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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi Charlie,
Please note that Annex I for both Directives lists the essential requirements.
Annex I makes no mention of declarations of conformity (DOCs
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive
2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi John,
Where is it written that Directives aren't valid until ALL member
states have implemented them?
*_ENTER INTO FORCE_*
I note that both
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Sent: 23 March 2015 22:31
To: Charlie Blackham
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and
Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi Charlie,
Please note that Annex I for both Directives lists the essential
requirements
In message 5511840f.4030...@oracle.com, dated Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Monrad
Monsen monrad.mon...@oracle.com writes:
You made an interesting statement. You said I don’t have it
formally, but you can’t legally declare compliance with something
that is not in force at the time you sign it. You made
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi Charlie,
You made an interesting statement. You said I don't have it formally, but you
can't legally declare compliance with something that is not in force at the
time you
Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi John,
Where is it written that Directives aren't valid until ALL member states have
implemented them?
ENTER INTO FORCE
I note that both the Low Voltage Directive and the EMC Directive clearly
states: This directive shall enter into force
Hi John,
Where is it written that Directives aren't valid until ALL member
states have implemented them?
_*ENTER INTO FORCE*_
I note that both the Low Voltage Directive and the EMC Directive clearly
states: This directive _*shall*_ enter into force on the twentieth day
following that of its
In message 551084ae.2040...@oracle.com, dated Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Monrad
Monsen monrad.mon...@oracle.com writes:
Where is it written that Directives aren't valid until ALL member
states have implemented them?
Two things:
1. Directives are instructions to member states to enact national
Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com]
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive
2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hi John,
Where is it written that Directives aren't valid until ALL member
states have
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From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: 17 March 2015 07:53
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
John,
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice the MAY. I'll have to make
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
I’m sorry to be bringing this topic back, but looking at the DoC requirements
for the new EMC Directive, what does this mean?
“4. Object of the declaration (identification
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
In message
64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D385D@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local,
dated Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Kunde, Brian
In message
64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D385D@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local,
dated Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes:
“4. Object of the declaration (identification of apparatus allowing
traceability; it may include a colour image of sufficient clarity where
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
As an outsider to the EU process, all I can do is hope it all gets completed on
time. But, I am skeptical that all the member states and ETSI can get that all
done by the 2016 dates. I
PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
As an outsider to the EU process, all I can do is hope it all gets completed on
time. But, I am skeptical that all
to you reply.
Best regards,Ron PickardSent from my smartphone
-- Original message--From: John WoodgateDate: Tue, Mar 3, 2015 11:19
AMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG;Subject:Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for
EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
In message
In message 000f424e.66f2bca822817...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Tue, 3
Mar 2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes:
For your question, I guess we'll have to wait and see if the member
states and ETSI meet the 2016 dates in those directives.
I meant a bit more than that. What
In message
blupr02mb116f51d9f73a65fbd6eb4c6c1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook
.com, dated Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com
writes:
Picochance? What SI unit is the 'chance' derived from?
1 chance is the time in seconds to vaporize a 1 kg snowball in Hell, at
a
In message 000f424e.6fe8225c75b15...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Tue, 3
Mar 2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes:
I think the EU put the cart before the horse on this one,
metaphorically speaking.
A lot of people think that. In the past, the EU has stopped its official
, 2015 4:26
PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG;Subject:Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for
EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
In message 000f424e.280b0b5d62a60...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Mon, 2 Mar
2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) writes:So, how then would one know that ALL member
Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
In message 000f424e.66f2bca822817...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Tue, 3
Mar 2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes:
For your question, I guess we'll have to wait and see if the member
states and ETSI
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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
If the implementation start date can slide and cannot be known because of
dozens of unknowns things that have
In message
64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D1820@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local,
dated Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes:
If the implementation start date can slide and cannot be known because
of dozens of unknowns things that have to come together, then give us a
(RPQ) [mailto:rpick...@rpqconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
So, how then would one know that ALL member states have implemented
on this one.
I look forward to you reply.
Best regards,Ron PickardSent from my smartphone
-- Original message--From: John WoodgateDate: Mon, Mar 2, 2015 12:59
PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG;Subject:Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for
EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive
In message 000f424e.280b0b5d62a60...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Mon, 2
Mar 2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes:
So, how then would one know that ALL member states have implemented
these directives? Would it be officially announced (OJ?)
I don't know.
or are the 2016
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Maybe the lists are not published yet, because of the following:
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise
: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:48 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive
2014/30/EU and
Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Maybe the lists are not published yet, because of the following
,Ron PickardSent from my smartphone
-- Original message--From: Ronald R. WellmanDate: Mon, Mar 2, 2015
12:22 PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG;Subject:Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards
for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Not my wording. I recommend
In message 000f424e.486384b410ff5...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Mon, 2
Mar 2015, Ron Pickard (RPQ) rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes:
As I believe as Mr. Woodgate pointed out earlier, these new directives
have no legal standing until at least one member state enacts them into
their own legal
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
When you say, applicable from 20 April 2016 does that the date in which we
can start declaring to the new directives or the date in which everything must
be declared by?
If the later
Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Does anyone have a link to the latest list of harmonized standards for the
EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU?
The Europa web page I use to find the link for the latest listing of
harmonized standards does
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Subject: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low
Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Does anyone have a link to the latest list of harmonized standards for the
EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU?
The Europa web page I use to find the link
Does anyone have a link to the latest list of harmonized standards for
the EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU?
The Europa web page I use to find the link for the latest listing of
harmonized standards does not even list the latest revision directives.
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