Re: EMC Directive

2002-08-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Juhasz wrote (in <2A1845F4CDE8D511B4400090279C703BFB6A53@BCTEXC10>) about 'EMC Directive' on Wed, 21 Aug 2002: >I believe that my understanding is the correct one. I tried to locate it in >the EMC >Directive itself but I can't seem to find it. Am I incorrect? Your

Re: R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?

2002-08-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that w w wrote (in <2002082118211 9.9182.qm...@web14911.mail.yahoo.com>) about 'R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?' on Wed, 21 Aug 2002: >Hello Group, > >1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past >discussions, devices that can fall under two EU >Directives: > > >examples: >Lap

Re: Fwd: R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?

2002-08-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that w w wrote (in <2002082118463 5.31998.qm...@web14912.mail.yahoo.com>) about 'Fwd: R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?' on Wed, 21 Aug 2002: >Note: forwarded message attached. > >OopsQuestion is > >Is this correct, the scenario I proposed? No, or probably no. See my response

RE: Emissions "quick test"

2002-08-21 Thread Bill Morse
Every person working in the EMC field has their own techniques when dealing will emissions issues. Mostly based on past experiences, product type, what tools they have handy or can afford plus the political atmosphere where they work. I am no exception, part of my list of tools include: EMCO 314

Re: IEC 60707 v UL 94 flammability ratings

2002-08-21 Thread John Allen
Hi Folks Just a few points to remember (and provided my memory serves me correctly!) for any one wanting UL Listing of the end-use product in which Printed Wiring Boards are used. [These will be familiar to people who haev UL/CSA experience, but may come as shock to those who do not!] a) The tes

Re: EMC Directive

2002-08-21 Thread Joe P Martin
John, Article 7 in the Directive discusses using national standards to meet the protection requirements of the Directive. The Directive does not go into detail on DOW's of the standards. Take a look at the "Guide to the implementation of directives based on the New Approach and the Global Appr

RE: R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?

2002-08-21 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
To kro...@yahoo.com I think one premise of this list server is that folks participating identify themselves.somehow kro...@yahoo.com leaves a bit to be desired. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal Dell Computer Corp. -Original Message- From: w w [mailto:kro...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August

RE: EMC Directive

2002-08-21 Thread Gert Gremmen
Partially Wrong. The only reference you will have to use in Europe with the Compliance matters and standards is the published list of Harmonized Standards . Dates (DoW) printed in the standard itself may or may not be the same but are irrelevant in CE Europe. The reason for this is that standard

Korea and China - Thanks

2002-08-21 Thread pfitzgibbon
Hello everyone. I want to thank everybody who sent me information on the list and privately. Fortunately for me this issue went away fast as it came up and I was told I don't need to pursue this any further for now. It looked like I was going to have big headaches - what ever would we do

RE: EMC Directive

2002-08-21 Thread richwoods
John you are correct and your friend is not. You can find the Commission's explaination at the following site. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/emcguide.ht m Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: John Juhasz

Fwd: R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?

2002-08-21 Thread w w
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Radar Detectors, R&TTE standards

2002-08-21 Thread w w
Hello again, Forgot to ask, can someone refer me which EN 300/301-XXX would be applicable for radar detecors? Thanks in advance. W W __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

R&TTE and E-Mark applicable?

2002-08-21 Thread w w
Hello Group, 1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past discussions, devices that can fall under two EU Directives: examples: Laptop's used in vehicle (E-Mark requirements) and non-vehicle (CE-Mark requirements)environments. or Radio devices used in vehicles (E-Mark & CE Mark/R&TTE) w

Re: Emissions "quick test"

2002-08-21 Thread Joe P Martin
Lisa, If you are just interested in "sniffing" out emissions, Credence Technologies manufactures a probe with a built in low noise amplifier. You can use this probe without a spectrum analyzer to "sniff" out emissions. However, unless you connect the probe to a spectrum analyzer, you can not de

RE: IEC 60707 v UL 94 flammability ratings

2002-08-21 Thread Collins, Jeffrey
Hi Constantin, I would also find this information helpful for future reference. Could you fax this over to me also? Thanks in advance, Jeffrey Collins Sr. HW Engineering Manager EMC/ NEBS/ Safety/ Reliability CIENA Core Switching Division 10480 Ridgeview Court, Cupertino, CA. 95014 (408) 366

