[Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Kjeld Holm
Dear all,

I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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[Elecraft] P3 Minor Software Bug?

2010-12-17 Thread Geoffrey Downs
The P3 frequency display is easily confused by use of RIT. Alan said fixing
it was on the list and I'm just wondering if it's near the top. He posted a
workaround on Nov 10 - using CENTER - but I'm finding I have to use it quite
a lot. It would be much more convenient not to have to :-)

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread David Pratt
Wear cotton clothing rather than nylon or highly static material; avoid
walking around on static-prone carpets.  Wrap a length of bare copper
wire around your wrist and solder a 2 megohm resistor to it. Connect
that to a nearby ground connection.  Just ensure that the K3 is always
at the same potential as yourself by touching its frame regularly.

You should be okay at that.

73 de David G4DMP

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I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Kjeld,
I used a table away from electrical appliances and covered it with tin
or aluminum foil.   I had an antistatic wrist strap which I connected to
this large piece of foil and worked in this manner.   Ideally you would
connect the foil to a ground through a 1 MegOhm resistor.   Note I did not
power the K3 or any test equipment up while working atop this foil otherwise
one would possibly cause a short or worse electrocute oneself.   Generally
the larger the area of conductor the less the difficulty with ESD, at
component level the risk of ESD damage is greatest, at board level it is
considerably reduced and at assembly level it is further reduced.

You do the above at your own risk but it worked for me.   Wear cotton
avoid synthetic clothing and stay away from rugs or carpets.   Safety first
and I suppose this means we should both purchase an anti-static mat.

 Good luck and please thinks safety first.

73 Doug EI2CN

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

Dear all,

I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
David Pratt wrote:
In a recent message, Kjeld Holm k...@kh-translation.dk writes
I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

Wear cotton clothing rather than nylon or highly static material; avoid
walking around on static-prone carpets.  Wrap a length of bare copper
wire around your wrist and solder a 2 megohm resistor to it.

Well, maybe do the soldering first...

The resistor can be 1 megohm or anything else in that region. It purpose 
is to limit any ESD current surge, and also to limit any accidental 
shock current in your body. For both of those reasons, the resistor 
should be at least 250V rated, and the wrist band must be insulated from 
any accidental contact (except to yourself).

Connect
that to a nearby ground connection.  Just ensure that the K3 is always
at the same potential as yourself by touching its frame regularly.


NO - that is completely the wrong way around!  A ground connection to 
the Mother Planet will NOT ensure ESD protection.  If done without 
proper understanding, it is more likely to *increase* the risks to both 
the equipment and yourself.

The whole purpose of ESD protection is to minimize all voltage 
differences and current surges between your body and the electronic 
components, so connect your home-made wrist strap directly to the K3.

Since you do not have a proper ESD mat, place the K3 and KRX3 on a sheet 
of aluminium foil. Before opening the anti-static bag containing the 
KRX3, leave the bag on the foil for a short time to allow any static 
potentials to equalize.

You will then be working with a reasonable level of ESD protection. As 
it isn't necessary to connect any other mains-powered equipment or use a 
soldering iron while installing K3 option boards, grounding of the K3 
and the sheet of foil is purely optional.




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73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread David Cutter
I also put *everything* on a metal tea tray which has the Mohm resistor to 
earth.  My wrist strap connects to the tea tray.  Equi-potential is the 
secret.  Put the unwrapped packets on the tray with the K3 and unwrap them 
onto the tray.

David
G3UNA


 Wear cotton clothing rather than nylon or highly static material; avoid
 walking around on static-prone carpets.  Wrap a length of bare copper
 wire around your wrist and solder a 2 megohm resistor to it. Connect
 that to a nearby ground connection.  Just ensure that the K3 is always
 at the same potential as yourself by touching its frame regularly.

 You should be okay at that.

 73 de David G4DMP

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I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread John Ragle
Hello, Kjeld...

 I have done lots of work with electrostatic-sensitive components 
for a number of years, and have never had anything wrt ESD other than a 
wrist-strap (and its IMPORTANT series resistor). I rarely use the 
wrist-strap, but instead try to use common sense wrt grounding... I use 
a grounded soldering station, which in your case of the K3+subreceiver 
is irrelevant, and am careful to discharge myself on one or more 
grounded devices AFTER seating myself to work on the electronics. I 
habitually to wear cotton or wool clothing, not plastic (synthetic) cloth.

 Even if the devices on which you ground yourself are not 
physically grounded, if they are large enough their capacitance will 
accept enough charge to equalize potential differences in the 
surroundings and render you non-dangerous wrt ESD. (After all, a 
ground is really a connection to a rather large conducting sphere 
called the earth.) In the USA most devices such as computers, some 
lamps, etc. have a 3rd wire connection to ground and make good discharge 
devices.

