FYI, the latest CMS Law-Now report on progress of the legislation
https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2022/11/the-uk-government-will-review-the
-broadcast-rules-on-listed-sporting-events?cc_lang=en
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Lauren Crane <1afd08519f18-dmarc-r
order.
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Tom Smith
Sent: 14 November 2022 17:37
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SI amendment providing UKCA label deadline extension.
An announcement was made this morning extending allowance for using the CE
marking for an additional
-biased comment”, just an
observation on what is actually going on in some member countries across the EU
!
John E Allen
W. London, UK.
From: Glyn Payne <0d283c0acebb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 09 November 2022 17:51
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re:
John
I’m sorry but I’ve never been part of the “network” monitoring the UKCA and
have not followed it’s “story”, and therefore am absolutely unable to give or
assist with the sort of presentation you propose.
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: John Mcbain
Sent: 08 November 2022 21
ance (for which you would, of course, pay!) but the Law-Now
service itself is free - and well-worth subscribing to if my many years of
using it is anything to go by
(NB: I have ABSOLUTELY NO affiliation with the company or any of the paid-for
services it claims to provide!)
John E Allen
W. London
with what the media says (as you
may have noted from my previous comments!) – especially where it relates to
what politicians and some lawmakers say/do !
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Chas Grasso
Sent: 07 November 2022 20:59
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Intertek
oportion of what is a
unfortunately large aging and poory-educated segment of the population (who
still remember/dream of the old British Empire!) – and can you the possible
parallels “elsewhere but closer to home”??
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Richard Nute large
Sent: 07 November 2022 19
n
of the specific legislation. Just the announcement that the UK intends to
submit legislation for the easement.
Thank-you,
…Richard Georgerian
Compliance Engineer
HID Global
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org
<mailto:09cc677f395b-dmar
Correction – IEC 620/60620 should of course have read IEC 320/60320 – my
failing memory! ☹
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 29 October 2022 20:39
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Measurement of X and Y capacitors for electric
rate to redesign products to
reduce/eliminate the shock issue because it was definitely not
“customer-friendly”, even if relevant product standards were met!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Bill Owsley <00f5a03f18eb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 29 October
A comment from my "impressions only" as to why the requirement exists:
In many parts of the World, a majority of power outlets in household
locations do not include a protective earth/ground contact - and thus any
such connection in connected equipment might induce a false sense of
"security"
the actual compliance data which the engineers then had to provide and
document)!
Therefore, I don’t think that the TRF itself is the place to start for
inexperienced companies and their engineers!
John E Allen
W. London UK
PS: I’ve said the above before on this forum – but I think
sible “real life” situations before you fire
the big guns!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Douglas E Powell
Sent: 24 August 2022 23:22
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] High Touch Current and GFCIs
Brian,
Depending on the class of that circuit breaker, the a
generally been very good.
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Scott Xe
Sent: 20 August 2022 16:51
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes
Dan,
It appears to me that Bosch's products are well designed and made in general
and agree to have high
For anyone who has not seen this or something similar!
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Intertek
Sent: 03 August 2022 12:58
To: john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program
The UK Government has announced its intention
.pdf
Apologies for the error of omission!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: John Woodgate
Sent: 28 April 2022 11:31
To: john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PSES] UK plug adaptors with fuse?
That standard is indeed withdrawn and should not be used. BS 1363-5 is v
to cover specific aspects of design &
construction.
Again, the ANSI webstore site gives helpful detail,
https://webstore.ansi.org/preview-pages/BSI/preview_30288272.pdf
Obviously you can buy elsewhere, including BSI’s own website here
https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/standards/!
Jo
llow each network to
use the least used in that area of the building.
NB: might need to get the paid-for version of the App to ensure it can display
all the relevant WiFi bands!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Charles Grasso
Sent: 02 February 2022 19:45
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE
Correction – correct reference in the quoted Regs is Clause 12 (2) (b) – sorry
for the error
John E Allen
W. London UK
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 26 January 2022 14:48
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] [PSES] CE
13A socket. Suitable
“conversion plugs” are widely available in the UK.
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: scott...@gmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2022 14:39
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE marked products
In general understanding, products bearing CE Mark are free move
Good morning
As above, and so please could one of the staff contact me and arrange to do
that.
Thanks in advance.
John E Allen
W.London, UK
-
This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc
go wrong” – but unfortunately,
that is rarely the case, especially when a company takes the gist of that para
as being “all one has to do is….”
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Douglas Nix <0bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 18 October 2021 16:56
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.
<mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk> ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk
+44(0)1274 911747 | +44(0)7811 139957
2 Wellington Business Park, New Lane, Bradford, BD4 8AL
Registered in England and Wales # 10574298
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 16 October
provide the
contractor /consultant with all the info that should be in the compliance
files -> GIGO situation!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 16 October 2021 10:36
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject:
pliance" regulations & standards.
Most contractors/consultants that are brought into a company for a specific
time/cost constrained compliance project won't know "all of that", and
therefore the company is at risk of signing off on faulty documentation and
leaving themselves open to
Pete (and friends, of course!)
