Re: [Elecraft] K3s power level macro

2023-12-06 Thread Robert Strickland via Elecraft
Jack... Works just like you outlined. Also, I notice that the power out indicator on the KPA500 reads the power out of the k3 when in standby mode. I wonder how accurate that is compared to a dedicated inline power meter. At any rate, looking forward to this new flexibility. ...robert

Re: [Elecraft] K3s power level macro

2023-12-05 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Is 17mSec not fast enough? When you hit the OP button on the KPA, it tells the K3 to make the adjustment, and the power is very quickly changed. Same is true when you go from OP to STBY, the K3 goes back to 100 watts. I seriously question whether you can do things as fast with a macro and having

Re: [Elecraft] K3s power level macro

2023-12-05 Thread Robert Strickland via Elecraft
Mike and Jack... Thanks for your suggestions. Mike, I'm not clear "where" you are implementing your macro; perhaps you are using the K3 utility. I'd like to avoid that and interact with the radio directly. Jack, what I'm looking for is not different drive levels on different bands, but

Re: [Elecraft] K3s power level macro

2023-12-05 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
We thought about that when we designed the KPA500. Take a look at page 29 of the K3S Rev A manual - "Per-band Power Control”. You need to have the KPA500 communicating with the K3 through the Aux I/O cable. It works amazingly well, no macros needed! 73, Jack, W6FB > On Dec 5, 2023, at 12:35 

[Elecraft] K3s power level macro

2023-12-05 Thread Robert Strickland via Elecraft
Is there a way to program a macro within the K3s to set power level(s)? My goal is to be able to shift between low power barefoot [100w] and a drive level for the KPA500 [15-20w]. Thanks ...robert KE2WY -- Robert G. Strickland, PhD ABPH KE2WY rc...@verizon.net Syracuse, New York FN13xa

[Elecraft] For Sale: Elecraft 500W Power Combo

2023-11-08 Thread mark
Gang, I'm parting with my KPA500 / KAT500 combo. Was new from Elecraft in February 2021. Both units work perfectly and are cosmetically excellent. Includes original manuals, 120V power cable and fuses, 1x KXSER (E850463), tuner power cable, NEMA 6-15P power cable (the one I used), Key Line

[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft 500W Power Combo

2023-11-07 Thread Mark Adams
I'm parting with my KPA500 / KAT500 combo. Was new from Elecraft in February 2021. Both units work perfectly and are cosmetically excellent. Includes original manuals, 120V power cable and fuses, 1x KXSER (E850463), tuner power cable, NEMA 6-15P power cable, Key Line cable, Computer interface

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Power Surge Advice

2023-08-07 Thread Michael Carter
Thanks, Geert Jan, for recounting the 'origin story' of the K2 'twins', the outboard combination of the KPA100 and KAT100. I had not previously heard of the origin and Lyle's (KK7P) role in that process. I hope Larry can provide more detail about the actual configuration of his outboard KPA100.

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Power Surge Advice

2023-08-07 Thread Geert Jan de Groot
Hi, In addition to Mike's response (always happy to read his comments!), I think it is useful to give some additional hints as you may need a better understanding of the configuration you have. The Elecraft K2 is a 15W QRP transceiver, with the optional QRP antennatuner and the battary

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Power Surge Advice

2023-08-07 Thread Michael Carter
Hi Larry, You mention in the title '...Power Surge Advice.' I presume your KPA100 was working properly prior to not powering up? You also describe the connection from your power supply to the KPA100 and then to the K2 - does this imply a Y-connection from the power supply to both the K2 and

[Elecraft] KPA100 Power Surge Advice

2023-08-07 Thread Larry Dodson via Elecraft
Advice would be much appreciated. I would start by saying that I am not very electronically skilled. The power suppy goes from the power supply to a KPA100 in a separate enclosure which I built from a kit, then to the K2 Radio. The KPA100 does not light up, no power. 73 - Larry(G0IKE)