 One simply wants to minimize the potential difference between you, 
your work object, your soldering iron, and your coffee cup. Great 
anxiety is not necessary.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 12/17/2010 4:18 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote:
 Dear all,

 I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
 weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
 do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

 OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] kpa 500

2010-12-17 Thread Jon K Hellan
On 12/17/2010 01:25 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 There is still an FCC limit of 15 db.  Turning that around, the
 smallest legal amount of drive to put out 500 watts would be 15.8
 watts.



.. in the United States.


73
Jon LA4RT

 73, Guy.

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:11 PM, William H. Droeger, Jr.
 k...@comcast.net  wrote:
 Has anybody heard how much power out the k3/10  will drive the kpa500
 amp to?  As mostly a qrper it might be nice to have a lil juice once
 in a while.  I can get 12w max out of my k3/10 and was hoping since
 the kpa500 is a solid state amp, I might get 400-500 watts out of it
 with 12 watts of drive. Thanks-Skip KT9T
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[Elecraft] Using the K3 down to 461-KHz

2010-12-17 Thread Edward R. Cole
I am licensed under the ARRL 600m Experimental Group which operates 
495-510 KHz.  The warc recommendations for 461-469, 471-478 KHz are 
below the current min. freq. for the K3, 480-KHz.  Will the K3 
operate down there with a firmware change or will it take hardware 
mods?  If the allocation is approved our experimental license may be 
modified for operating (or cancelled since ham licenses will be approved).

One of the deciding factors for buying my K3/10 was the ability to 
operate on MW bands (in TEST mode).  If the K3 cannot move down there 
I will be forced to build a special transverter for the purpose.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] wading pool

2010-12-17 Thread tony rowland
to all those who helped this wading pool type with the info on the k-3 thank 
you.  will probly order one for xmas

s/tony rowland
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Kjeld,

Go to the store and purchase a spray can of Static Guard - or by 
whatever name it is in your country.  It is the product that the ladies 
would use to keep their static charged garments from clinging.
Spray that on your clothing, chair and work area.
The improvised wrist strap that others have suggested is also a good 
idea - be certain to add the resistor for your safety.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/17/2010 4:18 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote:
 Dear all,

 I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
 weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
 do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

 OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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[Elecraft] Elecraft] Using the K3 down to 461-KHz

2010-12-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Hi Ed,

I am very interested in your 600m experiment especially how to use K3 to set up 
+ possible antenna alternatives.

If you have read my recent posts in this reflector, you will know that I am 
drawing expertise from this group about 600m operation.  In the recent Asia 
Pacific Telecommunity working group regarding Agenda Item 1.23 WRC2012, it has 
been seriously discussed among delegates from Asia Pacific countries in the 
national level.

 cheers, 


Johnny VR2XMC 





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主題: [Elecraft] Using the K3 down to 461-KHz

I am licensed under the ARRL 600m Experimental Group which operates 
495-510 KHz.  The warc recommendations for 461-469, 471-478 KHz are 
below the current min. freq. for the K3, 480-KHz.  Will the K3 
operate down there with a firmware change or will it take hardware 
mods?  If the allocation is approved our experimental license may be 
modified for operating (or cancelled since ham licenses will be approved).

One of the deciding factors for buying my K3/10 was the ability to 
operate on MW bands (in TEST mode).  If the K3 cannot move down there 
I will be forced to build a special transverter for the purpose.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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EME: 144-1.4kw, 432-100w*, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Tony Estep
Nobody has mentioned going barefoot, but doing so removes a major source of
static buildup.

Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] Data A filter questions (solved)

2010-12-17 Thread Wes Stewart
Thanks for the note, Joe.

You got me on the oversight of the firmware release note, that's sort of 
ancient history.  However, it is also in the latest manual rev.  Unfortunately, 
my desktop icon pointed to Rev D6, not the latest D9, so when I checked the 
manual, I found nothing.

Nevertheless, I am now kicking myself, not for the oversight, (well a little) 
but for not having made a little video of this to show that even after 
resetting the PB CTRL Shift=.05, Lo/Hi still failed to work in Data A although 
it did, as it should, in CW.

Unfortunately, (from a vindication standpoint anyway) after an overnight power 
down, this morning it is behaving normally.

re: Your comment about the default filter, the normalized filter is 400 Hz 
but the default filter is whatever was selected the last time you were on 
that mode.

I use M1-M4 for CW, SSB, Data A and AFSK A, respectively.  Regardless of the 
filter setup when a memory was stored, when any data mode is recalled, you get 
the last filter configuration used in a digital mode.  The manual is not very 
useful here, declaring that filter presets are stored, which is kind of 
ambiguous. 

