The country you may be referring to is Norway, where it has been decided to
switch off all the biggest broadcasters from FM (88-108 MHz) in 2017 as the
first country in the world, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32380222
It has been a controversial decision, I for one have critized the audio
Forgive me in advance if this is a stupid question.
Is there any reason you have to tune at full power? It seems to me that
tuning can be accomplished easily with much lower power. The same thing goes
for the ATU to the antenna. I don't see why we need more than a few MW at
most for the ATU to
I have one each 80 meter and a 17 meter band module parts packages.. I
would like to trade for 40 and 20 meter parts packages. I also have the
unpopulated board but I'm not sure if those parts are outside of the
band selection process. In any event I will trade either way.
Thanks
Bill
What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key?
:p
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, S.N. 010324
On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary wrote:
>Aah Jim,
>
>Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx
>station calling, you answer and by being so cheeky,
After some help hints from Dick (K6KR), Gary and the on-line trouble shoot
guide; we were able to trace to issue down to a faulty DB9/KXUSB cable. We have
ordered a new cable and will pass along any other learning that may occur
concerning this issue.Thanks to all.73, Bill - W0BBI
I view that an acceptable digital mode for ham radio has been around
since day one! It's called CW.And at one time, it was required of
all hams to learn to send and receive via the mode.
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163
On 9/18/2015 6:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
What is this microphone
Good grief
Gary
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I view that an acceptable digital mode for ham radio
Eric is gonna jump on us pretty quick guys.
Lets not delve into the history of cw and it's dropping from a requirement ok.
I should have learnt cw when I was 12, after 50 I felt like had Alzheimers.
But, perseverance won, took awhile though.
Gary
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Most VHF operators learn that there are good deals in used amps. I
only have one 180w 2m amp that I bought new (in 1976). All the
others were bought from other hams.
But one can build an amp vs buying overpriced Mirage junk. Look at
the 80w 2m kit that W6PQL offers. I have actually done a
Yep - that W6PQL 80 watt, all mode, 2 meter amp works great! I built one last
year from scratch - even fabricated the case/chassis myself. First time I’d
ever done any sheet metal work and surprisingly came out pretty darn well. The
amp works just fine, driven by my K3.
Jim / W6JHB
> On
Hi Bill,
Under main menu look for XV OFS. Believe has a +/- 10kc shift range
which will move you on frequency. If you had it right before it may have got
shifted or even turned off accidentally.
73,
Bob
K2TK
On 9/18/2015 6:51 PM, Bill Schwantes wrote:
Hi Folks,
I need help.
Some how my e mail and phone number got
screwed up.E mail. w0wfh@yahoo.comPhone. 573-291-5625
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I just installed a 2nd receiver and the 2M ref lock. The KRX3A
installation manual, which uses the new synths shows J4 of the
new style main synth connected to REF IN on the 2M transverter.
The ref lock installation manual shows J83 of the old style
synth connected to REF IN and REF OUT
I have the K144XV 2M module installed in my K3 and for some reason I
cannot record
the FM repeater activity using the KDVR3 voice recorder. In this mode it
has never worked.
Is this normal and a known problem?
The recorder icon shows it is recording but when I go to play it back
"END"
On Fri,9/18/2015 5:28 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
I just installed a 2nd receiver and the 2M ref lock. The KRX3A
installation manual, which uses the new synths shows J4 of the new
style main synth connected to REF IN on the 2M transverter.
I installed five synth boards. It's been a while, but I
Ah..when I do that folks send QLF...what the heck is that ??? LOL.. :D
Jer
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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To:
LOL yeah, the sales guys are all trained to tell you that you need to order it
if you need it. But also that the rig supports computer pc headset/electret
mic.
From: Gary [mailto:vk1zzg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 7:50 PM
To: Jerry Moore; j...@audiosystemsgroup.com;
Yep, when I got my extra 20wpm was still required.. I'm guessing it wasn't but
a few years after that the requirements started dropping.
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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McGraw - K4TAX
Very true my main HF amps are like that both Alphas an 87A and a 9500. Other
amps like my KPA500, Yaesu 1000 series SS units are fine to tune at low power.
