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From:
John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
To:
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG,
Date:
01/07/2013 11:39 AM
Subject:
Re: [PSES] RoHS II
In message
7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062933D8@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p
vt, dated Mon, 7 Jan 2013
In message
OFA4619942.BE9FEDB0-ON88257AED.00765CE3-88257AED.00770419@US.Schneider-E
lectric.com, dated Tue, 8 Jan 2013,
ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com writes:
My RCA XL-100 (26 years), my Sanyo VCR (14 years) and my satellite box
(13 years) get used every day. Some consumer
The Commission has released an updated FAQ for RoHS2
Ref
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/events_rohs3_en.htm
Regards,
Lauren Crane
KLA-Tencor
This is one of the documents I studied. It contains this phrase:
From 2nd January 2013 EEE in scope that bears a CE marking is presumed
From: Curt McNamara [mailto:mcnam...@umn.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:46 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS II
The Commission has released an updated FAQ for RoHS2
Ref
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/events_rohs3_en.htm
Regards,
Lauren
You have the same situation with the EMC Directive. This is not a new matter.
Ghery S. Pettit
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Crane, Lauren
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:52 AM
To: Curt McNamara; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS II
One
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pettit, Ghery
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:57 PM
To: Crane, Lauren; Curt McNamara; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS II
You have the same situation with the EMC Directive. This is not a new matter.
Ghery S
In message
7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E062933D8@013-BR1MPN1-012.MGDPBI.global.p
vt, dated Mon, 7 Jan 2013, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com writes:
That is a frustrating aspect of EU Directives. Might not be a huge
deal for consumer products that have a short life-span, but for
1. See the IPC template.
2. Now a marking directive - apply for all scoped products that bear 'CE'
mark.
3. Risk assessment will indicate your AQL and/or component acceptance
criteria, which then becomes risk management.
4. Previous discussions on this listserv for RoHS re-cast would apply.
Brian
First off, a belated thank you to the folks that helped with a confusing
requirement on buzzer loudness.
Now I have a new confusing thing :-) Despite reading numerous papers,
presentations, and the official notice, I am still confused about how it
affects designs.
Here is what I get:
-- all
, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:26 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS EN 50581 Acceptable Documentation
Within my circles, the people dealing with RoHS is mostly freaking out about
the documentation requirement to show or prove
Within my circles, the people dealing with RoHS is mostly freaking out about
the documentation requirement to show or prove compliance of purchased
components, assemblies, and materials.
The EN 50581:2012 standard calls out three document types that is acceptable
for this purpose:
1. Supplier
In message
64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB0262AAFA@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local,
dated Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes:
So would you agree that a RoHS marking or statement on such documents
would satisfy the documentation requirement of the directive/standard?
AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
One interpretation we received:
National Measurement Office of the Department for Business Innovation
and Skills (www.nmo.gov.uk)
The recast RoHS Directive was published in the Official Journal of the
European Union
From: Ron Pickard [mailto:rpick...@equinoxpayments.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 09:30
Brian,
Further to Mark's reply, please note that compliance to
the recast RoHS Directive is to be indicated in a
product's DofC (Article 13) and CE marking (Article
16).
IMHO, a CE marked
PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
A rep of the UK enforcement authority has said yes it would be seen as a
non-conformity. All RoHS-logo's should be removed. I have a different view and
the FAQ does not appear to explicitly oppose it (ref Q9. 13). What
the details or point
to an article, etc... (this may read as defensive, but I am truly
interested)
Regards,
Lauren Crane
From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:28 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
I
01886 USA
Mobile: (978) 727 7069
Desk: (978) 577 4205
Email: willbr...@tycoint.com
From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:06 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
Nick,
I completely agree
Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Brown,
William
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:45 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS Question
One interpretation we received:
National Measurement Office of the Department for Business
In message fab0c87d0c344da498f6ffcd77f4c...@tamuracorp.com, dated Fri,
7 Sep 2012, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes:
Someone from the other side of the pond needs to explain to the
colonists which organizations publish binding opinions.
None, if you mean interpretative
: [PSES] RoHS Question
They seem to be the UK body for OIML representation. Do not know what this has
to do with enforcement of marking directives. Someone from the other side of
the pond needs to explain to the colonists which organizations publish binding
opinions. From the website with the URL
Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John
Woodgate
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:28 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
In message fab0c87d0c344da498f6ffcd77f4c...@tamuracorp.com, dated Fri,
7 Sep 2012, Brian Oconnell
A few weeks ago we discussed if cables were included in the RoHS Directive. I
would like to take this a step further and ask if this directive applies to the
non-electrical items that may be shipped with, used with, or bundled with an
electronic device.
For example, mouse pad, wrist pad,
In both cases it is directed at electrical and electronic equipment.
Mark
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 11:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS Question
A few weeks ago we discussed if cables were included in the RoHS
: Thursday, September 6, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: RoHS Question
In both cases it is directed at electrical and electronic equipment.
Mark
From:Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 11:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
In both cases it is directed at electrical and electronic equipment.
Mark
From: Kunde, Brian
[mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]mailto:[mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 11:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC
.
Regards,
Lauren Crane
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS Question
A few weeks ago we discussed if cables were included in the RoHS
Directive. I would like to take this a step further
equipment (EEE), cables and spare parts with a view to full compliance by 22nd
July 2019
Gary
From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:33 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
The directive itself does not address
That was most helpful.
Thank you.
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Crane, Lauren
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 12:33 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS Question
The directive itself does not address such fine point questions well
(similar or equal
to EU RoHS) but must be disclosed in the form of a disclosure table that ships
with the product.
