On 9/12/2012 8:21 PM, Stan AE7UT wrote:
The quesiton is should I get a K3 now (hoping to beat the price increase) or
wait and buy the fully loaded version in a couple of months? How difficult
is it to keep adding modules on? I would be buying the kit form.
Not difficult at all. The only
Horrid electrical noise in hotels because of air conditioners. I stayed in
a hotel in Redmond, WA. I tried using my KS3 with a 28' wire extending out
from the window and a 16' counterpoise which was inside the hotel room. I
was not able to receive anything on any band. All I heard was massive
Use a coax-fed antenna as far away as possible, even on the roof. Add a
choke to reduce noise pick-up on the coax.
Your 'counterpoise' is part of the aerial and picks up from its environment
as it's bound to do.
73
David
G3UNA
Horrid electrical noise in hotels because of air conditioners. I
Ian,
I would stay away from the Elecraft T1 tuner. It is too small, the tuning
range is too large, its power consumption is way too low, the leds are too easy
to understand, it is too easy to use--DO NOT order the 817 cable that
automagically remembers band settings--and it is way too well
Hi,
is it possible to use the MH3 for my 'old' K2 too?
vy 73 de
Karl-Heinz, DK5LP / AK5LP
K2 #2583, KX3 #443
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On Sep 13, 2012, at 01:41 , Ian Kahn - Ham km4ik@gmail.com wrote:
All,
I am to the point of contemplating tuners to go with my FT-817 and
(probably) 20m half-wave OCF dipole antenna. Has anyone used the
Elecraft T1 QRP tuner? Can anyone speak intelligently to the (de)merits
of
The answer is to use Trakbox sw from IK7EKN (link below):
73, Ed - KL7UW
Subject: Re: [Moon-Net] Control of K3 from MAP65v2
From: PE1LWT pe1...@xs4all.nl
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:42:36 +0200
To: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
Hi Ed,
as Joe write, trakbox from IK7EZN will do the job for
If you are capable of building an adapter for the MH3 plug to the K2's 8
pin Foster connector than the answer is yes
I do not believe any pre-built adapters exist.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/13/2012 4:24 AM, List wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to use the MH3 for my 'old' K2 too?
vy 73 de
Karl-Heinz,
Hi,
As I slowly expand my knowledge in homebrewing, I've decided an XG3 should
be my next piece of test equipment (after a DMM and a Rigol DS1102E 'scope).
My main interest in the XG3 is for receiver alignment and RF tracing.
I'd like to know people's opinions and experiences with this
Hi Don,
thanks for answer.
To build an adapter is no problem.
73 de Karl-Heinz, DK5LP / AK5LP
Am 13.09.2012 um 14:08 schrieb Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com:
If you are capable of building an adapter for the MH3 plug to the K2's 8 pin
Foster connector than the answer is yes
I do not
Very interesting. I was operating at our local submarine for Museum Ships
Day, using my K2 in the field about 200 yards away from the sub from which
they were operating SSB on 20 meters. I tried to operate 20m CW but the
whooshing on the band anywhere in the CW segment was just too much. I
thought
Bob,
The XG3 is quite a capable signal generator. It can do a lot,
especially when used with the XG3 Utility program, and sounds like it
would be excellent for the purposes you have stated. It is quite stable
both frequency wise and output level wise.
Drawbacks of the XG3 as I see it is
Might be both.
matt
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:41:20 -0400, you wrote:
Very interesting. I was operating at our local submarine for Museum Ships
Day, using my K2 in the field about 200 yards away from the sub from which
they were operating SSB on 20 meters. I tried to operate 20m CW but the
Just about to head out to work here in LA area, decided to give a listen for
Swains Island on 40 meters. Booming in, so I gave a call and they came right
back, a little difficulty at first, until I realized I had my xmit power on my
K3 dialed down to two watts. Bumped up to 7 and no problem.
Well,
Mostly because Gary at Elecraft told me he monitors power output since the
ALC meter isn't driving right and that is what he recommends. That is
difficult in the field on batteries because the target power is variable
based on voltage. Also, the meter defaults to ALC when adjusting mic gain
Yes - good point, quite right. I made a mistake in my post indicating the
lines were on the I/Q output, they were on audio...apparetly due to AFX
DELAY being on.
