Wilhelm
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning in New Mexico
> To: "Phil Townsend"
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector"
> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:23 AM
>
> Phil,
>
> Despite disconnecting your antennas, you s
Dave,
I believe you would get the opposite answer from a qualified electrician
or your county inspector. Maybe one with the proper credentials will
answer on this list.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 3/29/2011 12:20 PM, Dave, W8OV wrote:
> These posts on lightning protection served to get me considering
These posts on lightning protection served to get me considering my
shack, etc. I had solar panels installed last summer, and on the side
of the house opposite the electrical entrance panel the installers ran a
wire from the PV panels, inverters, etc., down to a ground rod they put
in. So I a
nplug!!
George, W6GF
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Don Wilhelm wrote:
From: Don Wilhelm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning in New Mexico
To: "Phil Townsend"
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector"
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:23 AM
Phil,
Despite disconnecting your antennas, you still have t
;t
been legal for years, but a lot of homes have been around longer than that.
Ron AC7AC
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:13 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subjec
Phil,
Despite disconnecting your antennas, you still have to consider that the
coax shields enter the house.
Yes, ground rod #2 (and #3 and all others) are to be bonded to the AC
Electrical Entry ground rod.
I am not sure why that is counterintuitive to you. Yes, there is a very
real possi
The "ground police" would be the local electrical inspector for new
construction. If the antenna system is constructed after occupancy,
the "ground police" would consist of the local fire dept.
investigation team after the fire. Any penalty will come from the
insurance company, not the Sh
Physics is the lightning police! And I for one do not want them knocking at my
door.
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On Mar 29, 2011, at 1:41 AM, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
>
>> They are not "big government" to be scorned, they are based on God's
>> Laws of Physics to be learned and respected.
>
> Amen!
>
> They are not "big government" to be scorned, they are based on God's
>Laws of Physics to be learned and respected.
Amen!
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On 3/28/2011 10:12 PM, Phil Townsend wrote:
> (knock on the the door ITS the ground police)
Grounding regulations are there because they are the right way to
protect people and property from Lightning and from faults on the power
system. They are written in the form of Electrical Building Codes
The ground rod (#1) I placed just outside my shack/ house is about 16 or 17
feet from the meter/ ground rod that connects to the AC mains.
So if I run a bunch of fat parallel wires that are bonded to BOTH ground rods
that will be a good thing to do. (and required...by law)(knock on the the door
I'm on the central Oregon coast, close to the waves, and we see lightning
storms several times a year from squalls brought ashore by the "Pineapple
Express" (the strong weather pattern that draws storms from the vicinity of
Hawaii right to us).
I'm always careful to keep the antenna grounded when
Tnx Just what we need, more traffic on downtown I-5
KXBill
> From: phys...@mac.com
> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:53:15 -0700
> To: farrerfo...@yahoo.com
> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning season is on the way in New Mexico.
>
> You guys s
m: FredJensen
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 4:39:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning season is on the way in New Mexico.
>
> Grounding and lightning protection is not a simple subject Phil. Here's
> what I would recommend:
>
> If your ho
: Re: [Elecraft] Lightning season is on the way in New Mexico.
Grounding and lightning protection is not a simple subject Phil. Here's
what I would recommend:
If your home is wired to NEC standards, the neutral [center-tap on the
pole pig] will be tied to the safety ground [green wire in
Byron,
Thanks for posting that quote.
As a matter of importance, all "grounds" are not the same. What we have
been discussing is the Electrical Safety Ground, which IMHO is the most
important one to be considered. The safety of you and your family
depend on it.
The RF return (antenna groun
Bob,
A ground fault is either an open ground wire in the AC wiring system, or
it is more commonly a short of the hot wire to ground (could be just
leakage, like leakage from a capacitor from the hot wire to the chassis).
The separate grounds do not have the same resistance back to the AC
mai
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