When I downloaded WD6, it was because it was of use “at work” – OTOH, since I
progressed “beyond work” (i.e. I retired – 6 yrs ago!), the need for having an
up-to-date version has become of “less relevance” to me in the UK.
John E Allen
w. London, UK
IIRC – I downloaded that F.O.C from the NEMA website some years ago.
John E Allen
W. London UK
From: Matthew Wilson | GBE
Sent: 07 September 2021 17:37
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] U.S. equivalent to BS 1363...
Hello Ted, that’s great, thank you very much
the “simplest things” are often of considerable
importance in both certification and FUS activities – notably that these should
actually be “formal processes” which must be established and tested, and then
followed and implemented.
John E Allen
W. London, UK.
From: Richard Nute
Sent: 27
Well said!
From: rwell...@wellman.com
Sent: 25 June 2021 21:49
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Friday question
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and
spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted, "Excuse me, can you
” , or, otherwise, you may risk some form of legal action if
“something goes wrong” and damage /environmental damage / injury /death then
ensues – “We never thought that could happen” probably won’t “cut the mustard”
if it comes to a court action, and the penalties may then be very severe.
John E Allen
W
ox 1067
Albany, ORe 97321-0413
503/452-1201
IEEE Life Fellow
IEEE PSES 2020 Distinguished Lecturer
<http://www.researchgate.net/Peter%20Perkins> www.researchgate.net search my
name
<mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org
Entropy ain’t what it used to be
rious agencies which got my contact details from
that site – seems that deleting those a/c’s is considerably more “difficult”
than it should be ☹.
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: John Woodgate <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>
Sent: 04 June 2021 19:56
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV
plex & difficult to
“navigate”. ☹
OTOH, I thought I’d deleted my LinkedIn a/c but I still get a few “job
opportunities” flagged up by various agencies which got my contact details from
that site – seems that deleting those a/c’s is considerably more “difficult”
than it should be ☹.
John
are “now”.
John E Allen
W. London, UK.
From: Dennis Ward <0dbeaa892a40-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 25 May 2021 21:09
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?
Having been in the EMC business now for going
ming and expensive results
(“been there and seen that” – and recounted that here - far too many times!). ☹
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: Richard Nute
Sent: 24 May 2021 19:45
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?
Hi Cha
) and tried to emphasise and
reinforce the need for compliance with their legal obligations – and thus the
need for written, solid and enforceable & legally-binding agreements and
documentation .
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Charlie Blackham
Sent: 06 May 2021 21:09
To: EMC-
ell
over £300 to replace the cables in each of the 200+ kits that they had already
shipped, AND a lot of time & effort to do that!
"Simple" good EMC design practice much earlier on would have saved that company
a LOT of heartache & cash!
John E Allen
W. London, UK.
-Original
Thus a Blue sign indicates a “Mandatory” requirement.
John E Allen
West London, UK
From: Matthew D. Varas
Sent: 05 February 2021 15:57
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Instruction for use symbol...
We went through this recently with one of our products and our NRTL
requirements.
John E Allen
W. London, UK
From: Amund Westin
Sent: 22 November 2020 20:44
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Plastic enclosure manufacturer
Looking for plastic enclosure manufacturers for custom box design. We have
prepared a first 3D drawing, but need help
themselves “suitable applicants”
might actually be worth (saw that quite a few times whilst I was in “gainful
employment”) ☹
PS: that was a “sort of joke” – and certainly not applicable to most/all
members of this forum!
John E Allen
W. London, UK
comprehensively
updated before that PDF version was prepared, because, since then, far more,
and more specific, info has become available via the internet and people in a
huge number of countries???
Therefore, I would, again, treat info in ECA with that proverbial “pinch of
salt”.
John E
inions experessed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
From: John E Allen <09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org
<mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> >
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 3:00 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IE
be a “bit different” to the nominal ones.
John E Allen
West London, UK
From: Scott Aldous <0220f70c299a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: 28 October 2020 21:19
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Electric Current Abroad
Hi Doug,
Have you seen the lis
WHICH “61010 vs 60601” – EU CE requirements OR US/Canadian (OR “somewhere
else”) requirements because they likely “differ in the details”?:)
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: sgbrody
Sent: 21 May 2020 20:16
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] 61010 vs 60601
Fellow gurus
tion
process will become more straightforward.
PS: it might hopefully then also result in the standards being far more
clearly and explicitly worded as the committees realise the "errors of their
ways"
John E Allen
W.London, UK
From: John Woodgate
Sent: 06 May 2020 23:06
T
cal Report formats would be far more
easily and clearly understood by everyone!
John E Allen
W.London, UK.
From: John Woodgate
Sent: 06 May 2020 19:45
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Section 6.4.8 Flammability Confusion
This is the sort of thing that can
You and/or your company may be required to have national security clearance
to the Restricted level (and that requires some form of formal security
vetting) in order to gain access to such documents at least, thats how it
works in the UK.
John E Allen
W. London, UK
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