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread M Cresap via Elecraft
Hi Dave, Joe, and Jim The GMSK to AM distortion across any 50 Hz bandwidth of a K3 filter would seem to be minor. With an FT8 symbol rate of 6.25 symbols per second, would that not create some relatively weak 6.25 Hz sidebands plus a bit of mush around those lines due to the pseudorandom

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Doppler caused "spreading" is readily identified ... the spreading is generally in one direction (because airport "patterns" run in one direction) and often manifests as a second signal offset by 60-80 Hz (which can be independently decoded). IMD is generally in both directions and can not be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/23/2023 9:49 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: It is my belief that many of the wide FT8 signals seen on 6 m FT8 are caused by Doppler shifted aircraft reflections. It's very common here in the Phoenix metro area and does not imply that the transmitted signal was in any way abnormal. YES! It's

[Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Andy Durbin
"Clean FT8 spectra is badly needed, especially in metro areas at 10 meters and above, where many poor quality FT8 signals abound and wipe out many of the weaker stations that other stations are trying to receive. Yes, there are suggestions that folks in the same area all transmit at the same

[Elecraft] K3 Power hunting on FT-8

2023-07-23 Thread Bob McGraw
Whereas it was written:   "The manufacturer says use 5 bars of ALC, end of story.  I don't buy that at all." (W3IP) The manufacturer DOES NOT say use 5 bars of  ALC.   However, it does say use 4 bars of audio as displayed on the ALC scale and the 5th bar flickering.  This is per the writer of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
Hello Mike, Thanks for sharing your data!! Help me understand something you said... Are you saying that at 2 bars, (for your K4), all spurious signals, are at least 80 dB down from carrier, while at 5 bars, all spurious signals are running around 50 or 60 dB down from carrier? 73, and

[Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Bob McGraw
Oh my goodness! What Don, W3FPR wrote  is 100% correct! Whomever K3 user told you to EVER use the output control other than MAX at ALL TIMES needs to go back to learning. They are NOT helping you. (NK7I) I'd go back to what Elecraft says in their manual. (K9YC) Again, READ THE K3 OWNERS

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread Rick NK7I
That the K3 and K4 are clean transmitters (for a 12V final) is awesome for everyone on the air. Elecraft sets the bar again. But the highly popular JT modes are not the only audio based digital modes used these days. Others are more complex than one continuous phase shifted tone. With that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-23 Thread M Cresap via Elecraft
I have been running tests on K3s and K4s to understand the conditions needed to transmit clean FT8 signals. I have previously shared some of my findings with Pete N4ZR and a couple of other folks. Their feedback has been very valuable. Joe Taylor, K1JT has shown the spectral purity of the FT4

[Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-21 Thread Andy Durbin
"It will remain as clean as the audio, up to the point the ALC begins to kick in; then it goes bad like any other radio. That’s the fault of ALC, not the radio." What goes bad? Nothing goes bad for a Kenwood TS-590S when drive level moves into the ALC closed loop control range. Remember

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Are you sure the "technically-qualified local ham" was not running his tests in SSB instead of DATA A? There are more than a few "technically- qualified" individuals who insist on using SSB instead of DATA_A with WSJTX and that makes all the difference in the ALC display. Again, READ THE K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Rick NK7I
Pete, I would suspect that the local ham didn’t account for you overdriving his receiver (or test set) which would explain why an underdriven signal appeared cleaner (no overload). Had he attenuated your 4 bar signal, it would have been clean, I’m 100% certain. A full audio supplied (just shy

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread David Gilbert
Sorry, but I would want to see live spectrum displays of my own rig with a known hardware setup instead of images of some other K3 with unknown K3 settings and unknown test setup.  Hundreds of us have been following the just barely flickering 5 bar rule with excellent performance. You know

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Walter Underwood
I recommend finding someone with a P3 or other spectrum display and trying this on *your* K3 rather than looking at pictures of “a K3”. Running with insufficient audio drive, which is what you are doing, has known problems, which you are experiencing. I would be glad to do it with my KX3 and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
OK guys - rather than reply individually, let me try to pull everything together in one message. In a previous effort at FT8 I followed the standard advice to set the power slider in WSJT-X (on the lower RIGHT side) so that my K-3 showed 4 bars on the ALC meter, just below the threshold for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Rick NK7I
Hi Jim, Maybe you’d feel better knowing that with WSJT-X at max; I had always adjusted the OS driver level plus the rig levels, starting mid range on both. And from midway, find the right blend to get the level to be proper with neither control at (or near) max so nobody shouts and no one