Fred N0AZZ
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Original message From: Edward R Cole
Jerry,
The microphone I mentioned was I guess an inside joke with Wayne, way back when
the dark ages got some light, a customer ordered an early k3.
Guess who didn't notice you need to order one?
The look on my face was priceless, for all the rest there's Mastercard right?
Gary
Yes. Key is mounted on the side of the hand grip
and labeled PTT :-)
Phil W7OX
On 9/18/15 4:44 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
What is this microphone thing? Is that a new kind of key?
:p
Jerry Moore
AE4PB, S.N. 010324
On September 18, 2015 7:09:56 PM EDT, Gary wrote:
Aah
> FreeDV’s emission designator is 1K20J2E.
That is the *claimed* designator.
> “J3E” is “single sideband suppressed carrier”, “single channel
> containing analog information”, and “telephony”.
It is not J3E ... it is *J2E*.
"J" is single sideband suppressed carrier,
"2" is single channel
I especially notice annoying malfunction on buttons, Band/Up/Down/VOX/QSK,
Mode/Up/Down/ALT/TEST
and SUB button. These are controled by external software commend with no
problem. For me multiple
function button seems crazy, not easy to use.
I have K2 where same kind of buttons (simple TAP and
I tested my amp (http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html#amp) with 150' of RG8 into a
Cantenna (almost) submerged in a bucket of water. Wasn't CCS but okay for my
purposes. Using the loss in coax for an attenuator isn't unheard of.
When I was still in the work force I once had to test some cables with
I can tell you this there is a world of difference between 800w and 2.5k or
even 1.5k for that matter. I am in 0 land and very hard to break the coasts on
a good day at times so a little extra helps break those pile ups.
Fred N0AZZ
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:16:43 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote:
> The difference better 800W and 500W is about 2 dB. Barely noticeable.
Two db is quite noticeable when you are in the noise.
Gary
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There is no need, in fact it is considered objectionable, to adjust a
tuner at full power. It is also very hard on the components. As to an
amp, the only way I know to adjust one is working it up to full power
and than reducing drive to the power value you desire to operate.
For manual
Will the K3S schematics be posted soon?
73, Ian N8IK
K3S s/n 10111
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Hi All,
My Cantenna has sat in a bucket since I built it many many years ago.
No seen it as yet from our house move last month, but have not seem any
oil stains as yet. I am sure the boss would have told me!
73
Tim
gm4lm
On 18/09/2015 19:00, Edward R Cole wrote:
Don't have much to say:
Had
Working with my newly constructed K3S today, I noticed that receiving through
the FL4 crystal filter (400 hz, 8-pole) was noticeably suppressed. Through the
FL3 (1.8 kHz) filter, an RTTY signal would be nice and strong with good S-meter
indications. Going to 400 Hz the signal would nearly be
Actually, it you are talking about tube amps---typically the ones that need
tuning---then although it may seem objectionable, tuning into the actual load,
at the power level you are going to run is the appropriate thing to do.
On 9/18/2015 12:57 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
There is no need,
Don't have much to say:
Had a Cantenna from Heath in the 60's - knocked over; spilt mineral
oil on the floor, threw can away!
I have acquired "dry" loads over the years rated into UHF and
sometimes to mw at flea markets and swaps. My highest power load is
500w Sierra with power meter and
The power limit for most hams and ham bands is 1.5 KW PEP output. The rules
don't state where the output is measured. I assume it's at the antenna since
the transmission line is part of my transmitter's matching system. With lossy
lines, 2.5 KW at the line input doesn't seem unreasonable.
The difference better 800W and 500W is about 2 dB. Barely noticeable.
The difference between 2500W and 800W is about 5dB. About an S-unit.
Grant NQ5T
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>
> Now my debate is 500w vs 800w... there's a larger difference between 500w
> and 800w than between 800w and 2.5kw
Who runs 2.5K ? Uh, isn't that just a wee bit over the legal limit?
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163
On 9/18/2015 1:54 PM, mfsj wrote:
I can tell you this there is a world of difference between 800w and 2.5k or
even 1.5k for that matter. I am in 0 land and very hard to break the coasts on
a
My experience (admittedly ancient) is that good quality and Mirage said in the
same sentence is an oxymoron, or in other words, a mirage.
