Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2013 09:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Still more cash than a 5i25 by quite a margin. Someone suggested the 6i74 IIRC, so I went and picked up the latest price list. Whatever, it was nearly $200 for the PCI-e version. Not at all competitive when you add the

Re: [Emc-developers] From Paolo

2013-02-06 Thread Schooner
On 2/5/13 06:31 , Schooner wrote: For info I have built kernel 3.5.7-RTAI using Paulo's patch and it works perfectly Wow, great! Did you run linuxcnc with it, or just the RTAI test programs? I did normal load tests, which was what Paulo was after. The problem at present is that magma is

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread John Morris
On 02/04/2013 08:43 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 04.02.2013 um 14:11 schrieb EBo: On Feb 4 2013 4:18 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 04.02.2013 um 11:29 schrieb EBo: In the past, and I can read it between the lines now, that the invasiveness of the modifications will take so much time and

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/6/2013 1:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 02:26:59 Gregory Perry did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett There are two (2) 200MHz RISC cores that constitute the PRUSS

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread EBo
On Feb 6 2013 5:43 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/6/2013 1:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 02:26:59 Gregory Perry did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett There are two

Re: [Emc-developers] [PRE-ANNOUNCE] Precise x86 Xenomai kernel PPA online for testing

2013-02-06 Thread sam sokolik
What repository do I need? when I do 'install the smictrl package' I get package not found.. thanks sam On 2/5/2013 7:31 PM, John Morris wrote: The PPA now has an 'smictrl' utility package for manipulating the SMI register. More info here:

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/6/2013 6:51 AM, EBo wrote: What are the max switching speed of both PRU and GPIO pins? The PRU I/O pins can switch state every 5 nS, so a 10 nS cycle or generating a 100 MHz clock. The GPIO pins can be written by the 700+ MHz ARM CPU, but they

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 08:58:45 Charles Steinkuehler did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On 2/6/2013 1:27 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 02:26:59 Gregory Perry did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2013 13:25, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: Please ask questions about anything still unclear, and I promise a short answer. This seems to be close to (or possibly already there) a situation where LinuxCNC can be distributed as application-only to run on a generic kernel.

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 February 2013 13:25, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: Please ask questions about anything still unclear, and I promise a short answer. This seems to be close to (or possibly already there) a situation where

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Now, is anyone working on a 'breakout' board? Cheers, Gene -- See my previous email in this thread. In general, search for beaglebone capes on your favorite search engine. The most promising cape is the bebopr for

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 09:27:39 Eric Keller did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Now, is anyone working on a 'breakout' board? Cheers, Gene -- See my previous

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2013 06:51 AM, EBo wrote: What are the max switching speed of both PRU and GPIO pins? GPIO driven by bit-banging from the ARM processor is approximately 240 ns, and it apparently holds the CPU in a wait state until the operation is performed by the GPIO multiplexer. So, you can

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, was custom EDM configuration questions - HAL + UI damage assessment

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
What changes is: 1. how a HAL component is created - check if comp exists, yell if it does etc. 2. how a pin is created - checking if the name exists, tell HAL to create a pin of a certain type and direction. 3. how the current pin value is is read 4. how a pin value is set 5. how

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/6/2013 8:08 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 08:58:45 Charles Steinkuehler did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett There are a *LOT* of I/O on the BeagleBone vs. a parallel

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, was custom EDM configuration questions - HAL + UI damage assessment

2013-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2013 17:22, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Is ZeroMQ available for windows eg windows UI, linux embeded cnc controller? Yes. http://www.zeromq.org/ Windows, OSX, Linux, -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 10:08:34 Steve Stallings did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/BeagleBoard-by-CircuitCo/BB-BONE-BBP R-01 /?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhuMLNU3HAk3tDdztQALejUHZlcp8foNaA%3d Mouser part number

[Emc-developers] lcnc on Olinuxino - update

2013-02-06 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Well after considerable delay, I now have two working A13-Olinuxino-wifi boards. I was sent two replacement boards direct from Bulgaria confirming that there was something wrong with the SD ports on the two I received from a local supplier. I have now managed to successfully compile a very

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question: FPGA

2013-02-06 Thread Joachim Franek
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 09:08:26 Gene Heskett wrote: Now, is anyone working on a 'breakout' board? Cheers, Gene Searching for Beaglebone FPGA I find: https://specialcomp.com/beaglebone/BeagleBone_FPGA.html http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/bcc/index.html

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/6/2013 8:15 AM, Eric Keller wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 February 2013 13:25, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: Please ask questions about anything still unclear, and I promise a short

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/6/2013 6:25 AM, John Morris wrote: On 02/04/2013 08:43 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: ...well in fact that's what John is doing for RTAPI, with the intent to arrive at a universal build that supports RTAI, Xenomai, RT_PREEMPT and sim 'automagically'; that's not part of the current merge

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Bas Laarhoven
On 6-2-2013 16:28, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 10:08:34 Steve Stallings did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/BeagleBoard-by-CircuitCo/BB-BONE-BBP R-01

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Tom Easterday
How can I run this, Chris? I pulled the latest off the buildbot and changed our config according to your instructions on the wiki but gscreen doesn't seem to be in there anywhere (I can't find the executable). -Tom On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:54 AM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2013 08:08 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Thats much better. I just hope that we aren't setting up a fork, with each version diverging until we are no longer capable of keeping a leg in both canoes. Now, is anyone working on a 'breakout' board? Cheers, Gene I did a parallel port emulator

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2013 07:59 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: The GPIO pins can be written by the 700+ MHz ARM CPU, but they apparently don't track changes that fast. Really, how deterministic the pin updates can be seems more important than the ultimate frequency, at least for step/dir control. Yes,

