Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. I guess I’ll try the Canadian
listings when I run into this problem, which is not uncommon.
Regarding mfr responsibility, our own Xantrex listings had this problem at one
time, and when I discovered it I immediately asked UL to correct it on all our
I don't want to get too deep into this, but when discussing
intergovernmental documents such as this, it is important to look into
the details, and to note the differences between a treaty, an agreement
and an arrangement. These are three different types of documents, with
various levels of
You can obtain an unofficial English translation of the requirements at this
link on the RRL website:
http://www.rrl.go.kr/join/databoard/law/view.jsp?lw_type=4
http://www.rrl.go.kr/join/databoard/law/view.jsp?lw_type=4lw_seq=86
lw_seq=86
Select the Download link next to Technical Requirements
South Korean immunity standard, KN24, is identical to IEC/CISPR 24 standard in
terms of test procedure and methodology.
The only noticeable difference is AC input voltage for EUT is 220V/60Hz
rather than European 230V/50Hz.
Thanks,
Ben
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From: Joe Randolph
From: Dward
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:21 PM
Sorry
The actual question was can a lab accredited by an accreditor
having an MRA with either NVLAP or A2LA do a DoC for the US.
Still the answer would seem to be no as there is no MRA
between the US and the country stated.
So, you're
Hello Peter:
At one time, I addressed this problem by obtaining
complementary certification, both as IT and as MED
(non-patient), for a printer.
After that, we didn't do any more printer MED
certifications as medical customers simply did not
require or request the MED certification.
Sorry
The actual question was can a lab accredited by an accreditor having an MRA
with either NVLAP or A2LA do a DoC for the US. Still the answer would seem
to be no as there is no MRA between the US and the country stated.
Thanks
Dennis Ward
Evaluation Engineer
American TCB
Certification
HI Peter
But that was not the question. The question was can an Indian lab accredited
by a US accreditor such as A2LA or NVLAP do a DoC for the US. The answer
would be no since there is no MRA between the US and India.
Thanks
Dennis Ward
Evaluation Engineer
American TCB
Certification
From: Dward ATCB
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:37 PM
This goes along with what I mentioned earlier - i.e. it
really may not matter what agreements accrediting bodies have
with each other, it only matters what agreements governments
have with each other in their certification systems.
Hello All:
I had the impression that South Korea imposes a conducted RF immunity test
that is either identical to or substantially similar to the one in EN 55024 (3
VRMS, 150 KHz to 80 MHz), which calls out IEC 61000-4-6 for the test procedure.
I would appreciate it if someone could clarify how
This goes along with what I mentioned earlier – i.e. it really may not
matter what agreements accrediting bodies have with each other, it only
matters what agreements governments have with each other in their
certification systems. Consequently, while accrediting bodies may agree that
the like
FYI. Here are two slides excerpted from the last week's 2007 IEEE
International Symposium on EMC, presented by Mr. Hurst of the FCC:
Slide 25:
MRA Status - Phase I
Phase I (mutual acceptance of tst data) is operational with the following
countries:
Australia
Canada
Chinese Taipei
European
Dennis and K. -
What the APLAC agreement seems to be is a MRA between accreditation
bodies to accept another accreditors ability to accredit a lab. Like
any MRA, it's scope may be limited and you'll need to read the agreement
to understand its extent. However, I don't think the governments
Hello Team,
We are designing an IT equipment (Printer/scanner) that not only can be used
in an office, but also can be used in medical environment. Here the product
could be in doctor or nurses offices but by no means near any patient or in
contact with a patient. My question is that does the
In message
be3336be85968d49be01e66d6e365b1e02160...@sjc1amfpew01.am.sanm.corp,
dated Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Tarver, Peter peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com
writes:
[In the late 1980s, I physically handled some reports that were typed
on what seemed little better than tissue paper and were obviously
Under 2.948 of the FCC rules CFR47 it states For laboratories outside the
United States, the name of the mutual recognition agreement or arrangement
under which the accreditation of the laboratory is recognized. However, it
is my understanding that this is referring to a government to government
Hi All,
At the risk of dodging eggs and tomatoes ... I will add my thoughts to this
subject:
To supplement the info that Peter gave:
It is true that not all Listings published by UL contain the model number
information. This is a choice UL makes on a category by category basis.
From: jeff collins
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 5:00 PM
Can anyone recommend a Transformer manufacturer that makes
custom medical grade transformers?
Speaking of on-line databases, try searching on UL's category named
Transformers, Construction Only - Component (XORU2). Add a keyword for
From: Brian O'Connell
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:01 AM
UL's on-line services are, in my opinion, the best in the
business (but do not get me started on their 'other' business
processes).
'Other' processes aside, I agree. CSA's runs a distant second, mostly
because of how it's
Dear Experts,
NVLAP of USA is a signatory of the APLAC MRA (Mutual Recognition
Agreement). NABL (National Accreditation Board for Testing and Calibration
Laboratories) of India also is a signatory of APLAC MRA. A laboratory is
accredited by NABL India for FCC Part 15 18 measurements as per
Jim -
With only a few exceptions, UL does not identify Listed products by model
designation. If you refer to the Guide Card for KCXS, linked to just above
the company name, you will find the following near the bottom:
The Listing Mark of Underwriters Laboratories Inc. on the product is the only
In message 001201c7c7b1$cb3119c0$d600a...@tamuracorp.com, dated Mon,
16 Jul 2007, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes:
All agencies should have two web designs: a hard-core
OOOH, bold! (;-)
I'm surprised that got past the Net-Nannies!
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try
Good People,
The following does not represent the policies or opinions of my employer,
nor of my dog, and certainly not of my cat.
I agree with Mr. Eckert. Give credit where it is due.
UL's on-line services are, in my opinion, the best in the business (but do
not get me started on their 'other'
I have worked with the UL on-line certifications database for quite a while
and I find this problem to exist on only a small percentage of the
Listings. Because of the number of UL files, the total number of errors
may be large, but it does seem to be only a small fraction of the total.
I do not
Hi All,
Our test lab is using a Jap make Surge Simulator. The maker only sells RJ11
CDN and none for RJ45. We were told to inject the Surge wave directly to the
RJ45 lines.
Has anybody done that and what are the safety (or other) precautions to look
out for.
Should I buy another make CDN
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