Jim
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Subject: re: [Elecraft] Elecraft T1 Tuner
Ian :
I have had a T1 for a number of
Does anyone know how and when NaP3 adjusts frequency offset when connected
with the KX3?
I've found the waterfall and the KX3 VFO not to be in sync, but after
putting in and removing +-1500 offsets, they then match with all offsets
again indicating zero. I can't seem to issolate the pattern other
My experience with operating from hotels has also been very poor. The
structures are
Faraday shields, and they are full of noise sources. Sometimes there is no
balcony and
windows can't be opened. Take your KX3 to the beach (or the woods) and operate
from there!
On 9/12/2012 11:55 PM, John
If the hotel has a balcony, I have used a MFJ fiberglass extending pole in the
past which suspended a resonant fan dipole and an rfi filter in line and it
worked well. I tried one of those mini antenna verticals by Super Antenna and
it did not perform well from balcony. With a resonant dipole
I use a small electret mike form an old computer. Mic gain of 6 causes ALC
activity just below full scale. Reports indicated that COMP to the max (30)
produced punchy and undistorted signal. When listening on K3, varying mic
gain from 4 to 10 caused very little difference in speech quality.
IM
Or get a pick-up truck and operate from outside the hotel using a
screwdriver type antenna ;o)
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:33:09 -0700, Vic K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com
wrote:
My experience with operating from hotels has
NaP3 has a bug.
When started, the offset is bad. When offset is changed to something on the
last tab (say SSB) to something and then back to 0, the offset is correct.
This is not saved so needs to be repeated every launch of NaP3.
I can't remember whether touching offset in SSB also corrects
Hello Matt,
Interesting that the other stations whose phase noise pestered you, did not
sense the presence of the K3's strong signal as the result of reciprocal
mixing in their receivers. Can you recall the model or models of
transceiver the others were using?
73,
Geoff
LX2AO
On September
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:
NaP3 has a bug.
When started, the offset is bad. When offset is changed to something on
the
last tab (say SSB) to something and then back to 0, the offset is
correct.
=
I have set my offset to 1. This seems to
The issue I was having with the BAND CHANGE parameter has been resolved
with KPA500 test load V1.16.
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Hi Jack... Thanks for the reply.
Yes, RADIO has been set to BCD since I put the AMP online today. The
band changes just fine under the control of the FT-950, so the amp is
getting
Good morning,
I'm interested in operating a K2 with an installed Z1000B buffer amp.
along with LP-Pan 2, SDR software, etc.
Primary mode of interest -- CW.
Anybody currently using this pan set up?
Thanks,
Paul N1DPW
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I also had this problem recently: I was using my K3 in the vicinity
of several other operators who were using an IC-706MkIIG, an FT-857D,
and an IC-7000. All of these other radios produced horrible in-band
phase noise. When I asked them about it, they were completely unaware
that I was on the
I have pretty much given up my LP-PAN +CW skimmer and NAP3 ever since I
upgraded my PC OS from XP to WIN7 ( 64bit ) with AMD X4 Phenom.
Tried now two different soundcards Infrasonic Quartet ( did work OK in XP )
and now recently bought EMU 0204 and same nightmare continues. Have
taken memory
Hello Jim,
I tried the first part of your answer but my computer does not show similar
selections (Win XP) under sound/devices; nothing like you describe in the first
two paragraphs.
I have tried both VOX and PTT w/no success.
However, we may have hit on something here with the headphones in
I was using my K3 in the vicinity
of several other operators who were using an IC-706MkIIG, an FT-857D,
and an IC-7000. All of these other radios produced horrible in-band
phase noise. When I asked them about it, they were completely unaware
that I was on the band!
Assuming the same
I want to use my KX3 with an HP-100 in a portable configuration.
Am I missing something?
I can use the HP-100 in the TTY mode with the KX3 TT command to recieve text
and it works very well.
I can not find a similar KX3 command to transmit.
Do I need a DOS (Yes old DOS) program that will send the
Bob,
The XG3 is quite a capable signal generator. It can do a lot,
especially when used with the XG3 Utility program, and sounds like it
would be excellent for the purposes you have stated. It is quite stable
both frequency wise and output level wise.