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.02.2013 um 15:08 schrieb andy pugh: On 6 February 2013 13:25, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: Please ask questions about anything still unclear, and I promise a short answer. This seems to be close to (or possibly already there) a situation where LinuxCNC can be distributed as

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gregory Perry
The BeagleBone uses 3.3V on the expansion headers, so for building a breakout setup you would probably want to include some level conversion kits to convert that to 5V (and for isolation). Adafruit has a nice selection of addons for the BeagleBone: http://www.adafruit.com/category/75 I

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.02.2013 um 15:15 schrieb Eric Keller: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 February 2013 13:25, John Morris j...@zultron.com wrote: Please ask questions about anything still unclear, and I promise a short answer. This seems to be close to (or

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gregory Perry
Performance depends on if you are doing everything is userland or in the kernel. For a good overview of BeagleBone performance with driving servos: http://veter-project.blogspot.com/2011/09/real-time-enough-about-pwms-and-shaky.html They eventually settled on using Xenomai with a kernel driver

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master From: tom-...@bgp.nu Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:52:37 -0500 CC: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: chrisinnana...@hotmail.com How can I run this, Chris? I pulled the latest off the buildbot and changed our config according to

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gregory Perry
There is also the FlyingBone Cape which was released under Creative Commons so you could use it in your own design: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32079084@N00/6349929888/ All of the gerbers and BOM are in the git repo. From: Charles Steinkuehler

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, was custom EDM configuration questions - HAL + UI damage assessment

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.02.2013 um 16:22 schrieb Chris Morley: What changes is: 1. how a HAL component is created - check if comp exists, yell if it does etc. 2. how a pin is created - checking if the name exists, tell HAL to create a pin of a certain type and direction. 3. how the current pin

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 2/6/13 11:08 , Chris Morley wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master From: tom-...@bgp.nu Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:52:37 -0500 CC: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: chrisinnana...@hotmail.com How can I run this, Chris? I pulled the latest off the buildbot

Re: [Emc-developers] lcnc on Olinuxino - update

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.02.2013 um 16:15 schrieb Eric H. Johnson: Well after considerable delay, I now have two working A13-Olinuxino-wifi boards. I was sent two replacement boards direct from Bulgaria confirming that there was something wrong with the SD ports on the two I received from a local supplier.

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Tom Easterday
On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Did you remember to . scripts/rip-environment in the terminal? Yes. If you load a config it should be linuxcnc 2.6 something. Yes, it is 2.6.pre There is also sample configs in sim/gscreen, sim/gscreen_custom

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Tom Easterday
On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Tom is running debs from the buildbot, so he should not run the rip-environment script. Tom, make sure you've installed a 2.6~pre deb, not a 2.5 deb. You can check what you currently have installed by running this:

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
From: tom-...@bgp.nu Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:24:29 -0500 To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Tom is running debs from the buildbot, so he should not

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Tom Easterday
On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry Tom I led you down the dark path with the .script/rip command I'm so used to run-in-place :) I'm not sure what going on. So you are saying I shouldn't use the rip script? Why wouldn't run in place work? -Tom

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Morley
From: tom-...@bgp.nu Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:38:37 -0500 To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry Tom I led you down the dark path with the

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 2/6/13 12:24 , Tom Easterday wrote: Hmm, when I type dpkg -s linuxcnc | grep Version it tells me Version 1: 2.5.1. If I don't type . ./rip-enviromment from within ~/linucnc-dev/scripts then linuxcnc launches 2.5.1. If I do type . ./rip-enviromment from within ~/linucnc-dev/scripts then

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Tom Easterday
Well, going through the procedure to get it from the buildbot and install again worked. It didn't update anything (because it didn't need to). Perhaps the install script failed for some reason the first time? I lost the output from the terminal. Anyway, it is working now, thanks for your

Re: [Emc-developers] gscreen merged to master

2013-02-06 Thread Matt Shaver
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:38:37 -0500 Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: So you are saying I shouldn't use the rip script? Why wouldn't run in place work? -Tom Do this: 1. Remove all linuxcnc* and emc2* packages. 2. Add these two APT source lines to your repository list: deb

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gregory Perry
And even moreso when a breakout board has been built for a reasonable price that actually gives us the ability to use all of the GPIB pins, which will approximately double the number of pins available from a parport setup. It looks like all of the available GPIOs on the BeagleBone can be

Re: [Emc-developers] lcnc on Olinuxino - update

2013-02-06 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Michael, Thanks for all of the good information. I have not yet found anyone further ahead than me. There is one person on the Olinuxino forum who is just getting started, but his hardware has not even arrived. Regards, Eric Assuming you dont find anybody having done the Xenomai footwork for

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gregory Perry
More info on direct DDR accessing of the PRU from userland Python (PyPRUSS): http://hipstercircuits.com/?p=468 From: Gregory Perry Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:10 PM To: EMC developers Subject: RE: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question And even

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBone question

2013-02-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 19:05:34 Bas Laarhoven did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February 2013 by Gene Heskett On 6-2-2013 16:28, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2013 10:08:34 Steve Stallings did opine: Message additions Copyright Wednesday 06 February

Re: [Emc-developers] Future directions of LinuxCNC development, and RTAPI restructuring tutorial

2013-02-06 Thread John Morris
On 02/06/2013 09:45 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: On 2/6/2013 8:15 AM, Eric Keller wrote: will it run a machine on a generic kernel? The closest would be an rt-preempt kernel, is that standard with any distributions ? I will admit to be confused, this discussion doesn't seem to talk about