RF Concepts amps were fine.
On 9/17/2015 10:30 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Thu,9/17/2015 8:40 PM, jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
The only problem is, an
Can anyone share their experience in using the K3s built in sound card with
various digital mode software including JT65.
Howard AE3T
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Works just fine. No issues with WSJT-X and JT 9 or JT65. Also works
well with FLGIGI and HRD/DM780. I'm running these under the Windows 10
environment. I use the DATA A mode on the K3S.
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163
On 9/18/2015 8:46 PM, Howard Sherer wrote:
Can anyone share their
When CW is a digital voice mode, let me know. That is the topic of this
discussion.
wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>
> I view that an acceptable digital mode for ham radio has been
In response to W4TV Joe's question:
The frequency offset for the 8-pole crystal filter is 0.00 Hz.
The Pitch is 650 Hz on the K3S. And the Mark for RTTY is the standard 2125 Hz.
I've got a new 400 Hz filter on its way so I'll see what the problem is. I just
hope it's not an RF board. I took
It means ..."send with your left foot"...
HI HI
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Works great! I'm only doing RTTY and PSK31 here. MMTTY through N1MM+ when in
contest mode, "AFSK A" digital mode K3S. When not in N1MM+ contest for rag
chew MMTTY straight through K3S "AFSK A". PSK31, running DATA A mode in K3S
with older version of Digipan. Plug and play, love it!
73 Gene N9TF
I was trying to be funny with the mic as a key comment. I'm almost on the air
:) hopefully tomorrow if the mail made it this far :)
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End of thread. We've well surpassed the list posting limit per hr on this one..
73,
Eric
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Hi William,
The enclosure was designed as an integral part of the acoustic system to
generate a desired SP3 response. Placing additional items inside the case will
distort this response.
Also, The case is totally filled with speaker 'filler' material to properly
acoustic load the driver.
That's not so much of a bandwidth problem as a courtesy problem.
Al W6LX
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And don't try to make a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV
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Folks let's close this thread. Clearly people are not self moderating when
posts exceed ten plus in a short period on a topic.
Please, take discussions off list when there are an excessive number of
postings in a short period as this one. It is not necessary to wait for me to
shut down a
So far not good. See:
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mic-VOX-interaction-tt7606353.html#none
After a follow up query to HQ, I got this response from Wayne:
"Our DSP engineer identified this issue himself a couple of weeks ago while I
was on vacation, and it's now on my list. I'll bump
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K2 #2198, K3 #3391,
LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com,
LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications:
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View this message in context:
Well ...it seems pretty clear.
Part 97.3 states: "(6) PEP (peak envelope power). The average power
supplied to the antenna transmission line by a transmitter during one RF
cycle at the crest of the modulation envelope taken under normal
operating conditions."
Part 97. 313 states
On Fri,9/18/2015 1:46 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
My experience (admittedly ancient) is that good quality and Mirage
said in the same sentence is an oxymoron, or in other words, a mirage.
Wes,
Do you include the original ('70s vintage from NorCal) in that assessment?
73, Jim
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WITH RX ANTENNA SWITCH. MH2HAND MIC TOPCOVER WITH BATTERY FOR
Aah Jim,
Yes, "Emergency Nets" and SSTV, it is stunning how you here a dx station
calling, you answer and by being so cheeky, you suddenly get swamped.
We got'em over here too, you folks are not alone.
So glad Elecraft supplied a VFO as standard, unlike a microphone, right Wayne?
Soon as I
Bill,
A wild guess - did you have an offset turned on in the menu before you
installed the K3EXREF?
I assume you have both the K3EXREF option along with the K144RFLK
options for best stability of the K144XV.
Check the XVn OFS menu parameter.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/18/2015 6:51 PM, Bill
On Fri,9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
Is bandwidth really our biggest problem?
It is during contests. Or when you're trying to fit in between the many
ragchewing nets masquerading as "emergency" nets. And don't try to make
a SSB QSO on the frequencies that the SSTV crowd has claimed,
I have done some more experimenting now with my poor man's 10 MHz reference.