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2023 2:47 PM, Rick NK7I wrote: s said MANY times, set the WSJT-X output to MAX, then IGNORE IT. Hi Rick, This is the only part of your excellent advice that I disagree with. The reason is that the analog stages of computer gear tend to be poor, and start generating increased

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/20/2023 2:16 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I've recently started operating FT8, and on advice from other K3 users, have been adjusting the power slider in WSJT-X to a level just short of or just into the first flickers of ALC.  I did this because I was advised that setting the slider for 4

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Dan Violette
Yes, it hunts for a couple seconds first time on a change (freq, mode, power, turn on). Elecraft mentioned it has to do with it setting its power level (it works a bit to get stabilized and not noticed normally). After the first TX time it will be fine. Dan KI6X Message: 14 Date: Thu

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Rick NK7I
Whomever K3 user told you to EVER use the output control other than MAX at ALL TIMES needs to go back to learning. They are NOT helping you. The WSJT-X output control is an AUDIO control, not an RF output control. On any rig made since 1985, one wants to adjust the RF for RF and the audio for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread W3FPR
Pete, Set the audio level to make the first 4 bars of the ALC meter solid with the 5th bar just flickering. The K3 ALC onset is at the 5th bar, the bars below it are an aid to adjusting the audio properly for digital modes. Your advice from "other K3 users" is not correct.  ALC starts at the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Fred Jensen
Pete: The first 4 bars on the K3 ALC are just an audio level indication [i.e. VU meter].  ALC action starts at the 5th bar, which you want to be just flickering.  Unless you have 4 solid bars, the K3 will keep trying to adjust the TX gain to achieve the selected output power and it may not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Walter Underwood
By “first flickers of ALC” do you mean one bar flickering? If so, that will cause power hunting. Not sure who advised against setting it at the 4th bar, but that was probably bad advice. That sounds like advice for non-Elecraft transmitters. I recommend following the setup instructions on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Paul Maciel
Hi Peter, Setting the ALC for FT8 is different than other transceivers due to the way the K3 adjusts power. You should adjust the slider to give four solid bars and the fifth flickering. You find the outputvwull be ver stable then. See you on the bands! —-Paul AK1P Sent from my iPhone >

[Elecraft] K3 Power-hunting on FT8

2023-07-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I've recently started operating FT8, and on advice from other K3 users, have been adjusting the power slider in WSJT-X to a level just short of or just into the first flickers of ALC.  I did this because I was advised that setting the slider for 4 or 5 bars of ALC generated junk in the FT8

[Elecraft] K3 power supply

2023-05-25 Thread István Szabó
I have been using my silent SPA 8230 power supply for many years. Its mains switch started show contact errors, would like to replace it. As QRP Shop Biz in Germany closed last year need help to find where can I find switch replacement. Could you please help with the switch type and manufacturer

Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output

2023-05-12 Thread Ingo Meyer DK3RED
Hello Dave, I have a K1 that I’m looking to sell, and took a look at the power output before listing it. Power output is as follows: 40 meters 5.2 watts 30 meters 4.5 watts 20 meters 1.3 watts 17 meters 0.7 watts These are obviously not the expected power output levels. Power supply

Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output

2023-05-11 Thread DAVID MOORMAN
Numbers using the Elecraft 20 watt dummy load rather than resonated antennas: 40 M 4.8 W 30 M 5.5 W 20 M2.0 W 15 M1.7 W Dave K9SW > On May 11, 2023, at 6:52 PM, DAVID MOORMAN wrote: > > I have a K1 that I’m looking to sell, and took a look at the power output > before

Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output

2023-05-11 Thread Vincent Shu
Hello David, The same issue also exists in my two K1. Waiting for help 73, Vincent BH5HTF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