So, the operational problem is solved, my bewilderment is not.

Wes  N7WS 

--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
 Wes,
 
  Here is a clue for the guys I hope start looking into
 this. I cannot
   toggle filter modes in CW either *if PB CTRL is set
 to .01, but can
   toggle if PB CTRL is set to .05.*
 
 That is correct operation.  If PB CTRL = .01, HI/LO is
 disabled.  You
 will find that information in the firmware release notes
 when the 10 Hz
 step was first released (MCU 3.25/DSP 2.21).
 
    Applies to CW and DATA only; LOCUT/HICUT
 cannot be used when 10 HZ
     shift steps are in effect; Width steps remain
 50 Hz in all cases
 
 As to your 400 Hz filter, that is the default in all data
 modes.  The
 width can be changed easily by using the Width knob or
 pressing XFIL
 to select the 2800 Hz roofing filter ...  I program
 the PSK start-up
 macro in DXLab Suite/WinWarbler to set the bandwidth to
 2800 Hz when
 ever the mode is set to PSK (or the K3 is set to DATA A).
 
 73,
 
     ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 12/16/2010 10:58 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
  Don,
 
  Yes, in SSB I can toggle between Shift/Width to
 Lo/Hi.
 
  In data modes I cannot.  I never paid attention
 to AFSK A before since I use 915 Hz for Mark and I never
 found it necessary to change the default shift of 1 KHz or
 to toggle to Lo/Hi.
 
  Here is a clue for the guys I hope start looking into
 this.  I cannot toggle filter modes in CW either *if PB
 CTRL is set to .01, but can toggle if PB CTRL is set to
 .05.*
 
  Unfortunately, this isn't a fix for the data modes.
 
  Wes  N7WS
 
  --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Don Wilhelmw3...@embarqmail.com 
 wrote:
 
     Wes,
 
  Can you toggle between HI/LO and SHIFT/WIDTH when
 in SSB
  mode?
  I can shift between the two in all data modes
 except FSK D
  where they
  stay in SHIFT/WIDTH.
 
  Just wondering if your K3 is broken.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 12/16/2010 3:29 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
  Don, and I'll reply to Monty here too,
 
  There is no question that I'm in Data A and my
 HI and
  LO controls do not function.  I seldom use
 PSK, I
  prefer RTTY, but I'm sure that this didn't happen
 in the
  past.  Just for giggles I rolled back my
 firmware to
  4.0 sumptin' and I had the same issue.
 
  I generally leave the VFO set for example to
 14.070
  and click tune on the waterfall, but use HI and LO
 cut to
  select the signal of interest.  As it stands
 the SHIFT
  range is so limited that I can't isolate lower
 tones.
 
  Wes
 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] A Mini Module I would love to see (AC0LP)

2010-12-17 Thread Jobst Vandrey
A small board to insert 12 volts DC on the Coax at the shack and a similar 
board to pick it up at the antenna end to run relays or power remote tuners 
without impacting the RF carried on the coax.  I really do not want to run a 
second set of cables just for this purpose.  It would be great if it was 
configured with some more or less standard DPDT relay positions (optional of 
course) that could be populated as needed by the user to meet various switching 
needs.

MFJ does offer such a beast (4116 and 4117 without the relays) - but I admit to 
some significant uncertainty in the quality of the design and the of the 
components used in the manufacturing.

Jobst Vandrey
AC0LP


  
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[Elecraft] W7RN update, request for band memory to retain diversity setting

2010-12-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Dick: I had to unsubscribe to the K3 discussion group. Even the digest
version was overwhelming. Can you post this on my behalf:

 

By the way, the Band Map error on the south station was from my cockpit
error in calibrating the TXO in the K3's properly. Problem now resolved.

 

First half contest season report from W7RN

 

The four K3's performed flawlessly in M/2 and SO2R contests. I have replaced
the two MicroHAM MK2R's with their new u2R SO2R boxes. They are much simpler
and much more user friendly in a multiop environment and all of the nagging
compatibility and stability issues with Elecraft-MicroHam-WinTest-WriteLog
have disappeared.

 

Our final request for 2010 for the Elecraft Team: Is there a software
upgrade in the works for the radio to remember the sub-receiver and
diversity settings when switching from band to band? That would remove the
final roadblock from the operator having to use ONLY the band switch to
change bands at our station (the sub-receiver stays on from band to band
while the diversity goes off).

 

Our final request to the logging program gurus is for each operator to be
able to select their own profile of keyboard key-mapping functions when they
log-on to operate. This is the time of year for wish lists, ne pas? 

