[PSES] China Energy Label: List of mandatory products

2013-07-15 Thread H.Köster
Hello group, Where can I find the latest list of mandatory products that must be marked with the China Energy Label (CEL). Best regards Helmut Koester PSi Engineering GmbH mailto:h.koes...@psi-engineering.de - This message is

[PSES] 答复: China Energy Label: List of mandatory products

2013-07-15 Thread Paul Wang
Hi Helmut, The list has been updated for 9 times and will still be updated timely. There are totally 29 products require China Energy Label now. I have the list but it's in Chinese. So maybe you can let me know your product and I can check whether it requires CEL. Paul Wang (王卫波) GM

[PSES] AW: ´ð¸´: China Energy Label: List of mandatory products

2013-07-15 Thread H.Köster
Hello Paul, We are interested to know if printers are inside this list of mandatory products for CEL marking. Regards Helmut Koester PSi Engineering GmbH mailto:h.koes...@psi-engineering.de -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Im Auftrag von

[PSES] R: [PSES] 答复: China Energy Label: List of mandatory products

2013-07-15 Thread Conforti Daniele
Hi all, please give a look here: http://www.energylabel.gov.cn/en/Resources/list-1.html Daniele Conforti Indesit Company -Messaggio originale- Da: Paul Wang [mailto:paulw...@gmcompliance.com] Inviato: lunedì 15 luglio 2013 15:15 A: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Oggetto: [PSES] 答复:

[PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Carl Newton
Group, I'm in a debate with a lab and a manufacturer that insist that a RTTE device doesn't need to be re-evaluated against a new revision standard when the previous is withdrawn. ETSI EN 300 228 V1.7.1 loses the presumption of conformity in 2014 (December I think). Customer is installing

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Carl, The lab is incorrect. Any product on the market in the EU must meet the current version of standards. If the new one has already been listed, use it. That way you don't have to re-test when the DoW rolls around. You are on the right track. Ghery S. Pettit From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Derby
You are correct Carl. The device always needs to be 'assessed' to the latest 'requirements'. ...and the easiest way to do this, is to 'test' to the latest 'standard'. If they are following the harmonised standard route, then they will need to show compliance with EN 300 328 V1.8.1 before

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000c01ce8174$b2b997e0$182cc7a0$@gmail.com, dated Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Carl Newton emcl...@gmail.com writes: I?m in a debate with a lab and a manufacturer that insist that a RTTE device doesn?t need to be re-evaluated against a new revision standard when the previous is withdrawn.  

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
Carl You're correct, and there's no such thing as certification for the EU. The relevant part of the Directive are: Article 10 Conformity assessment procedures 4. Where a manufacturer has applied the harmonised standards referred to in Article 5(1), radio equipment not within the scope of

Re: [PSES] Chambers for link budget testing

2013-07-15 Thread Grasso, Charles
Hello Brian - It turns out that chambers used for emissions testing are not suitable for antenna/rx sensitivity type of measurements due to excessive reflections. OATS and chambers are considered suitable for EMC work if the chamber calibration is met with a +/- 4db spread for emissions and

Re: [PSES] Grandfathered ETSI standards for CE Marking?

2013-07-15 Thread Carl Newton
Thanks all. I know that this is compliance 101, but I needed to do a sanity check in case there's a clause in the RTTED that I'm missing. I've reviewed it and don't see any such thing (article 5). John- you're absolutely correct. I used DoW because I can never remember how many cs are in

[PSES] Australian Power Plugs: Require Molded Approval Number?

2013-07-15 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Power plugs for Australian/New Zealand cord-connected equipment must comply with AS/NZS 3112. QUESTION: does the approval number (e.g., V100063) need to be molded onto or otherwise marked on  the plug? This is not required by clause 2.12.1 in my old, 2000 copy of AZ/NZS 3112, but it looks

[PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?

2013-07-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is

Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?

2013-07-15 Thread Nick Williams
The BIS view at the last Machinery Directive Notified Bodies meeting I went to (in May) was that there were unlikely to be any revisions to the Machinery Directive for at least five years. Nick. On 15 Jul 2013, at 23:25, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: In the Machinery

[PSES] 答复: ´ð¸´: China Energy Label: List of mandatory products

2013-07-15 Thread Paul Wang
Hi Helmut, Yes, printer is in the category. It applies to printers powered by 220V 50Hz power grid, print speed less than 70 pages/min and standard size. Paul Wang (王卫波) GM Compliance,Inc.Beijing Office Tel:86-10-58203318 Cell:86-13810026747 -邮件原件- 发件人: H.Köster

Re: [PSES] Australian Power Plugs: Require Molded Approval Number?

2013-07-15 Thread Kevin Richardson
Hi Mike, The ‘approval number’ (e.g. V100063) is a regulatory approval number so the electrical safety regulations specify where and how that must be placed on the device not eth standard called up by the regulations. Although AS/NZS 3112 is called up by the regulations it is a voluntary

Re: [PSES] Australian Power Plugs: Require Molded Approval Number?

2013-07-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1421038395.1290798.1373925947564.javamail.r...@sz0110a.emeryville.ca.mai l.comcast.net, dated Mon, 15 Jul 2013, msherma...@comcast.net writes: QUESTION: does the approval number (e.g., V100063) need to be molded onto or otherwise marked on the plug? This is not required by clause

Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?

2013-07-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac5322b1a...@by2prd0310mb389.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: Does anyone know if the MD anomalies marking the AR on the machine and indicating in the DoC the person authorized to