Drawbacks of the XG3 as I see it is that
Don't know what I may have changed, but when I transmit using SSB - there is
a terrible echo ringing in my headphones - ideas?
- Tony, N3ME -
118 Ashwood Street
Bethany Beach, DE 19930-9699
(302) 539-5638
Grid: FM28lm
http://www.n3me.net
Elecraft K3 # 2462
PVRC Member
You've turned the TX monitor function most probably.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 9/13/12 1:43 PM, Tony McClenny wrote:
Don't know what I may have changed, but when I transmit using SSB - there is
a terrible echo ringing in my headphones - ideas?
- Tony, N3ME -
118 Ashwood Street
Bethany Beach, DE
Interesting point---thanks for clarifying that, Alan.
At any rate, these other rigs were dirty and operating with them was a nuisance.
73,
--Ethan, K8GU/4.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net wrote:
I was using my K3 in the vicinity
of several other operators who were
I purchased two of these devices from Amazon right before someone on this
reflector posted that the one he bought got very hot to the touch and the
seller took it back and refunded his money.
I now have two of these and neither has even gotten warm. Both seem to work
fine. Can't believe no
I am perplexed and bewildered but not yet bothered. I can't decide on whether
I should order the internal 20 watt ATU or not. I have the external T1 ATU and
can use that but I would buy the internal ATU if there were significant
advantages like ease of use.
I plan to use the KX3 in both a
Is it the 'KY' command that you're looking for? Haven't tried this myself.
geoff - W1OH
On 09/13/2012 13:41, John Hendricks wrote:
I want to use my KX3 with an HP-100 in a portable configuration.
Am I missing something?
I can use the HP-100 in the TTY mode with the KX3 TT command to
Olli,
I'm sorry to read your comments. I'm running NaP3 with a E-MU-0202
sound card and the beta driver, the same driver you use. My PC is a
Toshiba laptop and the OS is Win7 Pro64. I must admit it took a little
fiddling to become stable, but it does work. The only problem that still
Matt Zilmer wrote
Phase noise and key clicks are the enemy. I respectfully suggest that
Wayne emphasize (as well) that designing a transceiver to
intentionally not produce either of these is a worthy objective more
on a moral plane than an operating advantage. Tactically, having
clicks
I have final information for making the K3 work with MAP65v2 for
those who are interested in working eme with their K3.
Trakbox: http://www.qsl.net/ik7ezn/Trakbox.htm
will send transmit frequency to the K3 via RS232 jack. Trakbox reads
azel.dat file produced by MAP65 to determine the frequency
Yep, I was finding merit in this choice of action. Allowing the adjustment of
rise/fall timings into key click territory should be discouraged.
Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
In status quo
I believe the tuning range on the internal ATU is very wide. Someone on the
reflector compared the tuning ranges of all the Elecraft ATUs and it is wider
than the T1. Also it will match it to a lower SWR than an LDG tuner. The
measurements indicate that the tuning ranges internal to the K2,
All,
Sounds to me like a very good reason to send them back...
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:01:21 -0500, Terry Schieler
w...@swbell.net wrote:
they arrived by USPS from China!
[SNIP]
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On 9/12/2012 9:18 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
The main real-world problem is that the K3 is a minority in the
general ham rig population. Maybe someday, the K3 penetration rate
will be high enough that we can hear it in how quiet the bands are.
Crowded but quiet between signals that is.
Yes, BUT
And thanks from me too. What has been pointed out here and what Lyle said
yesterday (see below) and what others have pointed out in their own ways has
demystified a subject that, once couched in simple words, is not so hard to
understand.
Quote from Lyle KK7P: Transmitted broadband noise is
Phil,
As you note, there are several factors to think about. However, one thing
that I always consider when choosing options is resale value.
You may love your KX3 forever and it may be part of your estate sale. On
the other hand, some day you may want to sell it to finance the purchase of
a
Just want to be sure that I understand the External Speaker Jack stereo vs mono
plug operation. To clarify, as long as you use the stereo plug, you can select
CONFIG:SPKRS 2, regardless of whether or not the other end of the plug is
stereo or using stereo speakers.