 

Tom Taormina, K5RC

The Comstock Memorial Station, W7RN

Virginia City NV

http://k5rc.cc

 

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[Elecraft] Fw: Reduced gain/efficiency in SSB

2010-12-17 Thread Jack West

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reduced gain/efficiency in SSB


 Hi,
 
 I run mic gain in high, front panel, and gain set at max 60 setting.
 Compression is 18.  Get good audio reports. Mic is Astatic D-104
 I bought in 1955 (as a kid) for $1.00 (half of my weekly allowance)
 It was on a consignment shelf at a radio parts store. It looks good
 and is still going strong.
 
 73 de
 Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: br...@brianlinn.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reduced gain/efficiency in SSB
 
 
 
 
 Following up on mic gain required, I'd like to inquire as to the
 reasonableness of my settings. 
 
 Mic: Heil PR-781
 straight into the K3
 Mic Level: 55
 Mic Bias: High
 Compression: 18
 TX EQ: modest adjustment center, nothing wild
 Audio Reports: great audio
 
 Seems like a
 higher mic level than most run. It's the same for my Audio Technica
 headset. 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Brian KD0HII
 s/n 3672
 
 
 1. With Heil HC5, the needed MIC
 gain for same ALC deflection is now 25 
 instead of 17 

 
 
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[Elecraft] Icom failure to update USB

2010-12-17 Thread Dan Atchison
Not trying to start another thread here, but here is just ONE example of why 
Elecraft continues to use the RS-232 I/O.  Gee, Win7 has been out quite a 
while.  

This from the IC-7600 reflector:

Dan -- N3ND



1a. Re: Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART Bridge driver
Posted by: Cameron Platts cpla...@verizon.net camplatts
Date: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:52 am ((PST))

Hi John,

 

I should have identified that I am using Windows 7 x64 as the operating
system; officially ICOM has not released USB drivers for Windows 7 as of
this email. Hopefully the level issue will be addressed with the new
release. 

 

73es,  Cam 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As the KRX3 manual says (pg 5), avoid voltage differences between yourself
and the components. If you don't have an anti-static mat or wrist strap:

DO NOT use carpet on your work bench (a common practice before solid state).
Wood, Formica, etc., is fine. Metal is also okay for this, but not a good
practice for any bench on which you'll power up a rig. 

DO NOT use Styrofoam or other plastics to hold parts other than the pink
bags some parts are shipped in.

DO touch an unpainted metal ground often while working. (When without a pad
I touch a ground every time before picking up an electronic part or pcb - it
only takes a fraction of a second to do so.)

DO touch an unpainted metal part of the K3 itself after picking up a part
and before touching the part to the K3. (That equalizes any possible voltage
difference between you - and the part you're holding - and the K3 so the
charge won't flow through the part.) If you ground the metal case of the K3,
you can touch it before picking up each part to accomplish both objectives
at the same time. 

The Mains supply safety ground is a perfectly good ground to use to
discharge yourself. 

There's more background on page 5 of the KRX3 manual, but the above steps
will keep you and the parts safe without a dedicated ESD workstation. 

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

Dear all,

I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Vic K2VCO
I've mentioned this idea before but I like it so much I'll repeat it:

I attached a metal yardstick (meter stick) to the front of my workbench and 
connected it 
to ground through a 1 meg resistor. My arms naturally fall on it, and it is 
invaluable 
when building kits and cutting wire to length.

I have an aluminum muffin tin for holding parts which is also connected to 
ground via a 
resistor.

I use a wrist strap and mat too, but I suspect the ruler would be enough by 
itself.

On 12/17/2010 8:22 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 As the KRX3 manual says (pg 5), avoid voltage differences between yourself
 and the components. If you don't have an anti-static mat or wrist strap:

 DO NOT use carpet on your work bench (a common practice before solid state).
 Wood, Formica, etc., is fine. Metal is also okay for this, but not a good
 practice for any bench on which you'll power up a rig.

 DO NOT use Styrofoam or other plastics to hold parts other than the pink
 bags some parts are shipped in.

 DO touch an unpainted metal ground often while working. (When without a pad
 I touch a ground every time before picking up an electronic part or pcb - it
 only takes a fraction of a second to do so.)

 DO touch an unpainted metal part of the K3 itself after picking up a part
 and before touching the part to the K3. (That equalizes any possible voltage
 difference between you - and the part you're holding - and the K3 so the
 charge won't flow through the part.) If you ground the metal case of the K3,
 you can touch it before picking up each part to accomplish both objectives
 at the same time.

 The Mains supply safety ground is a perfectly good ground to use to
 discharge yourself.

 There's more background on page 5 of the KRX3 manual, but the above steps
 will keep you and the parts safe without a dedicated ESD workstation.