The ublox Neo-7 GPS is a lousy frequency reference in most respects, except
that it is accurate in keeping exactly 10 million periods per second. My
experience is that the K3 has enough internal averaging to deal with
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Jamie,
What is the offset (FL# FRQ)?
What is the PITCH in the K3S vs. MARK in your RTTY software?
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 9/18/2015 3:30 PM, James C. Hall, MD wrote:
Working with my newly constructed K3S today, I noticed that receiving through
the FL4 crystal filter (400 hz, 8-pole) was
Would HF digital voice be classified as Voice/Image because it started
out as analog voice [and thus be confined to the Voice/Image sub-bands],
or as RTTY/Data because the actual transmitted signal is digital [and
thus confined to the RTTY/Data sub-bands]? Different emission standards
apply
FreeDV’s emission designator is 1K20J2E.
The “1K20” prefix is the bandwidth. “J3E” is “single sideband suppressed
carrier”, “single channel containing analog information”, and “telephony”.
Totally legal.
http://freedv.org/tiki-index.php?page=FreeDV+Specification
wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
Jamie,
Is there any chance that you have installed the 400Hz filter backwards.
Several have reported similar results from that problem.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/18/2015 3:30 PM, James C. Hall, MD wrote:
Working with my newly constructed K3S today, I noticed that receiving through
the FL4
Hello all;
I would like to trade a XV50 or XV144 for a XV220 transverter.
I am getting ready to sell off my K2 station an alloptions. More information
too follow.
So I can up grade my K3 which I love.
73, Bill Hudson, W0WFH1706 Hwy CCLinn, Mo. 65051573-291-5625w0...@yahoo.com
Yes, digital voice is classified as Phone as long as the emission
designator has: "A, C, D, F, G, H, J or R as the first symbol; 1, 2, 3
or X as the second symbol; E as the third symbol." or "B or F as the
first symbol; 7, 8 or 9 as the second symbol [and] E as the third
symbol." - From
There's a process in the owners manual for adjusting dB loss compensation for
the roofing filters. You can see it with the k3 utility
On September 18, 2015 4:57:39 PM EDT, "Joe Subich, W4TV"
wrote:
>
>Jamie,
>
>What is the offset (FL# FRQ)?
>
>What is the PITCH in the K3S vs.
Just noticed that I am unable to engage the installed KXFL3 on 6 meters.
Works on all the other bands.
Menu selection Rx xFIL is set to nor.
Dual watch isn't on.
Any suggestions?
Rob
KA5QQA
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On Fri,9/18/2015 10:17 AM, Richard W. Solomon wrote:
Give me the Nice sound of a well engineered WB FM audio any day.
The problem is that, like AM, especially wide AM, it's a real spectrum
hog. Which is why NBFM is used.
73, Jim K9YC
On Fri,9/18/2015 1:42 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
Actually, it you are talking about tube amps---typically the ones that
need tuning---then although it may seem objectionable, tuning into the
actual load, at the power level you are going to run is the
appropriate thing to do.
Absolutely. The
I've got some questions about the type of GPS module I'm using. It is a ublox
NEO-7M. The nice feature of this unit is that it has a programmable output
which nominally excites an LED at 1 pulse per second, but which also can be
programmed to 10 MHz. That output is not connected, so one needs to
Hi Folks,
I need help. I have an early K3 equipped with the K3EXREF Frequency Lock
Option, K144XV Two Meter Module and K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock
Option.
Some time after installing the KSYN3A synthesizers I noticed that the 144
Mhz band has a 5.6 KHz frequency error. Signals
Jerry,
Certainly its appropriate to tune your antenna tuner at low power. I
have an "ancient" Drake MN-2000 which is rated for 2000w PEP but I
can tune it with 10w from my K3/10 with my linear off. Then I turn
on my station control panel which enables PTT to the amp. Lately
been using my
I discover a problem with my KAT500 in that the Utility shows that no Software
is loaded. It still received signals from the computer as I can control it from
HRD but I cannot make changes via the Utility. The cable Interface Cable shows
only "flashing red" light. To this point I have confirmed
from some reading I have done recently, D-star is an open source from
Japan ham community.