It is just critical for the
Phil, I only use non-resonant wire antennas fed with ladder line through
baluns (4:1 and 9:1). The K3 ATU (and I think Wayne said that the KX3
transmatch had essentially the same design philosophy) handles the 160M
full-size delta loop on top band through 6M, and the 80M dipole on 80M
through 6M,
I am getting ready to put in an order for a K2 kit. I currently have the
KX1, which is my only rig. I want something more substantial at home to
sit on the desktop and have fun with.
I am definitely getting the SSB option - mainly because I want to do some
of the digital modes.
I don't want to
Although the dominant competitive specs these days are receiver measurements,
the cleanliness of the K3 should get more press. It is perhaps a tough moral
sell but drop-dead easy in the multi-TX market. And Field Day is the most
popular activity in US ham radio. In addition to enhancing K3
Gary and all the others who responded to my question (on and off the net)...
Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I have made up my mind. I will be
ordering the KX3 Internal ATU with my KX3 order.
I hear of a price increase -- that has not happened yet has it? Maybe I should
place my
The ATU, in addition to ATUing, adds a second antenna socket. The
160/RXant option adds 160 meters and an RX antenna socket, along with the
firmware to receive on the RX ant and automatically transmit on another.
Some find the noise blanker to be important.
Peter W0LLN
On Thursday,
I have had a wonderful experience operating from hotels. I often use a
Buddistick or Outbacker Tri-Split with four counterpose wires (one for each
band) cut to frequency for both 20 and 40 meters strung across the hotel room.
I have also used the AD5X dipole that Phil describes on his Web
Burke,
It depends on what you want to accomplish with your K2.
Yes, the KSB2 will allow you to use digital modes - the K2 also has a
3rd set of filters that can be set up called the RTTY filter set (turn
it on or off in the secondary menu).
The K160RX adds a receive antenna and the 160 meter
* On 2012 13 Sep 14:25 -0500, Rick Tavan wrote:
Although the dominant competitive specs these days are receiver
measurements, the cleanliness of the K3 should get more press. It is
perhaps a tough moral sell but drop-dead easy in the multi-TX market.
And Field Day is the most popular activity
Hi,
Agreed on both points. Others have pointed out that wideband noise on
transmit is often much higher than the phase noise produced by the
synthesizer. My neighbor (3 doors = 240' away) is a good example of noise
produced by the transmit amplifiers rather than the synthesizer. He uses
mostly CW
What has been pointed out here and what Lyle said yesterday (see
below) and what others have pointed out in their own ways has
demystified a subject that, once couched in simple words, is not so
hard to understand.
Put another way, so many of the offending transceivers run the transmit
IF
I too have had excellent results from hotels. Mostly with wire and a section
of bamboo that plugged together off the balcony. I used two methods. With no
wind, I would use a Mylar helium baloon and #30 enamel wire at the end of the
bamboo then and a simple tuner. With wind, same bamboo and
So, are there advantages to the internal KX3 ATU over the T1.
I believe the tuning range on the internal ATU is very wide. Someone
on the reflector compared the tuning ranges of all the Elecraft ATUs
and it is wider than the T1.
I posted such information last month, summarized now as
Us old f*rts have got to quit thinking analog.
K3 CW is not keyed. It's effectively data-graphed and fed directly
into a digital-analog converter (DAC). Remember, ZERO SIGNAL OUT in
TX state is A STREAM OF DATA VALUES sent to a DAC that is RUNNING, not
a stage that is switched off. The keying
I think you'll appreciate the internal tuner for portable operation. For
me, having an internal tuner is a big incentive. Being in the rig's
package, it takes up less packing space and has no extra cables to hook
up. Connect the KX3 to an antenna and paddle or microphone, and it's on
the air.
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt that the phase
noise and key click sidebands generated by his station were an asset because
they cleared a guard band around his signal since other stations had to stay
away. He felt no motivation at all to clean up his signal. I
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For those that don't know Robert Heinlein:
TANSTAAFL= There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
There is wisdom here.
What Mike is saying is that, even though your auto-tuner may find a match to
make the transmitter happy, there may be more efficient ways of coupling
your signal to the ether.