 Ron AC7AC



 -Original Message-

 Dear all,

 I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
 weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
 do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

 OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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[Elecraft] K3 to KRC2 problem

2010-12-17 Thread John K9UWA
My K3 has worked flawlessly up until now. Lately when you Grab a DX Spot or 
punch in
a band change on HamRadioDeluxe the KRC-2 fails to make the proper change of the
Antenna Selection. If you then push the Band Up or Band Down buttons on the K3 
radio
and back to the band desired Then the KRC-2 does go to the correct Antenna 
selection. 

It makes things a little difficult for me as I am presently 1200 miles away 
from the radio.
This weekend a friend will be there operating the station so its my chance for 
him to
look at a few things and maybe correct the problem.

Anyone have any good ideas of where or what to look at? 

John k9uwa
John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9...@arrl.net
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http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread David Gilbert


NO no no ... you don't want to connect yourself to ground.  You want to 
connect yourself to whatever semi-conducting surface you are working on 
(the one that the K3 and it's components are resting on).  Connecting 
yourself to ground merely increases the chance that there will be a 
potential between you and the rig.

I simply laid out a large enough amount of aluminum foil to hold 
everything, wrapped a bare wire around my arm just above my elbow, and 
used a clip lead to connect the bare wire to the aluminum foil.  I know 
everyone recommends a large value resistor be placed in series with the 
bare wire for safety reasons, but I did all this on a large wooden table 
several feet away from anything else and skin resistance here in dry 
Arizona is fairly high anyway.

Dave   AB7E



On 12/17/2010 2:34 AM, David Pratt wrote:
 Wear cotton clothing rather than nylon or highly static material; avoid
 walking around on static-prone carpets.  Wrap a length of bare copper
 wire around your wrist and solder a 2 megohm resistor to it. Connect
 that to a nearby ground connection.  Just ensure that the K3 is always
 at the same potential as yourself by touching its frame regularly.

 You should be okay at that.

 73 de David G4DMP

 In a recent message, Kjeld Holmk...@kh-translation.dk  writes
 I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
 weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
 do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?
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[Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Phil Townsend
I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my shack/workbench.
The parents and sister were all sleeping...
Then it happened...
A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best friend)
Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one I had 
the sweets for.)
They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried to 
turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
Thereby running into Sis and parents.
The solder was still stuck and still hot.
By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for one day 
so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.

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[Elecraft] AFSK

2010-12-17 Thread Larry K1UO

I'm unable to transmit an AFSK signal in DATA mode, although I can transmit
via the same LINE IN
in DATA A mode.  The line output from my SignaLink USB soundcard does have
the audio signal on it and is connected to the Line In mono jack on the K3. 
For MIC SEL in configuration, I have Line In selected.  DATA MD is set to
AFSK A and shows 45 bps.  PITCH is set to 915-170.  Using MMTTY software and
the latest K3 firmware the K3 goes into transmit mode (audio signal is
present on cable feeding K3's Line In) but no modulation.  What am I
missing??

I should mention this was working as early as 3 weeks ago and I have NO idea
what has changed.Just reloaded the K3 firmware and checked all MTTY
option parameters but all look good and as I mentioned..Data A xmits the
RTTY signals but not AFSK.

Larry  K1UO


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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Jim Wiley
Eric -

Please end this thread immediately!  I could not survive another laugh 
attack like that one. 


- Jim, KL7CC



Phil Townsend wrote:
 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my 
 shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best 
 friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one I 
 had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried to 
 turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for one 
 day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.

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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Tony Estep
Roflmao.

See what I mean? Barefoot ok, naked not ok.

Tony KT0NY
On Dec 17, 2010 11:48 AM, Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com wrote:
 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one
I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad.
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried
to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.

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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Rick Dettinger
This is exactly the same advise given by a doctor on a straight razor  
forum about shaving!  He mentioned something about Darwin and genomes.

73,
Rick Dettinger   K7MW


 Roflmao.

 See what I mean? Barefoot ok, naked not ok.


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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread JAMES ROGERS
That tops the email I got about the guy buying his wife a stun gun  
which he then tried upon himself Phil.

73s Jim, W4ATK
On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Phil Townsend wrote:

 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my shack/ 
 workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new  
 best friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend.  
 (The one I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad.
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she  
 tried to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation  
 for one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning  
 event.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread George A. Thornton
Proper electrostatic mats are cheap and readily available.  A local
electronics shop in Seattle sells 3x4 foot sheets of the material for
about $30, and they tend to charge higher prices since they are the only
local source for electronic components.

Also, Radio Shack sells a folding plastic model complete with wrist
strap, resistor and clip.  Although some on the reflector question
whether the Radio Shack model is sufficiently competent for the task, I
have had mine for many years and built a K2 and K3 on it with no
problems, and for some of it I was working over carpet.  

Why pay so much for a high quality radio and then scrimp on the anti
static mat?  

