Re: [PSES] [Bulk Mail] Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-23 Thread Gary McInturff
conformity. Gmac From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [Bulk Mail] Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset IMO the CD-ROM/Cup holder is abuse whereas metal fork is a foreseeable misuse (less people uses plastic fork

Re: [PSES] [Bulk Mail] Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-23 Thread John Woodgate
In message 7582cb4a96cd44a2bcacbfd865b0c...@s-ais-exch01-13.esterline.net, dated Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Gary McInturff gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: So venting more than disagreeing Rich. I get and agree with the goals but I just don?t like picking numbers or definitions out of the air and

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-21 Thread Richard Nute
IMO the CD-ROM/Cup holder is abuse whereas metal fork is a foreseeable misuse (less people uses plastic fork in a hot toaster). In my opinion: 1. Using a CD tray to hold a cup is misuse, because CD tray is used is to hold a CD. 2. Bread stuck in a toaster is an abnormal condition; it

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-21 Thread John Woodgate
In message !!AAAYAJr5t2iPPpBNvSDbfl6YQSzCgAAAEEFTFDNE4rJFjhv9A FhPFAMBAA==@ieee.org, dated Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: Predicting what another person wants to do in a given situation - foreseeing -- is difficult or impossible. It's difficult

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-20 Thread Scott Xe
, October 17, 2014 2:39 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset This reminds me to the following help desk statement: The cup holder on my computer stopped working. https://www.flickr.com/photos/helter-skelter/8385454193/ Reasonable foreseeable misuse

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-20 Thread Scott Xe
something along the lines of not for use for any other purpose... Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Original Message From: Scott Xe Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:51 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Scott Xe Subject: [PSES] Misuse mains

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
In message dfab52bf367549e585664e1e60695...@bn3pr0801mb0979.namprd08.prod.outlook.c om, dated Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com writes: I use my CDs for coasters.   I haven?t seen any warning labels for misuse on the CDsJ Whatever you do, don't put the CDs in

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
In message !!AAAYAJr5t2iPPpBNvSDbfl6YQSzCgAAAEHXLZSlKMctGnquGw LD28+gBAA==@ieee.org, dated Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: Misuse is just that: Using a product for some use other than intended use. What would be the term for those clearly

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread Ed Price
Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset In message !!AAAYAJr5t2iPPpBNvSDbfl6YQSzCgAAAEHXLZSlKMctGnquGw mailto:LD28+gBAA==@ieee.org LD28+gBAA

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
In message 002d01cfead6$33ddab60$9b990220$@cox.net, dated Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Ed Price edpr...@cox.net writes: Misuse creates humor in direct proportion to the degree of outrageous inappropriateness of the action. For instance, activating a pushbutton switch with a hammer is misuse of the

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread Richard Nute
Misuse is just that: Using a product for some use other than intended use. What would be the term for those clearly incorrect actions that are not misuse? Abuse. Best regards, Rich - This message is from the IEEE Product

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread IBM Ken
But DO heat them up and blow bubbles with them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhcmxU-Tvac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvpRlEPbO8 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:30 AM, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message dfab52bf367549e585664e1e606952de@BN3PR0801MB0979.namprd08.

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-18 Thread John Woodgate
In message !!AAAYAJr5t2iPPpBNvSDbfl6YQSzCgAAAEDmA9V0E7VRCrPkBR gNpxNYBAA==@ieee.org, dated Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: What would be the term for those clearly incorrect actions that are not misuse? Abuse. Agreed: I was going through

[PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Scott Xe
We have an audio product that comes with an external power supply. The external power supply uses a detachable cordset. The cordset consists of a 2-pin 16A European Schuko plug, a cable of 0.75mm2 wires and a 10A kettle connector. This cordset is capable of delivering 6A current according to

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Doug Powell
along the lines of not for use for any other purpose... Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01     Original Message   From: Scott Xe Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:51 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Scott Xe Subject: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset We have

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Ted Eckert
[mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:06 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset In recent years many standards have been adding risk assessment to their requirements. A part of this is all about foreseeable misuse.   That said I do

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Richard Nute
of everyday things and his other books. Best regards, Rich -Original Message- From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:06 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset In recent years many standards have been adding risk

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Ted Eckert
are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset Misuse is unique to what you want to do. You use

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Paasche, Dieter
expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset Misuse is unique to what you want to do. You

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Ted Eckert
[mailto:dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:39 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset This reminds me to the following help desk statement: The cup holder on my computer stopped working. https://www.flickr.com/photos/helter-skelter

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
is, and because my employer's compliance person is a stupid reddd neckkk... Brian My employer's compliance person -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Richard Nute
An example I would give would be somebody using a metal fork or knife to remove a piece of bread stuck in a toaster. I would say that bread stuck in a toaster is abnormal toaster operation, not misuse. Bread stuck in a toaster is as common as a paper jam in a printer. Using a tool to remove

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
we non-mechanical engineers always complain to the mechanical engineers to design the machine so that it doesn't jam:) -Dave From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:20 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset An example I

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2014-10-17 Thread Pete Perkins
[mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:20 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset An example I would give would be somebody using a metal fork or knife to remove a piece of bread stuck in a toaster. I would say that bread stuck in a toaster

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread Richard Nute
Misuse is just that: Using a product for some use other than intended use. Using a CD tray as a coffee cup holder is misuse. Cleaning a keyboard with a wet rag is not misuse. Chewing a pencil is misuse. Leaving a laptop in a hot car is not misuse. Using a chain saw to trim a hedge is

Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset

2014-10-17 Thread dward
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Misuse mains cordset Misuse is just that: Using a product for some use other than intended use. Using a CD tray as a coffee cup holder is misuse. Cleaning a keyboard with a wet rag is not misuse. Chewing a pencil is misuse. Leaving a laptop in a hot car