[Elecraft] K1 power output

2023-05-11 Thread DAVID MOORMAN
I have a K1 that I’m looking to sell, and took a look at the power output before listing it. Power output is as follows: 40 meters 5.2 watts 30 meters 4.5 watts 20 meters 1.3 watts 17 meters 0.7 watts These are obviously not the expected power output levels. Power supply voltage = 12.8

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread jerry
On 2022-08-14 08:43, Dick Dievendorff wrote: The KPA1500 power supply container houses several power supplies. Only a small one is on all the time. It can run a microcontroller and switch the larger supplies, but not much else. *** And with good reason. It's hard to switch say 65Amps at 50V (

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The KPA1500 power supply container houses several power supplies. Only a small one is on all the time. It can run a microcontroller and switch the larger supplies, but not much else. The 50V and 12v supplies are switched completely off when the amp is “off”. The fans are associated with the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread Rick Tavan
I leave my KPA1500 PS on continuously, whether I'm local or remote. No observed ill effects. When the amp is off, the PS is silent. I haven't measured its current drain in that condition but I expect it is minimal. I have a remote relay box that I could use to key a larger relay in the 230V AC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello Lou thanks very much for the information! 73, Jorge El dom, 14 ago 2022 a las 11:13, Lou Laderman () escribió: > Here’s a thread from the Flex Community regarding remote relay setups to > control power to 220v amps with some good ideas. > > >

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread Lou Laderman via Elecraft
Here’s a thread from the Flex Community regarding remote relay setups to control power to 220v amps with some good ideas. https://community.flexradio.com/discussion/8023204/remote-220-240vac-switch#latest I built a remote 220v power switch using this relay from Amazon

[Elecraft] KPA1500 power supply (remote)

2022-08-14 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello! when you use the KPA1500 remotely, the power is always on. With which it could spend several years on continuously. Could this be harmful to the power supply? Is it thought and designed to withstand this? Is there a way to turn the power on and off remotely? thanks! -- 73, Jorge

[Elecraft] Elecraft] Power reduced

2022-04-22 Thread Arthur Nienhouse
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Switch

2022-03-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dwayne, I believe Elecraft has replacement switches. You can try reversing the switch, only one side is used - remove it and turn it around. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/13/2022 11:25 AM, Dwayne Barbee via Elecraft wrote: The power switch for my KX1 has stopped working, does anyone know

[Elecraft] KX1 Power Switch

2022-03-13 Thread Dwayne Barbee via Elecraft
The power switch for my KX1 has stopped working, does anyone know of a reputable source for a replacement? Thanks! Dwayne KE4RVT Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2022-01-02 Thread Ed Cole
There are situations when running a driver at it full output is desirable. Or when running at very low output is not as stable. Two examples: I have a 6-dB 30w attenuator on the input of my 2m 1500w LDMOS Amp (MRF1K50H) which ensures that my 25w transverter will not overdrive the amp. The

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2022-01-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/1/2022 1:12 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I follow the SPE Expert list and I never understood their reasoning for running 100 watt radios at full power and relying on ALC to control the output. I never use ALC. I thought relying it can cause splatter. YES! I I am a big fan of the TelePost

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2022-01-01 Thread jerry
On 2022-01-01 13:12, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I follow the SPE Expert list and I never understood their reasoning for running 100 watt radios at full power and relying on ALC to control the output. I never use ALC. *** I am building a 600W LDMOS linear. An input of 5-8 watts gives full output.

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2022-01-01 Thread john
I follow the SPE Expert list and I never understood their reasoning for running 100 watt radios at full power and relying on ALC to control the output. I never use ALC. I thought relying it can cause splatter. There are a lot of failed LDMOS posts on the SPE list. If the SPE amp watt meter is

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-31 Thread Dave
I think in today’s technology, any amp recommending to run the radio at full power and expecting the ALC to protect the amp is a joke. It may not be fast enough to protect the LDMOS device. SPE America has a history of pointing the finger at the radio having a power overshoot as the cause of

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-31 Thread Bill Frantz
After reading all the comments on this thread, I think that Skip, K6DWG and Bob, K4TAX have the best theory of what happened. Careful reading of the SPE 1.3K manual indicates that the power output of the amp is sampled between the amp and the internal tuner and that the recommended tune power

