[PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread IUnwin
Dear Group, Consider a product that is intended to be connected to mains power via a non- detachable power cord that is fed into the equipment through a cable gland (compression bushing) fitted to the equipment enclosure. Neither the power cord or the cable gland are supplied by the manufacturer

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread John Cotman
Presumably, since you talk about an installer, this is a fixed product, not a stationary or portable one? If it's an installation, why is not just connected to fixed wiring ( by whatever means the local safety regs require), rather than having a flexible supply cord which emerges from the

[PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Pawson, James
Bit of a regulatory puzzler here, please bear with me. Testing an intentional radiator to FCC 15.247. Spurious emissions allowed to be -20 dBc except in the 15.205 restricted bands where the general radiated emissions limits in 15.209. Radiated emissions limits: 216 ~ 960 MHz = 200 uV/m, 960

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message of41dc1b7b.47d772a4-on802579a5.00361540-802579a5.0038f...@servomex.com, dated Wed, 15 Feb 2012, iun...@servomex.com writes: Given that no power cable or cable gland is shipped with the product, for the equipment to be approved under IEC/EN 61010-1 Ed.3 are the requirements of

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Grace Lin
James, FCC published a new DTS procedure, FCC KDB 558074 D01 DTS Meas Guidance v01 https://apps.fcc.gov/kdb/GetAttachment.html?id=39668, on January 18, 2012. If you are able to connect the antenna port of the device under test to the instrument (spectrum analyzer, through attenuators if needed),

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Pawson, James
Hi Grace, That's a very useful document for measuring the RF path, thanks for the info. The issue we have is that the RF path is not the only path for the emissions at 960MHz from the equipment under test so measuring just the conducted output into the antenna would not give the whole picture.

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Heller
Are you measuring according to DA 00-705? That should help. Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651-778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 = From: Pawson, James james.paw...@echostar.com To: 'Grace Lin' graceli...@gmail.com Cc:

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
Many high current products are shipped without power cords mainly because of the wide variety of plugs and local electric code requirements for the cordage. We ship our products with North American cords and plugs just out of our own convenience but we know that in a very high number of

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz - conducted measurements would not be helpful

2012-02-15 Thread Rene Charton/Twn/TUV
I think conducted measurements would not be helpful anyway, because in this case the use of a conservative antenna gain value is required. (see page 8 of 558074 D01 DTS Meas Guidance v01) Kind regards Rene

[PSES] AW: Wanted: Screened Room

2012-02-15 Thread Kluender, Christian
Hi James, take a look here: http://www.emscreen.de/index_E.htm emscreen is a part of ETS Lindgren since last year. Best regards Christian Von: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012 17:50 An:

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB01C6BD31@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: Many high current products are shipped without power cords mainly because of the wide variety of plugs and local electric code requirements for

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Pawson, James
Hi Bob, This is a Wi-Fi product which I believe is DSSS and not frequency hopping. I will review the document anyway but will it be relevant do you think? Many thanks James From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: 15 February 2012 13:44 To:

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
Not living in Europe I am most interested in this topic. Please educate me. When you purchase an electric dryer or range in Europe, do they come with a flexible power cord? Does it also come with a plug, if so what plug? For instance, in North America for a 30 amp device there are 11 different

Re: [PSES] FCC - Intentional Radiators, Restricted Bands and 960 MHz

2012-02-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
James looking at your picture: Is that what the 15.247 limit should do Yes - the limit line is essentially castellated between your -20dBc and the applicable level in 15.209(a). The 200dBuV/m limit doesn't apply to your equipment below the 960MHz transition point - the -20dBc limit does. As an

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN 61010-1, Ed.3 and non-detachable power cords

2012-02-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB01C6BDAA@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: When you purchase an electric dryer or range in Europe, do they come with a flexible power cord? A dryer, normally yes, a range is permanently

[PSES] Compliance Engineer Consultant Opening

2012-02-15 Thread DG Clayton
A major TV production equipment manufacturer needs an outside safety consultant. This manufacturer is located in the Grass Valley /Nevada City about 60 miles northeast of Sacramento. The position requires experience with IEC60950 and the ability to interface with Intertek (ITS) for safety

[PSES] Possible Symposium Date Change

2012-02-15 Thread Doug Nix
Dear List Subscribers, The PSES Conferences Committee has been asked to do some research into potential dates for the annual ISPCE (IEEE Symposium on Product Compliance Engineering). As you know, we have traditionally had our flagship conference in October each year. We have had numerous

[PSES] EN/IEC 61010-1 Ed. 3 - Color Coding

2012-02-15 Thread Doug Powell
All, It seems there is a change in 61010-1 regarding the exclusive use to green / yellow color coded parts. In the past these colors were reserved solely for the use of the protective conductor, and protective bonding devices. This is generally true of safety standards based in or harminozed to

Re: [PSES] Transient and Surge Test per ISO7637-2

2012-02-15 Thread Steve O'Steen
John/all, In the process of my research on this topic I've uncovered several references and links to a Commission Recommendation http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:098:0024 :0027:EN:PDF This recommendation addresses Mobile Communication Services on Aircraft

[PSES] EMC Newsletter Delivered - Winter 2012

2012-02-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi All, I just mailed my free Winter 2012 EMC Design Newsletter out to all current subscribers. This issue contains a review article on the Beehive wide band preamp I use, the 2012 seminar schedule and a DIY article on building your own quick dirty current probes. There's also information