EMC Directive

2002-08-21 Thread John Juhasz
I know this has come up before, but I need to quote chapter and verse. In a conversation with an acquaintance of mine, the EMC Directive became a topic with DoW and use of superceded standards for presumption of conformity becoming a contentious area. I maintain the following understanding: A pr

RE: FCC Part15

2002-08-21 Thread John Juhasz
Thanks to all who responded to my query. The sections are: 15.107 for Conducted Emissions and 15.109 for Radiated Emissions. John A. Juhasz GE Interlogix Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY > -Original Message- > From: John Juhasz > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:19 PM > To:

RE: Taiwan and China approvals?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Merguerian
Patrick Hi! Your subject states "Taiwan and China approvals" but your message specifies "Korea and China approvals". I asume it's Korea and China that you ar4e interested in. TUV Rheinland of North America is very helpful in obtaining approvals in the shotest possible time. Please contact TU

RE: IEC 60707 v UL 94 flammability ratings

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Merguerian
Brian, First part of UL3101-1, The Standard for Electrical Equipment for Laboratory Use, has the Deviations Section. Paragraph F.4.3. states: "Flame ratings of UL94V-0, V-1, V-2 are equivalent to the designations of IEC 707 FV0, FV1, and FV2, respectively." Regards, This e-mail message may cont

RE: Emissions "quick test"

2002-08-21 Thread John Juhasz
Lisa, At minimum you really should have a spectrum analyzer, but that's my opinion. For a good 'homemade' probe try Doug Smith's web site. http://emcesd.com/ Scroll down the page. Good luck. John A. Juhasz GE Interlogix Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: lisa

RE: IEC 60707 v UL 94 flammability ratings

2002-08-21 Thread Constantin Bolintineanu
Dear Brian, The Canadian Standard CAN/CSA -C22.2 No.0.17 -92 offers within the Appendix D a so called "Flame Tests Equivalency Table" that gives the information for which you are looking for. If you want, give me your Fax number and I will fax it to your attention. Respectfully yours, Constant

Re: Question on highest frequency used

2002-08-21 Thread Cortland Richmond
But do note that the Part 15 revision of July 2002 does add radar detectors as an exception to the 960 MHz limit. Cortland --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: h

IEC 60707 v UL 94 flammability ratings

2002-08-21 Thread Brian McAuliffe
Can UL 94 V-1, V-2 etc ratings be regarded as equivalent, more stringent or less stringent than IEC 60707 FV-1, FV-2 etc. ? Brian McAuliffe MCA Compliance Solutions Ltd Unit 2 Lissane Business Park|Clarecastle|Co.Clare|Ireland w: www.mcac.ie e: i...@mcac.ie t: +353 (0)65 6823452 m: +353 (0)87 2

Re: Emissions "quick test"

2002-08-21 Thread Alan E Hutley
Try Laplace www.laplace.co.uk Cheers Alan E Hutley EMC Compliance Journal www.compliance-club.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Emissions "quick test" > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a " down- and- dirty" , inexpensive method or eq

Re: Question on highest frequency used

2002-08-21 Thread Wan Juang Foo
Some things are not so obivious, take the case of that of VSAT (very small aperture satellite terminals ) receivers and that of radar detectors. That's when an unintentional source should be mixed with the LO and re-radiate out as a spurious response. Radar detectors typically operate in freque

Re: Question on highest frequency used

2002-08-21 Thread Jacob Schanker
Charles: Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't Part 15.101(b) which reads: "(b) Only those receivers that operate (tune) within the frequency range of 30-960 MHz and CB receivers are subject to the authorizations shown in paragraph (a) of this section. However, receivers indicated as being s

Re: Emissions "quick test"

2002-08-21 Thread Ravinder Ajmani
Lisa, Com Power sells complete pre-compliance system with an inexpensive spectrum analyzer, pre-amplifier, and a set of three probes. Regards, Ravinder PCB Development and Design Department IBM Corporation Email: ajm...@us.ibm.com

Re: Taiwan and China approvals?

2002-08-21 Thread Chun Kim
Hello Patrick and Group, By 'optical networking type products', I'm assuming your equipment incorporates OC-3 thru OC-192 type interfaces. Korea: Telecom products, including those that incorporate optical interfaces, require telecom type approval and certification by the RRL (Radio Research Lab