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/31/2021 2:35 PM, Al Lorona wrote: I think N7WS has shown that when that window transmission line gets wet, its loss goes way up. Yes. Excellent lab-quality experimental work done many years ago. It's in one of the ARRL Compendiums of technical papers. He set up runs, got them wet, and

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-31 Thread Al Lorona
Happy New Year, I think N7WS has shown that when that window transmission line gets wet, its loss goes way up. So some of the change you are seeing in rain/snow conditions could be due to this higher loss. Al  W6LX/4 > > My experience with antenna's changing due to moisture is with my >

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-28 Thread Edward Mccann
feedline/ > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -Original Message- > From: Bob McGraw [mailto:rmcg...@benlomand.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:27 PM > To: l...@lnainc.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten > > Yes, I agree that tr

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-28 Thread Lyn Norstad
://www.trueladderline.com/w7fg-design-600-ohm-open-wire-feedline/ 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Bob McGraw [mailto:rmcg...@benlomand.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:27 PM To: l...@lnainc.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten Yes, I agree

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-28 Thread Bob McGraw
cGraw Sent: Monday, December 27, 2021 7:36 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten I doubt that ice on the antenna would have any effect in terms of increased loss. However, I would expect the resonant frequency to change and thus the need to adjust the

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-28 Thread Lyn Norstad
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten I doubt that ice on the antenna would have any effect in terms of increased loss. However, I would expect the resonant frequency to change and thus the need to adjust the tuner. If it is and ATU / automated tuner

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-28 Thread john
The ice should not have a significant effect on your signal strength. With a KW, everyone should hear you fine unless there is a water/ice issue with your center insulator. Ice is a poor dielectric, it will make your dipole wire electrically longer so a tuner will likely be needed to make your

[Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-27 Thread Bob McGraw
...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 21 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:10:25 -0800 From: Fred Jensen To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten Message-ID:<8c012d97-f62d-b342-4ec3-20db2e8f5...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I doubt that pogonip o

Re: [Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-27 Thread Fred Jensen
I doubt that pogonip or even solid ice on your antenna would have major effects [well, except for weight].  Ice forming from water directly from the sky is a pretty good insulator.  We had a very large Log-Periodic on the roof of the hangar at my first USAF assignment in the remote northern

[Elecraft] Output power being eaten

2021-12-27 Thread Bill Frantz
I didn't have a good night in the K1USN Slow Speed Test. I started more-or-less on time and tried to answer CQs. None of the stations I tried could hear me. My SPE 1.3K amp said I was putting out about a kilowatt, although the antenna tuning on my normally low SWR 40M dipole needed to be

Re: [Elecraft] Cheap power supply for KBT2

2021-11-25 Thread Dave
: Jim Brown To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Cheap power supply for KBT2 Message-ID: <89d0d3d2-6e46-4327-c5c3-555460f25...@audiosystemsgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 11/24/2021 6:29 AM, Chris wrote: I use this, and it

[Elecraft] Cheap power supply for KBT2

2021-11-25 Thread Bob McGraw
:06 -0800 From: Jim Brown To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Cheap power supply for KBT2 Message-ID: <89d0d3d2-6e46-4327-c5c3-555460f25...@audiosystemsgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 11/24/2021 6:29 AM, Chris wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/23/2021 6:34 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Yes, there are many reasons to match as well as possible Elecraft engineer K6XX has shown that it is critical to match antennas to the output devices to minimize IMD (clicks, splatter). In tube amps, this is done by a variable pi or pi-L network; with

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-23 Thread Lyn Norstad
PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level "Would you care to share your KPA500 power measurements at each of those drive levels (and test mode used)?" If you receive this data set be sure you understand that dissipation, heating, and efficiency will b

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-22 Thread Bob McGraw
The answer to Lyn's question was via a private response with attached EXCEL file.   That file is available except it "won't take" here on the discussion group. 73 Bob, K4TAX Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:14:47 -0500 From: "Lyn Norstad" To: "'Bob McGraw'", S

