Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread Pete Perkins
Thanx Gert John for the detailed discussion which supports my original point - both devices need robust filtering to ensure proper application of each. The filter details discussed help fill in the needed insight into what needs to be done. This needs to be

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message 001801d0c4a1$04ae87b0$0e0b9710$@cs.com, dated Wed, 22 Jul 2015, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes: the standards committees are not yet willing to jump into requirements that they don't yet understand and aren't yet ready to deal with. It's not rocket

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
There are a number of issues mentioned and I want to put some side notes here: Interference needs a source and a victim. Sources: * The lowest frequency emitted by any of the 4 problem power conversions is the main switching frequency. * In low power solutions the lowest

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message 001401d0c404$4b1e88f0$e15b9ad0$@cs.com, dated Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes: Product committees need to understand these issues on both the product safety and EMC side and include appropriate requirements In the standards to

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920AEA5@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 22 Jul 2015, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes:   Filter specifications should not be made in 50 ohm environments but in much lower impedance ranges (0.5 -5 Ohms), so the

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920AEA6@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 22 Jul 2015, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: · For the same L value(s) the capacitors of the T-config  are divided by 2, so half the  touch current. That filter

Re: [PSES] GFCI Nuisance Tripping

2015-07-22 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Thanks John, Very good points added. * For the same L value(s) the capacitors of the T-config are divided by 2, so half the touch current. * The input (mains side) capacitor of the PI shunts and increases mains RF current, so contributes to parasitic RF current in the

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