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:51 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

I've mentioned this idea before but I like it so much I'll repeat it:

I attached a metal yardstick (meter stick) to the front of my workbench
and connected it 
to ground through a 1 meg resistor. My arms naturally fall on it, and it
is invaluable 
when building kits and cutting wire to length.

I have an aluminum muffin tin for holding parts which is also connected
to ground via a 
resistor.

I use a wrist strap and mat too, but I suspect the ruler would be enough
by itself.

On 12/17/2010 8:22 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 As the KRX3 manual says (pg 5), avoid voltage differences between
yourself
 and the components. If you don't have an anti-static mat or wrist
strap:

 DO NOT use carpet on your work bench (a common practice before solid
state).
 Wood, Formica, etc., is fine. Metal is also okay for this, but not a
good
 practice for any bench on which you'll power up a rig.

 DO NOT use Styrofoam or other plastics to hold parts other than the
pink
 bags some parts are shipped in.

 DO touch an unpainted metal ground often while working. (When without
a pad
 I touch a ground every time before picking up an electronic part or
pcb - it
 only takes a fraction of a second to do so.)

 DO touch an unpainted metal part of the K3 itself after picking up a
part
 and before touching the part to the K3. (That equalizes any possible
voltage
 difference between you - and the part you're holding - and the K3 so
the
 charge won't flow through the part.) If you ground the metal case of
the K3,
 you can touch it before picking up each part to accomplish both
objectives
 at the same time.

 The Mains supply safety ground is a perfectly good ground to use to
 discharge yourself.

 There's more background on page 5 of the KRX3 manual, but the above
steps
 will keep you and the parts safe without a dedicated ESD workstation.

 Ron AC7AC



 -Original Message-

 Dear all,

 I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before
the
 weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the
parts? Or
 do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

 OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] AFSK

2010-12-17 Thread Wes Stewart
Is MMTTY set to transmit 915 Hz?

Wes  N7WS

--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net wrote:

 From: Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] AFSK
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 10:51 AM
 
 I'm unable to transmit an AFSK signal in DATA mode,
 although I can transmit
 via the same LINE IN
 in DATA A mode.  The line output from my SignaLink USB
 soundcard does have
 the audio signal on it and is connected to the Line In mono
 jack on the K3. 
 For MIC SEL in configuration, I have Line In
 selected.  DATA MD is set to
 AFSK A and shows 45 bps.  PITCH is set to
 915-170.  Using MMTTY software and
 the latest K3 firmware the K3 goes into transmit mode
 (audio signal is
 present on cable feeding K3's Line In) but no
 modulation.  What am I
 missing??
 
 I should mention this was working as early as 3 weeks ago
 and I have NO idea
 what has changed.    Just reloaded the K3
 firmware and checked all MTTY
 option parameters but all look good and as I
 mentioned..Data A xmits the
 RTTY signals but not AFSK.
 
 Larry  K1UO
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread David Pratt
Nobody disputes that OM, but read the original post.  He is wishing to
improvise until his ESD station arrives.

In a recent message, George A. Thornton
gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com writes
[snip]
Why pay so much for a high quality radio and then scrimp on the anti
static mat?
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Re: [Elecraft] AFSK

2010-12-17 Thread GREG FICHER
Wes is correct.  Please make sure you check:

1.  Baud rate on the K3 should be 45 (if that is what your software is
using)
2.  If you have the mark freq set to 915 Hz (pitch) on the K3 then your
soundcard software for RTTY must also be 915 Hz.

73
Greg
AB7R


On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net wrote:


 I'm unable to transmit an AFSK signal in DATA mode, although I can transmit
 via the same LINE IN
 in DATA A mode.  The line output from my SignaLink USB soundcard does have
 the audio signal on it and is connected to the Line In mono jack on the K3.
 For MIC SEL in configuration, I have Line In selected.  DATA MD is set to
 AFSK A and shows 45 bps.  PITCH is set to 915-170.  Using MMTTY software
 and
 the latest K3 firmware the K3 goes into transmit mode (audio signal is
 present on cable feeding K3's Line In) but no modulation.  What am I
 missing??

 I should mention this was working as early as 3 weeks ago and I have NO
 idea
 what has changed.Just reloaded the K3 firmware and checked all MTTY
 option parameters but all look good and as I mentioned..Data A xmits the
 RTTY signals but not AFSK.

 Larry  K1UO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread George A. Thornton
I stand corrected, thanks.  I have been pretty busy and did not take the
time to read all the way back.

-Original Message-
From: David Pratt [mailto:da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 11:50 AM
To: George A. Thornton
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

Nobody disputes that OM, but read the original post.  He is wishing to
improvise until his ESD station arrives.