Regards,
Mark
From: Ron Pickard [mailto:rpick...@equinoxpayments.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 12:30 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
Brian
?
Brian
-Original Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Crane, Lauren
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:33 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS Question
The directive itself does not address such fine point questions well, but
the FAQ
applied the CE mark as required.
Not sure this logic will be successful, however.
Regards,
Lauren Crane
-Original Message-
From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 12:33 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
:14 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question
A rep of the UK enforcement authority has said yes it would be seen as
a non-conformity. All RoHS-logo's should be removed.
I have a different view and the FAQ does not appear to explicitly oppose
it (ref Q9. 13).
What
I don't have any clearer answer than those already been given by Lauren Crane
and William Brown, but a couple of points occur which may be grist to the mill.
Firstly, I suspect that the original intention of including wording in the
Directive to restrict the use of other marks has, at least in
.
Regards,
Lauren Crane
KLA-Tencor
From: John Cotman [mailto:john.cot...@conformance.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:32 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
If an item is validly exempt from existing RoHS, but will be within the
scope of new RoHS
Even if you tested the adhesive, since you do not have manufacturing control
and the manufacturer is unable or unwilling to declare their adhesive RoHS
compliant, you will not know if the adhesive will remain RoHS compliant. The
manufacturer could change their adhesive without your knowledge.
[mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: 09 February 2012 14:36
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS
Even if you tested the adhesive, since you do not have manufacturing
control and the manufacturer is unable or unwilling to declare their
adhesive RoHS compliant, you will not know
the six in RoHS, and the restrictions/requirements
are not limited to electrical and electronic equipment.
Regards
Ian Unwin
From:
Kunde, Brian
brian_ku...@lecotc.com
To:
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Date:
09/02/2012 14:33
Subject:
Re: [PSES] RoHS
Even if you tested the adhesive,
since
In message
of301b05ec.81395107-on8025799f.005534aa-8025799f.0055f...@servomex.com,
dated Thu, 9 Feb 2012, iun...@servomex.com writes:
Given that the adhesive is unlikely to contain lead, mercury, cadmium,
hexavalent chromium,
Any of those except perhaps cadmium, could be in mould and fungus
to be
updated to include this directive along with a due diligent establishment of
conformity.
IHTH.
Best regards,
Ron
From: iun...@servomex.com [mailto:iun...@servomex.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:39 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
Group
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
To all,
In addition and especially to those that are not yet aware, please note
that the current RoHS Directive (2002/95/EC) is now in a state of
transition to the recast RoHS Directive (2011/65/EU
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ
procedure in this
case?
Thanks,
The Other Brian
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ron Pickard
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:18 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
To all,
In addition and especially to those that are not yet aware
Get used to recurring testing. Think AQL. Have you looked at RoHS
re-castigated?
Brian
-Original Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:36 AM
To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG'
Subject: RE: RoHS
Even if you
: James, Chris c...@dolby.com
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS
If the mfr will not divulge the make up of the adhesive then switch to one who
will. Any adhesive vendor placing their product into the EU either directly or
indirectly
, the balance of your product would likely still need to comply.
IHTH.
Best regards,
Ron
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:38 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
If you have a product who's category falls
-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ron Pickard
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:24 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS - an EU view
Hi Brian,
With the new RoHS directive's Annex I, I would find it difficult to ascertain
any equipment (EEE) getting an exemption (please note item
...@esterline.com
To: 'Marko Radojicic' radojic...@yahoo.com; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG'
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS
Guys,
all I can tell you is that this is a very large and international company, each
of you would recognized
We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs, Are there RoHS capable test labs in the
US. I would presume there is some % of total content that is allowed if one
only knew what materials are in the adhesive. Not my area just asking for a
panicked compatriot. He's looking for any means at the moment
Many of the North American NRTLs/SCCs have labs for this.
Perhaps a local company can rent you some time on their XRF box to see if it
is even detectable.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff,
Gary
Sent: Wednesday, February
Try
NSL Analytical Services, Inc.
4450 Cranwood Parkway
Cleveland OH 44128
Chuck McDowell
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:34 PM
To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG'
Subject:
In message
d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d665503b7c1...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com,
dated Wed, 8 Feb 2012, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com
writes:
We have an adhesive with no RoHS certs,
It might appear that an adhesive would not have any 'HS' content, but
one can't be sure,
7:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS list of Accredited Labs
I am looking for a list of accredited labs worldwide for RoHS testing. I
have tried to find such a list from the IEC but was not lucky. Can anyone
point me in the right direction? Thank you.
Scott Griggs
a
full IEC type program. I am looking for that list of labs that signed up,
which I assume Intertek and SGS were leaders in that program.
Scott Griggs
From: James, Chris c...@dolby.co.uk
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 4:08:03 AM
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS list
, 2009 11:37 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS 6 on Telecom cards
Hi,
Although currently exempt from full RoHS (and mostly manufactured to RoHS 5-
i.e. with lead in the soldering), I know many manufacturers already
converted to full RoHS (6)
Can you comment on reliability
-economic impacts is a new term in RoHS2 which is
really unclear!]
...Marko
-Original Message-
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:32 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS version 2
Good People,
The context
multiple path
MISRA Violation language scope
-Original Message-
From: Radojicic, Marko [mailto:mradoji...@opnext.com]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:01 PM
To: Brian O'Connell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS version 2
Brian,
I'm not sure I understand your
, May 11, 2009 1:32 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] RoHS version 2
Good People,
The context of this subject is that I am writing a REACH/RoHS/etc
questionnaire for my suppliers; and I am updating some of my Dec of Conformity
and TCFs. I have noted that marking requirements
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