Re: Surge Test Question

2001-05-31 Thread John Woodgate
tfskx...@leco.com, brian_ku...@leco.com inimitably wrote: When troubleshooting surge problems on products we often see the surge pulse to be much higher after the line filter (testing the AC Mains with Line-Earth surge pulses according to EN61000-4-5). Can someone explain the science behind

Re: Surge Test Question

2001-05-31 Thread David_L_Tarnowski
Brian, Seeing higher surge voltages after the mains filter may be due to resonance and the Q of the circuit. In short, the filter might be creating a tuned circuit for the frequencies containted in the surge waveform. Keep in mind that the surge itself could

BT labs question

2001-05-31 Thread Gary McInturff
Can anyone give me a completive advantage reason for using BT Labs versus the multitude of other compliance marks. I don't recall ever having a problem or even a stated preference for them, but got a new sales guys insisting we have to do it, and at the moment I have no burning desire to

Re: FCC contact for railroad equipment

2001-05-31 Thread RON_CHERNUS
Hi, Try Dayton T. Brown in NY, they do RR gear. R. Thomas Egelandsdal, Sales Engineer phone: 613-244-6237 tegelands...@daytonbrown.com fax: 631-589-3648 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion

Dome Structure - Machinery Directive?

2001-05-31 Thread rbusche
My company designs and manufactures visual systems for use in simulation and training. Aside from the computers, projectors and other electronic devices used with these systems (which are CE marked), we also deliver these visual systems with some type of visual environment such as a dome. This

FCC contact for railroad equipment

2001-05-31 Thread Beard, Susan (TRANS, GEHH)
Could someone provide me with a contact within the FCC (or any other authorized agencies) that deals with FCC rules applicable to railroad devices (locomotive and wayside)? Thanks in advance, Susan H. Beard 321-435-7762 Fax 321-435-7957 susan.be...@gehh.ge.com

RE: EN60950 - Changes between 1992 2000 Editions

2001-05-31 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
Hi John, I haven't seen it on any agency websites in soft form but I have seen a cross referencing index in print about a year ago. If you have a contact at one of the agencies you might be able to get a copy. If any agency participants on this forum have the go-ahead to share such an index,

Secondary Grounding

2001-05-31 Thread georgea
The Product Safety standards for ITE are generally based on the single fault rule. That is, the device can withstand a single fault and still be safe. If a Class I (earth grounded design) device loses its earth ground path, for whatever reason, internal or external, this is a single fault,

RE: EN60950 - Changes between 1992 2000 Editions

2001-05-31 Thread Massey, Doug C.
Hi John - check out http://www.ul.com/ite/60950Analysis_05_07_01.PDF for UL's Certification Impact Analysis of the new standard. Doug Massey LXE, Inc. -Original Message- From: Allen, John [mailto:john.al...@uk.thalesgroup.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:12 AM To: 'EMC-PSTC'

RE: Secondary Grounding

2001-05-31 Thread jrbarnes
Martin, I agree with Peter about designing even Class I (grounded) power supplies with Class II (double-insulated) internal construction. Our Product Safety folks require this, and have required it going back to our IBM Lexington days. The grounding of wall outlets can not be trusted in many

RE: UL Style Cable

2001-05-31 Thread WOODS
I can comment on the CM series cables. They are specified in the National Electrical Code for Communications applications. CM is the general construction, but has limits as to where it can be used in the building. CMR is designed for use inside walls (R = Risers) and CMP is designed for use in

Fw: EMI from Electrical wheelchairs

2001-05-31 Thread Darren Pearson
Francois, I have previously tested to the European standard for wheelchairs, EN12184, the emissions section in this was the same as en55022, unfortunately I can not remember which class, but the emissions coming of the chairs was not that high and normally below the limits. It was normally

Re: EN60945

2001-05-31 Thread John Woodgate
5ba039bec9de14488076e22675ba91fb307...@hq7.pcmail.ingr.com, Griffith, Monty J mjgri...@ingr.com inimitably wrote: Does anyone know what the vibration requirements for this standard are? (Sine,half Sine, triangle, frequency and amplitude, how many G's the equipment must withstand) I also saw

UL Style Cable

2001-05-31 Thread Zohar Zosmanovich
Hi, 1) UL approved communication/computer/data cables marked with UL Style (style 2464, style 2919, Style 2990). - Where can I find more information about each cable style (I tried the UL Web Site)? - Does cable style specify cable impedance? 2) Short explanation of cable types CM, CMR,

EN60950 - Changes between 1992 2000 Editions

2001-05-31 Thread Allen, John
Hi Folks The requirements of the various clauses have been re-arranged between these two editions, so does anyone know of any guides or cross-references as to how the requirements have actually moved around? Thanks in advance. John Allen Thales Defence Communications Division Bracknell UK

EN60945

2001-05-31 Thread Griffith, Monty J
Does anyone know what the vibration requirements for this standard are? (Sine,half Sine, triangle, frequency and amplitude, how many G's the equipment must withstand) I also saw where it was equal to MIL-STD-1399, is that true? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!! Monty Griffith Test

RE: Secondary Grounding

2001-05-31 Thread Peter Merguerian
Martin, The best design method in case of a mains ground failure is to design your equipment to meet double or reinforced insulation throughout. That means your equipment will still be considered a Class I product but you have designed it to meet the more stringent requirements for double or

Re: Secondary Grounding

2001-05-31 Thread John Woodgate
of08958f39.0dda511c-on88256a5c.007a1...@pe-c.com, marti...@appliedbiosystems.com inimitably wrote: In order to avoid test failures during a single fault condition where the primary ground is removed, what design methods can be used to add a second ground to the system so that a ground is still

Re: Ethernet baluns

2001-05-31 Thread Ralph Cameron
Paolo: I wonder if you could suffer a little line loss and match the balun with a resistive minimum loss pad and use 50 ohm connecotrs?. That way you could minimiz reflections and possiby improve EMC? My two sents worth. Ralph Cameron EMC Culting and Suppression of Consumer Electronics (After

Wiltron 9361B

2001-05-31 Thread Dwight Hunnicutt
Test folks- Anyone out there have a Wiltron 9361B signaling test set? Does the manual include calibration instructions? We have a unit with no manual, and wonder if it's worth having it calibrated. It comes in handy when doing dial-pulse compatibility testing. Thanks Dwight