Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-11-01 Thread Geoffrey Downs
As Don says if CONFIG:VFO OFS is set to OFF it does of course stop the 
RIT/XIT knob changing the K3 frequency when RIT/XIT is off  but it has no 
effect on the feature originally reported: ie the P3 frequency readout 
changes at twice the rate of the K3 when RIT is on. XIT is slightly 
different - the P3 shows the right tx frequency but does not revert to the 
K3 frequency when XIT is turned off. I still think it could be a K3 f/w 
issue.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

Gene,

You may have discovered the key - I suspect you have CONFIG: VFO OFS
set to Yes - that allows the RIT/XIT knob to tune in coarse increments
when RIT and XIT are off.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-11-01 Thread hb9brj
K3 4.39  CONFIG: VFO OFS = yes
P3 1.09  span +/- 4 kHz

(1) VFO A = 3550.0, RIT off:
 -- green P3 cursor centered, P3 reads 3550.00

(2) turn RIT on and set it to +1 kHz:
 -- K3 VFO A now reads 3551.0
 -- red P3 cursor is 1 kHz left from display center
 -- P3 reads 3552.00

(3) tap CLR:
 -- same as (1) above

73, Markus HB9BRJ


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-11-01 Thread Alan Bloom
Hi David,

Sorry I didn't reply before.  I'm catching up on my email after eye
surgery.

I confirmed the problem.  The cursors are the correct places on the
screen but the displayed center frequency is wrong.  I'll add it to the
bug list, thanks.

Alan


On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 17:50 +, David Pratt wrote:
 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT 
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT 
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest 
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I 
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?
 
 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.
 
 73 de David G4DMP
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread David Pratt
I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT 
frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT 
deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest 
firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I 
have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

73 de David G4DMP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
I did not notice it before but I get the same thing - P3 is twice the deviation 
in frequency as the K3.

Bob  W6VY

I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT 
frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT 
deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest 
firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I 
have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

73 de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 10/31/2011 1:50 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

 73 de David G4DMP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Stephen Prior
Now I feel really stupid.  I was definitely seeing the problem that David
was but now I can't duplicate it.  Time for a glass of red.

73, Stephen, G4SJP

On 31 October 2011 20:17, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
 calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
 cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 10/31/2011 1:50 PM, David Pratt wrote:
  I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
  frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
  deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
  firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
  have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?
 
  Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.
 
  73 de David G4DMP
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread David Pratt
Yes, quite sure, Joe, and I have had off list replies from others who
are finding the same anomaly.

David

In a recent message, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com writes


Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/31/2011 1:50 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Rick Prather
Not here!

With the P3 set to 10 khz span and the main cursor on 4 when I tune either the 
RIT or XIT 1 khz the cursor is on 3 or 5 exactly.

Rick
K6LE

On 10/31/2011, at 10:50 , David Pratt wrote:

 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT 
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT 
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest 
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I 
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?
 
 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.
 
 73 de David G4DMP
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

What version of the firmware?  It is quite repeatedly correct here.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 10/31/2011 4:58 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 Yes, quite sure, Joe, and I have had off list replies from others who
 are finding the same anomaly.

 David

 In a recent message, Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com  writes


 Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
 calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
 cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 10/31/2011 1:50 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Joe K2UF
What about the freq display?  The red cursor is correct but the actual
numeric freq display is double the delta.

Joe K2UF

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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:36 PM
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

Not here!

With the P3 set to 10 khz span and the main cursor on 4 when I tune either
the RIT or XIT 1 khz the cursor is on 3 or 5 exactly.

Rick
K6LE

On 10/31/2011, at 10:50 , David Pratt wrote:

 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT 
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT 
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest 
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I 
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?
 
 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.
 
 73 de David G4DMP
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Rick Prather
OK, I think I may see the reason for conflicting results.

If, for example, I set my main VFO to 24.901 the P3 will also read 24.901.  
Then if I turn on the XIT and turn it 1 khz to 24.902 the B cursor will be on 
the 1 khz line above the center and the P3 will read 24.902.  All good so far.

If I then turn off the XIT the transmit cursor will turn off and the XIT light 
goes out but the display still says 24.902 until I hit the CLR button.  

Maybe this doesn't explain the OP's question but it could lead to someone being 
confused.

K6LE
Rick


On 10/31/2011, at 2:35 , Rick Prather wrote:

 Not here!
 
 With the P3 set to 10 khz span and the main cursor on 4 when I tune either 
 the RIT or XIT 1 khz the cursor is on 3 or 5 exactly.
 
 Rick
 K6LE

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Rick Prather
No, the P3 read cursor is on the 1 khz mark and the display reads 1 khz up.   
As it should.

Mine is FW 1.09

Rick
K6LE


On 10/31/2011, at 2:44 , Joe K2UF wrote:

 What about the freq display?  The red cursor is correct but the actual
 numeric freq display is double the delta.
 
 Joe K2UF

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Yes - in tracking mode.  In fixed mode the frequencies are the same.  And if 
you switch between fixed and tracking mode with the RIT on you can get really 
confused if you look at the P3 frequency.