In a recent message, George A. Thornton
gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com writes
[snip]
Why pay so much for a high quality radio and then scrimp on the anti
static mat?
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Ken Alexander
Hopefully, this lesson served as an advance warning about the hazards of frying 
bacon when similarly (un)attired!

73 - Ken, VE3HLS


--- On Fri, 12/17/10, Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com wrote:

 From: Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked
 To: 
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 12:48 PM
 I was 12 years old... I think it was
 a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to
 my shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy!
 (My new best friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover
 friend. (The one I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to
 squeal as she tried to turn around and run out of the door
 she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough
 humiliation for one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and
 that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early
 morning event.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] AFSK

2010-12-17 Thread L Emery
All fixed..  The only thing I did was reload my saved options file in MMTTY and 
all is well again!!   Somehow something got scrambled.

73
Larry  K1UO
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Re: [Elecraft] A Mini Module I would love to see (AC0LP)

2010-12-17 Thread Alan Bloom
Many years ago I built a remote antenna switch that allowed feeding up
to 4 antennas from the same feedline.  The feedline also was used for
the control signal, so no additional wires were needed.

It was a very simple circuit.  The switch box at the top of the tower
contained 5 coax connectors, two DPDT relays, two diodes, an RF choke
and a couple capacitors.  The control box in the shack contained 2 coax
connectors, a 60-Hz power transformer, a 4-position switch, an RF choke,
two diodes and a couple capacitors.

The schematic is at http://www.cds1.net/~n1al/ham/ant_switch.GIF

The electrolytic capacitors in the switch box may not be needed,
depending on the relays.  I believe I used 0.1 uF for the coupling and
bypass capacitors something like 22 or 47 uH for the RF chokes.  (A
smaller choke might be required for VHF.)  The transformer was chosen to
provide the correct relay voltage.  You may need to add resistors in
series with the relay coils to fine-tune the voltage.

Al N1AL


On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 07:48 -0800, Jobst Vandrey wrote:
 A small board to insert 12 volts DC on the Coax at the shack and a similar 
 board to pick it up at the antenna end to run relays or power remote tuners 
 without impacting the RF carried on the coax.  I really do not want to run a 
 second set of cables just for this purpose.  It would be great if it was 
 configured with some more or less standard DPDT relay positions (optional of 
 course) that could be populated as needed by the user to meet various 
 switching needs.
 
 MFJ does offer such a beast (4116 and 4117 without the relays) - but I admit 
 to some significant uncertainty in the quality of the design and the of the 
 components used in the manufacturing.
 
 Jobst Vandrey
 AC0LP
 
 
   
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Re: [Elecraft] A Mini Module I would love to see (AC0LP)

2010-12-17 Thread W2bpi1
See QST July 2004. Very simple way to do this.Geo/W2BPI
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[Elecraft] The wait is over!

2010-12-17 Thread Jim Sheldon
Just got an email from UPS with the tracking number.  My K3/P3 has been shipped 
and has a delivery date of the 23rd.  It WILL get here by Christmas -- Thanks 
Elecraft.

Jim - W0EB
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[Elecraft] Re: The wait is over!

2010-12-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Very good, Jim.  You will have new toys to play during Christmas.

 cheers, 


Johnny VR2XMC 





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主題: [Elecraft] The wait is over!

Just got an email from UPS with the tracking number.  My K3/P3 has been shipped 
and has a delivery date of the 23rd.  It WILL get here by Christmas -- Thanks 
Elecraft.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Barry

A classic, Phil!
I've had solder drop on my leg while wearing shorts, but that was the worst
for me.
BTW, my wife came in to see what I was laughing about and I had her read
your post.  She didn't get it - though Mr. Happy referred to a toy or
stuffed animal :.)
Barry W2UP



Phil Townsend wrote:
 
 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
 shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
 friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one
 I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried
 to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
 one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Phil Townsend
Toy yes!
Stuffed... God I hope not!

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Barry w...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 A classic, Phil!
 I've had solder drop on my leg while wearing shorts, but that was the worst
 for me.
 BTW, my wife came in to see what I was laughing about and I had her read
 your post.  She didn't get it - though Mr. Happy referred to a toy or
 stuffed animal :.)
 Barry W2UP
 
 
 
 Phil Townsend wrote:
 
 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
 shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
 friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one
 I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried
 to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
 one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Rex Lint
This same thing happened to me - I was about 35 at the time and I threw the
soldering iron across the room and it landed on the rya shag rug, burning an
outline of the iron into the wool rug.  

I've still got the scar - see, right here...

and the project was a HW-202...

  -Rex-
 
 K1HI
   Rex Lint
   Merrimack, NH
   WWW.QRZ.COM/db/k1hi 

 

-Original Message-

 Phil Townsend wrote:
 
 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
 shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
 friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one
 I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad. 
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried
 to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
 one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.
 
