Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-18 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Andy sorry didnt get this out earlier, had to go out of town for work (yay work :) but yes, there is no acceleration limit while edming ( for heidenhain sink eroders, i doubt you'll find as much internal info from other mfctrs ) some may say that ignoring acc is just wrong but thats not from

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread Robert Ellenberg
Andy, I agree, they are two separate problems. I just wanted to answer both questions in one place since they came up here. My G15/G16 example is very similar to G28 and G30, but the difference would be that the retract would happen immediately and automatically on abort of a program (vs at a

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread Robert Ellenberg
Very interesting stuff! I have some ideas for how to implement a more EDM-appropriate reverse run mechanism based on what you describe. Here's a short list of new features we would need to address your concerns 1) Retract-to-setpoint-on-abort modal code. If a retract point is set, the machine

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread andy pugh
On 11 April 2015 at 16:13, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: You may find that the adaptive feedrate idea is very wrong for edm. I think that the adaptive feed pin was introduced for wire EDM, and if it doesn't work properly for that then it ought to change. so, imo the adaptive feed

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 April 2015 at 16:17, Robert Ellenberg rwe...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Retract-to-setpoint-on-abort modal code. If a retract point is set, the machine would automatically retract to that position on abort. Abort would also clear this set point. Perhaps this pair of G codes could work (chosen

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Robert, thanks for looking into it On 04/14/2015 10:17 AM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: Very interesting stuff! I have some ideas for how to implement a more EDM-appropriate reverse run mechanism based on what you describe. Here's a short list of new features we would need to address your concerns

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 April 2015 at 23:26, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: yes, seems true. i hope your view of the time sale for reversals is at most millisecs. the immediate velocity has nothing to do with the previous, there is no velocity smoothing. I remain confused by this. If adaptive feed

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 04/14/2015 11:02 AM, andy pugh wrote: sorry andy still working my way thru these posts, and i am slow On 11 April 2015 at 16:13, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: You may find that the adaptive feedrate idea is very wrong for edm. I think that the adaptive feed pin was introduced

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread TJoseph Powderly
g30 g30.1? interesting when combines with retract and i see the intermediate point would be easy ( the rufpoint might be an intermediate point from the cone surface towards the startpoint above the workpiece. i really have to do some drawings :| thx for the reminder about G30 tomp tjtr33 On

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-14 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 04/14/2015 05:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 14 April 2015 at 23:26, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: yes, seems true. i hope your view of the time sale for reversals is at most millisecs. the immediate velocity has nothing to do with the previous, there is no velocity smoothing. I

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-12 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Gene, Yes the cut is in the X axis, A Z only edm is not worth cnc it has to cut in any direction, circles in any plane. This machine is 4 axis XYZC, and huge. the cut itself was a .02x.375rib cut an inch 'deep', radially into 72 positions of ID of turbine ring. These are heat expansion slots.

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 April 2015 09:47:20 TJoseph Powderly wrote: Gene, Yes the cut is in the X axis, A Z only edm is not worth cnc it has to cut in any direction, circles in any plane. This machine is 4 axis XYZC, and huge. the cut itself was a .02x.375rib cut an inch 'deep', radially into 72

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-12 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Gene i cnat show pix of the actual machine and parts ( proprietary) but here's edm using linuxcnc to position ( pose) and hal to cut http://videobin.org/+6cw/786.html ^^^ no need to join here either, regards tomp On 04/12/2015 10:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Sometime, you might describe how noisy

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Sorry Gene, opens for others, i had it tested by different people, np no need to join anything, open to anyone given the url. heres another version you might try http://ibin.co/1xzMzQKBwggW regards tomp tjtr33 On 04/11/2015 12:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 11 April 2015 11:13:01

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 April 2015 11:13:01 TJoseph Powderly wrote: resending, no attachment using url instead https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbmd0cij2ml9knn/edmGapSignal-vs-XpositionOve rTime.jpg?dl=0 This is not a viewer friendly site TomP. It opens the jpeg, and goes into a loop displaying the join

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 April 2015 22:22:51 TJoseph Powderly wrote: yes Gene this is imagebin http://ibin.co/1xzMzQKBwggW thx tomp Other than the extra magnification, I had to shrink it to less than 50% to get it all on my screen, it works perfectly. And there was no advertising, which is always

[Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread TJoseph Powderly
resending, no attachment using url instead https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbmd0cij2ml9knn/edmGapSignal-vs-XpositionOverTime.jpg?dl=0 Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Reverse Run Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:07:06 -0500 From: TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com To: EMC

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread TJoseph Powderly
gene, you're right dropbox was suggested to me when the msg bounced 1st time i finally got a tester that never used dropbox and found he saw same as you will use imagebin like i always did before thx for catching this tomp

Re: [Emc-developers] Fwd: Re: Reverse Run

2015-04-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 April 2015 19:51:08 TJoseph Powderly wrote: gene, you're right dropbox was suggested to me when the msg bounced 1st time i finally got a tester that never used dropbox and found he saw same as you will use imagebin like i always did before thx for catching this tomp I am