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-22 Thread Andy Durbin
"Would you care to share your KPA500 power measurements at each of those drive levels (and test mode used)?" If you receive this data set be sure you understand that dissipation, heating, and efficiency will be strongly dependent on the complex impedance of the load. I have previously shared

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-22 Thread Lyn Norstad
: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:22 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level I've said this for years, even with tube type amplifiers. One exception, to which I'm aware, is the Johnson Thunderbolt which uses a variable L along with variable C for the input components

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-22 Thread Bob McGraw
And how did you come to the conclusion of no overshoot? 73 Bob, K4TAX On 9/21/2021 8:48 AM, Salvatore ["Ted"] K2QMF wrote: I have a Yeasu FTdx5000 and an FTdx101MP. Both are driving Elecraft KPA1500's. The driver power is reduced to about 35 Watts on both!  I have no over shoot with either

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Wes
Buried in this thread: https://groups.io/g/TS-890/topic/kenwood_ts_890s_audio_chain/74266007?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C0=1 is this: Dear Sir, Please accept our excuses for keeping you waiting. As I mentioned last time due to the COVID-19 our staff in Japan is till the end of this month

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/21/2021 6:48 AM, Salvatore ["Ted"] K2QMF wrote: have a Yeasu FTdx5000 and an FTdx101MP. Have you looked at splatter for these rigs? I don't know about these models specifically, but other recent vintage Yaesu rigs have had awful splatter, as heard/measured on my K3/P3/SVGA. Any time I

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Bob McGraw
jerry To: Bob McGraw Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level Message-ID:<6f2e7001d988f150b7f0f39517b3d...@tr2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2021-09-19 19:47, Bob McGraw wrote: > Based on personal experience and observations w

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Salvatore ["Ted"] K2QMF
the overshoot issue.  The issue can be resolved. ICOM, Kenwood, Yaesu.are you listening? 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 8 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:21:15 -0700 From: jerry To: Bob McGraw Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level Message-ID

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Bob McGraw
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:21:15 -0700 From: jerry To: Bob McGraw Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level Message-ID:<6f2e7001d988f150b7f0f39517b3d...@tr2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2021-09-19 19:47, Bob McGraw wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/21/2021 6:26 AM, Bob McGraw wrote: Kenwood, ICOM, and Yaesu...are you listening? Of course not. Elecraft (and in the old days, Ten Tec) are/were unique in that regard. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Salvatore ["Ted"] K2QMF
I have a Yeasu FTdx5000 and an FTdx101MP. Both are driving Elecraft KPA1500's. The driver power is reduced to about 35 Watts on both!  I have no over shoot with either rig! Do not use ALC!!  Lower the drive power. No issues!  Works Great... K2QMF  On 9/21/2021 9:38:49 AM, jerry wrote: On

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread jerry
On 2021-09-21 06:26, Bob McGraw wrote: Not really, 6 dB of attenuation rated at 100 watts.  The challenge is switching it out on receive. *** Not so bad if you build it INTO the linear - so it would be inside the existing relays. But yeah - it's a shame to waste all that power and heat the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-21 Thread Bob McGraw
Not really, 6 dB of attenuation rated at 100 watts.  The challenge is switching it out on receive. But the real challenge is to buy a transceiver that doesn't overshoot at reduced power.  Neither my K3S, my Tentec Eagle, nor my Omni VII have the issue.    Other companies have or need to

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-20 Thread jerry
On 2021-09-19 19:47, Bob McGraw wrote: Based on personal experience and observations with another ham radio brand and company, it is most often the case that power overshoot is likely to occur when the transceiver is operated at reduced power.  Namely to drive a power amplifier.   *** So I

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-19 Thread Bob McGraw
, lousy transmitter. 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 14 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 19:15:51 -0700 From: Jim Brown To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level Message-ID: <43ba24ec-6da1-8c44-e0fc-ed878090a...@audiosystemsgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-19 Thread Bob McGraw
, dissipation, and gain on all bands, 160M - 6M. 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:26:44 -0400 From: Steve Hall<99sun...@gmail.com> To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Subject: KPA1500 Power Level Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quo