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[Elecraft] Use of DB9 Switch with K3?

2010-12-17 Thread Georgek5kg
At times, my microHam CW Keyer is connected to my K3 via the P3.   However, 
when I want to download new firmware for the K3, I have to disconnect  the 
CW Keyer from the RS232 port, and connect the DB9 from the computer's serial 
 port to the K3 via the P3.
 
Can I use a DB9 A/B switch to switch between the the two DB9 cables without 
 creating any problems?
 
73, George
 
George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL 
941-400-1960  cell
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Re: [Elecraft] Use of DB9 Switch with K3?

2010-12-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I use two, in series. 

Dick, K6KR


Dick

On Dec 17, 2010, at 19:45, georgek...@aol.com wrote:

 At times, my microHam CW Keyer is connected to my K3 via the P3.   However, 
 when I want to download new firmware for the K3, I have to disconnect  the 
 CW Keyer from the RS232 port, and connect the DB9 from the computer's serial 
 port to the K3 via the P3.
 
 Can I use a DB9 A/B switch to switch between the the two DB9 cables without 
 creating any problems?
 
 73, George
 
 George  Wagner, K5KG
 Sarasota, FL 
 941-400-1960  cell
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked

2010-12-17 Thread Steve Ellington
Mr. Happy likes the K3 No Solder Kit.


Steve
N4LQ
- Original Message - 
From: Rex Lint r...@lint.mv.com
To: 'Phil Townsend' phi...@mac.com; 'Barry' w...@comcast.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering Naked


This same thing happened to me - I was about 35 at the time and I threw the
soldering iron across the room and it landed on the rya shag rug, burning an
outline of the iron into the wool rug.

I've still got the scar - see, right here...

and the project was a HW-202...

  -Rex-

 K1HI
Rex Lint
  Merrimack, NH
   WWW.QRZ.COM/db/k1hi



-Original Message-

 Phil Townsend wrote:

 I was 12 years old... I think it was a Heathkit HW ???
 I woke up early ready to sling solder. My bed was next to my
 shack/workbench.
 The parents and sister were all sleeping...
 Then it happened...
 A large blob of solder slipped off the iron onto Mr Happy! (My new best
 friend)
 Shrieking and shouting... the blob stuck.
 The noise from my room awakened Sister and her sleepover friend. (The one
 I had the sweets for.)
 They stormed into my room followed by Mom and Dad.
 Sisters friend was first into the room causing her to squeal as she tried
 to turn around and run out of the door she just came into.
 Thereby running into Sis and parents.
 The solder was still stuck and still hot.
 By parents wanted to call the Doctor...but I had enough humiliation for
 one day so my Mom gave me the ointment and that was that.
 Durring breakfast no one said anything about the early morning event.

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Re: [Elecraft] Use of DB9 Switch with K3?

2010-12-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hi, George.

I use three DB9 ABCD switches in my SO2R station.  Let's call them Left,
Right and Development computer.  I write software for the K3 and I very
frequently need to send firmware from my development computer to one of my
two K3s.

Each of two K3s is connected to the common center connector of the
corresponding Left and Right DB9 ABCD switches.  The A input of the
Left and Right DB9 ABCD switches is connected to MK2R+ cables.  The B
input of the left and right DB9 ABCD switches goes to A and B of the
Development computer switch.  The center of the Development computer
switch goes thru a KUSB USB to Serial adapter to my development computer.  

To operate with the MK2R+, I switch both Left and Right DB9 switches to A.

To load firmware, I switch both Left and Right DB9 switches to B.  I
switch the Development computer DB9 switch to A to load the left K3 with
firmware, and B to load the right K3 with firmware.

I've had no difficulties with two of these boxes in series. I use a one
meter DB9 straight through jumper from Left and Right DB9 switches to the
back panel of my K3s.  I use another one meter jumper from the Left and
Right DB9 switches to the Development Computer DB9 switch.  I use a two
meter or sometimes two two-meter jumpers from the development computer to
the Development computer DB9 switch.

Whew!  

A picture would be easier, I think.

73 de Dick, K6KR
 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of georgek...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 7:45 PM
To: supp...@microham.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Use of DB9 Switch with K3?

At times, my microHam CW Keyer is connected to my K3 via the P3.   However, 
when I want to download new firmware for the K3, I have to disconnect  the 
CW Keyer from the RS232 port, and connect the DB9 from the computer's serial

 port to the K3 via the P3.
 
Can I use a DB9 A/B switch to switch between the the two DB9 cables without 
 creating any problems?
 
73, George
 
George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL 
941-400-1960  cell
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