There will always be alligators - big mouth, small ears.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/13/2012 7:00 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt that the
phase
noise and key click sidebands generated by his station were an asset because
they cleared a guard band
Sadly, Al- I believe quite a few Big Guns that enjoy reading their calls
in the contest reports feel exactly this way. To them it would be
detrimental to clean up their signals. They have no incentive at all to
care.
73,
Bruce, N1RX
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt
And peanut sized brains like most other dinosaurs...
Not quite extinct yet it seems.
Rick wa6nhc/kl
-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm
There will always be alligators - big mouth, small ears.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/13/2012 7:00 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
I once spoke to a nationally-known,
I too have heard such comments. My fervent hope is that someday someone
will write a piece of SDR software that quantifies such things by
callsign during a contest, and then posts the results to a web site
afterward. I'm pretty certain that it's technically feasible right now
to do so, at
Simple question: I also jumped at the first message, what a deal, as I would
like to get going on JT65 in a couple weeks. I ordered and received the same
bubble pack, same (looking) dongle, but it clearly states on the manual that
the mic input is mono. Is it not what it appears, like, is it a
One was a K3, not sure of the others. Some no-name Y/K/I types.
matt
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:00:53 +0200, you wrote:
Hello Matt,
Interesting that the other stations whose phase noise pestered you, did not
sense the presence of the K3's strong signal as the result of reciprocal
mixing in
On 9/13/2012 4:20 PM, Rick Bates wrote:
And peanut sized brains like most other dinosaurs...
I don't think alligators are related to or descended from dinosaurs, but
then I graduated in Math not Zoology.
Shameless plug for CQP follows,
73,
Fred K6DGW
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purchased for digi camera but never ended up keeping the camera. If you would
like pictures I can send them to you.
60.00 includes shipping in Canada and U.S.
Mike
VE3WDM
Bill,
I do not understand the utility in connecting both the left and right
speaker outputs to a single speaker - but I don't think it will do any
harm. Connecting the audio amplifiers together is different than
shorting the right channel to ground by inserting a mono plug. Why not
connect
I do not understand the utility in connecting both the left and right
speaker outputs to a single speaker - but I don't think it will do any
harm.
I would not try it unless the series output resistors are installed in
your K3. Otherwise use a pair of 2.2 Ohm resistors - one from the tip
Thank you all for the feedback.
Appreciate the help very much.
Bill - W0BBI
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I built mine with no options, later added the KSB2 board.
Have never missed having other options, though may soon build the KPA100.
Suggest building what you've mentioned and using it for awhile.
You'll have more than enough solder melting to complete what you've mentioned.
GL 73, Curt KB5JO
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Speaker plug
I would not try it unless the series output resistors are
installed in
your K3. Otherwise use a pair of 2.2 Ohm resistors - one from
On 9/13/2012 4:00 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt that the
phase
noise and key click sidebands generated by his station were an asset because
they cleared a guard band around his signal since other stations had to stay
away. He felt no
It's been going on for years. Back in the 70's it was an open secret
that some big-gun contesters would intentionally overdrive their
amplifiers whenever they needed to clear out nearby QRM.
Alan N1AL
On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 20:57 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:
On 9/13/2012 4:00 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
I was trying to figure out why my K3 wasn't transmitting in CW
as part of screwing up my courage to try a first CW QSO. (I want
to wait a while yet and do more listening before I actually
try.) I fired up the K3 utility to check that the 2.7KHz filter
was enabled for CW transmit. It was. Oh
This is very non-representative of contesters in general. Look how many are
buying
click-free K3's!
On 9/13/2012 8:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 9/13/2012 4:00 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt that the
phase
noise and key click sidebands
Very few in my fairly broad acquaintance. I've been contesting for half a
century and have belonged at times to PVRC, Murphys and NCCC.
/Rick N6XI
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I once spoke to a nationally-known, Big Gun contester who felt that the
OK, what connector does the antenna for the internal 2m module connect to?
Installation manual doesn't say. K3 manual doesn't say. Where is the
information? Is it the transverter out BNC?
(name withheld for dumb questions)
KG0KP
*I have often suspected this happens. Some of the dirtiest signals found on
the band are contest stations we hear in VK from EU regions.
Maybe we should make it 59 for good, 19 for bad...:-)
73
*
On 14 September 2012 14:51, Vic K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com wrote:
This is very non-representative
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