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-19 Thread K9ZTV
Jerry ... In either of the failures, were you controlling transceiver output through ALC or, as it sounds, manually? 73, Kent K9ZTV > On Sep 18, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Jerry Kirshenbaum wrote: > > re: it'd pay to review the SPE > > In May 2021 I bought a SPE 1.5K-FA 2nd generator new from

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-18 Thread Bill Frantz
My wife won $1000 off an Expert amplifier at Visalia maybe 5 years ago. I ended up getting a 1.3K because I had noticed many DXpeditions using it. Mine is still working well, knock on wood. I run in on 120V at theMedium power setting. I get 700-800 watts out. I'm always thinking of selling it

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-18 Thread Mark Goldberg
I believe the SPE 1.5K-FA uses one 1800W Mosfet and the KPA1500 uses two 1400W Mosfets. In general, the KPA500 and KPA1500 are more robust than most of the competitors. I've made mistakes a few times with my KPA500 and it is still ticking. Everyone I've talked to with an ALS-600 has blown the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-18 Thread Michael Walker
Does Expert publish a list of radios they will not warranty their amp on? Mike va3mw > On Sep 18, 2021, at 10:16 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > For a long time, W8JI, who has designed ham power amps, has observed that > some JA rigs have this problem. And for a long time, the mfrs have failed to

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-18 Thread Jim Brown
For a long time, W8JI, who has designed ham power amps, has observed that some JA rigs have this problem. And for a long time, the mfrs have failed to fix them. Just like they have taken decades to fix clicks, and at least one (Yaesu) has been building rigs with lots of splatter on SSB. 73,

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-18 Thread Jerry Kirshenbaum
re: it'd pay to review the SPE In May 2021 I bought a SPE 1.5K-FA 2nd generator new from the distributor in Texas. I’ve been using a SunSDR2 DX 100W transceiver while I wait to receive my K4D. The 1st time the finals blew may have been operator error. Subsequently, I discovered that the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-15 Thread Larry (K8UT)
/ Free. Easy install. No registration. Use it once (or more) and throw it away. -larry (K8UT) -- Original Message -- From: j...@kk9a.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2021-09-14 21:35:15 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level There is some information on KPA1500 efficiency

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/14/2021 7:13 PM, Peter Hall wrote: it'd pay to review the SPE and other offerings both in technical and support terms. In my limited contact with SPE amps, I'd say the Elecraft amps are substantially cleaner. One of our neighbors was getting reports of a dirty signal on 6M, so one of

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread Peter Hall
), the overall experience was very average. 73, Peter (VK6HP). -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Barry Simpson Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 6:15 AM To: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level I have had a quick look

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread john
There is some information on KPA1500 efficiency in the archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2018-August/259502.html John KK9A Barry Simpson vk2bj wrote: I have had a quick look through the KPA1500 manual and could not find any reference to running the amplifier at a lower power

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Mailing List Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level I have had a quick look through the KPA1500 manual and could not find any reference to running the amplifier at a lower power level than the rated 1,500w. Can anyone comment on the implications (eg temperature, efficiency and IMD) of running

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread Bill Weaver
I use mine on 30M @ 200W. Efficiency isn’t too as good, but that is a characteristic of a SS amp. 73, Bill WE5P Comfortably Numb > On Sep 14, 2021, at 18:16, Barry Simpson wrote: > > I have had a quick look through the KPA1500 manual and could not find any > reference to running the

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Level

2021-09-14 Thread Barry Simpson
I have had a quick look through the KPA1500 manual and could not find any reference to running the amplifier at a lower power level than the rated 1,500w. Can anyone comment on the implications (eg temperature, efficiency and IMD) of running a KPA1500 at say 500w by simply reducing the drive

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Power Level

2021-08-17 Thread Aaron K5ATG
After posting the question I found this on page 102 of the manual: RTTY/Data Operation Since some RTTY/Data mode duty cycles approach 100%, you should reduce power to about 5 watts or avoid transmitting at 10 watts for longer than 1-2 minutes at a time. (Power levels above 10 watts are not

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