Bob  W6VY

Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Same 'feature' here. Also If I turn the RIT off the P3 display changes to 
show the frequency that the K3 showed when the RIT was on and not the 
frequency that the K3 reverts to when the RIT is turned off. Pressing CLR on 
the K3 corrects the P3 display. Turning the P3 off and on again doesn't 
correct its display but turning the K3 off and on again does. Does this 
suggest that it's a K3 f/w issue?

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: David Pratt
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:50 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

73 de David G4DMP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread David Pratt
P3:  1.09
K3:  4.42

In a recent message, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com writes


What version of the firmware?  It is quite repeatedly correct here.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/31/2011 4:58 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 Yes, quite sure, Joe, and I have had off list replies from others who
 are finding the same anomaly.

 David

 In a recent message, Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com  writes


 Are you sure?  Just checked mine (FW ver 1.09) and the RIT and XIT
 calibrations are correct ... move RIT or XIT 2.00 KHz and the (red)
 cursor is 2 KHz away from the green cursor.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 10/31/2011 1:50 PM, David Pratt wrote:
 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

 73 de David G4DMP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  What about the freq display?

Correct here in both tracking and fixed tune mode.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 10/31/2011 5:44 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:
 What about the freq display?  The red cursor is correct but the actual
 numeric freq display is double the delta.

 Joe K2UF

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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Prather
 Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 5:36 PM
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

 Not here!

 With the P3 set to 10 khz span and the main cursor on 4 when I tune either
 the RIT or XIT 1 khz the cursor is on 3 or 5 exactly.

 Rick
 K6LE

 On 10/31/2011, at 10:50 , David Pratt wrote:

 I am getting a 'feature' with my P3 when using RIT. I find that the RIT
 frequency deviation displayed on the P3 is twice that of the RIT
 deviation displayed on the K3.  As far as I am aware I have the latest
 firmware installed on both my K3 and my P3.  Is this a know bug or do I
 have a fault in my K3/P3 installation?

 Sorry if I have missed it if it has been discussed on here before.

 73 de David G4DMP



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Gene Langendorff

I have just discovered something else.  With RIT/XIT turned off, turning the
RIT/XIT knob changes the frequency of the K3 and the displays on both K3 and
P3.  The rate is 0.1 kHz as if in COARSE tuning mode.  I see no mention of
this feature in the K3 manual.

I thought having the P3 connected to the K3 might cause some interaction so
disconnected it -- same behavior on the K3.

Maybe it has something to do with the date today.  The goblins are doing it
to us.

Gene K6TTM

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gene,

You may have discovered the key - I suspect you have CONFIG: VFO OFS 
set to Yes - that allows the RIT/XIT knob to tune in coarse increments 
when RIT and XIT are off.

It has nothing to do with ghosts and goblins, just your menu settings.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2011 6:52 PM, Gene Langendorff wrote:
 I have just discovered something else.  With RIT/XIT turned off, turning the
 RIT/XIT knob changes the frequency of the K3 and the displays on both K3 and
 P3.  The rate is 0.1 kHz as if in COARSE tuning mode.  I see no mention of
 this feature in the K3 manual.

 I thought having the P3 connected to the K3 might cause some interaction so
 disconnected it -- same behavior on the K3.

 Maybe it has something to do with the date today.  The goblins are doing it
 to us.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Gene Langendorff
Thank you Mike (off-line) and Don.  Another new thing learned about this
radio.  Love it!

Gene K6TTM

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

Gene,

You may have discovered the key - I suspect you have CONFIG: VFO OFS 
set to Yes - that allows the RIT/XIT knob to tune in coarse increments 
when RIT and XIT are off.

It has nothing to do with ghosts and goblins, just your menu settings.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2011 6:52 PM, Gene Langendorff wrote:
 I have just discovered something else.  With RIT/XIT turned off, turning
the
 RIT/XIT knob changes the frequency of the K3 and the displays on both K3
and
 P3.  The rate is 0.1 kHz as if in COARSE tuning mode.  I see no mention
of
 this feature in the K3 manual.

 I thought having the P3 connected to the K3 might cause some interaction
so
 disconnected it -- same behavior on the K3.

 Maybe it has something to do with the date today.  The goblins are doing
it
 to us.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Know bug?

2011-10-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
There are a lot of configuration menu settings that will change the 
behavior of the K3 - that is one thing I love about this radio.  I would 
suggest a through study of the manual - starting with the chart of menu 
settings.  if you do not understand what a particular menu entry will 
do, then study the relevant descriptive section of the manual until you 
understand what is going to happen if a particular menu setting is on or 
off (or something in between).  You can experiment a bit, but do it with 
a bit of understanding - in other words, study the relevant descriptive 
section of the manual.

Once you know what the menu settings will do for you, your operating 
experience with the K3 (or any other radio) will be enhanced tenfold - 
because you will then know how to customize it to your personal preferences.

Study the manual - YES - but I suggest starting with the menu entries 
(after you have gotten through the initial setup items), and your 
knowledge of the radio will be greatly enhanced.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2011 7:48 PM, Gene Langendorff wrote:
 Thank you Mike (off-line) and Don.  Another new thing learned about this
 radio.  Love it!

 Gene K6TTM

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