I agree, if it's not open, it's not ham radio.
We use FM on 10, 6, and 2 - modes included in the KX3/K3s, maybe the
future should include d-star.
73, steve WB3LGC
On 17-Sep-15 9:28 PM, Don Wilhelm
Let me re-phrase the question:
How hard would it be to implement a new mode on the K3S?
I am having a blast learning all of the menus and how to do things.. I never
actually realized how many functions and settings there are (even after
reading the manuals). There's a lot that doesn't seem to
My understanding is that we as a community "self-police". If we find an OM out
of band or transmitting an out of spec signal we do the neighborly thing and
help them fix it. I don't believe anyone (there are lids..other than them)
intentionally transmits a poor signal. My view is that much of
Comparisons with single signal stations seems irrelevant.
Is anybody addressing the issue of QRM from other stations? I suspect
digital will fold -- especially when one is trying to detect one out of
many or a station immersed in splatter from one or more stations.
The ability of the mind
Don,
To a certain extent, I agree with you. I also do not like proprietary
technologies. However, if you look at the history of ham radio, many of the
products and technologies we use today started out as “proprietary”
technologies. Also, much of the history of ham radio is based on
> maybe the future should include d-star.
The baud rate of D-Star is too high for the current HF regulations. In
addition, it is 6K00F7W ... F7W is only authorized above 51 MHz.
Finally, I'm not sure anyone would appreciate 6 kHz wide digital voice
signals in the already crowded HF bands.
Bill,
Check baud rate. Could be you are not connected to the kat500 hence no fw
upload to your PC.
Gary
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Subject: [Elecraft]
I'll never knowingly support a proprietary protocol in Amateur Radio.
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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:29 PM
To: Robert Nobis
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Robust maybe but hardly speedy further out.
Here are some bit rates from HORIZON space craft:
Jupiter Flyby - 35 kbps
Pluto - 2000 bps
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Mission/Spacecraft/Data-Collection.php
The bit rate drops to hundreds of bits/second further out.
73 de Brian/K3KO
On 9/18/2015 16:17
Digital tends to be either perfect armchair copy, or fairly unusable.
It's going to depend a whole lot on how it's encoded, the data rate, and
how much error detection and correction is used.
Bump up the data rate, do some forward error correction and it's likely
to be fairly robust. Some
(trying to be brief and return to being on-topic :-)
Robert Nobis writes:
> To a certain extent, I agree with you. I also do not like proprietary
> technologies. However, if you look at the history of ham radio, many
> of the products and technologies we use today started out
The D-Star protocol is published and open, but all the radios use a
proprietary, licensed voice codec (AMBE). Also, Icom has registered the
trademark “D-STAR”.
It would be possible to run D-Star with an open source codec (like Codec2), but
it probably would not interoperate with other D-Star
I fail to see why folks are getting excited over DMR. To me, the audio sounds
Terrible. Perhaps it's just the excitement of being on the bleeding edge.
Similar problems happened with FM when it was narrow-banded. Give me the
Nice sound of a well engineered WB FM audio any day.
Also, who
I suspect nearly all commercially manufactured equipment for the ham radio
market has some patents associated with the design and technology.
Bob Nobis - N7RJN
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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 09:29, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> (trying to be brief and return to being
Given that most QSOs are less than interplanetary distances, and given
that 8 kilobits will probably do for voice, I think we're okay.
73 -- Lynn
On 9/18/2015 9:57 AM, brian wrote:
Robust maybe but hardly speedy further out.
Here are some bit rates from HORIZON space craft:
Jupiter Flyby - 35
I'm sorry, I don't begrudge anybody wanting to experiment with digital voice,
but every time I listen to audio clips of DV I am appalled by the sound
quality. I have to prefer SSB almost every single time.
The examples on that site of DV with a 20 dB SNR are pretty awful. Thy soun
like litte
On 9/18/2015 10:24 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't begrudge anybody wanting to experiment with digital voice,
but every time I listen to audio clips of DV I am appalled by the sound
quality. I have to prefer SSB almost every single time.
SSB has been around for decades, and we're
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