Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-10 Thread Charlie Blackham
CE marking Directives cover safety or health * There are no CE marking Directives that cover environmental protection * The rules don’t apply to products “sold”, they apply to products “placed on the market” – there doesn’t need to be a monetary exchange, and the lack of one does not put

Re: [PSES] [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-09 Thread Douglas Nix
=== > > Ralph > > From: Charlie Blackham > Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 1:17 AM > To: rmm.priv...@gmail.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: RE: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-08 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
, experts, or legal counsel knowledgeable about the specific product and its applicable regulations to ensure compliance with CE marking requirements. Incorrectly applying the CE mark can lead to legal consequences, including fines and product recalls

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-07 Thread Charlie Blackham
A nice example of why ChatGPT won’t put us all out of a job just yet  Point 9 is wrong – you may not use the CE mark to demonstrate compliance with a “non CE marking” Directive, that is one that does not contain the provision for CE marking within its Articles or Annexes Point 3 does not make

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-06 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
tion takes precedence. 9. CE Marking: While the GPSD does not require products to bear the CE marking (a conformity marking indicating compliance with EU safety standards), manufacturers may choose to use it to demonstrate compliance with the directive. 10. Harmonized Standards: Manufacture

Re: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Chris Wordley
Hi Brian Unless it is for use in an explosive atmosphere, then I can’t see that any CE marking legislation will apply. If it is intended for consumers or likely, under reasonably foreseeable conditions, to be used by consumers even if not intended for them, then the General Product Safety

[PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Id3>) that covers any product intended for consumers. As far as I know, the GPSD does neither require a CE Declaration of Conformity, nor CE marking on the product. An overview of EU Directives and applicable harmonized standards may be found at Harmonised Standards (europa.eu)<https://sing

[PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Brian Kunde
like to see the CE Marking on products. They feel it makes things sell better and it avoids uneducated customers from asking why there is no CE marking on the product. Thanks for any advice, ideas, information, or suggestions. The Other Brian

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
I have worked with H.V. power supplies in the past, and there is a point where IEC-based standards simply run out. In most cases, I found certifying agencies are accepting of IEC 61010-1 (or national derivatives) using the tables in Annex K (2010 edition). You still need to pay attention to the

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread bart . de . geeter
, other than the equipment and phenomena listed in Annex II. Thanks for your help ! Greetings, Bart Van: Gert Gremmen Verzonden: donderdag 18 augustus 2022 21:59 Aan: bart.de.gee...@telenet.be; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Scott Aldous
uestions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher > David Heald > -- > > To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: > https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 > > -- > Independent Expert on CE marking > EMC Consultan

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Gert Gremmen
tions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 -- Independent Expert on CE marking EMC Consultant E

[PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread bart . de . geeter
Dear experts, A client is looking for regulatory guidance to CE certify a high voltage output supply (with regular AC mains 230V/50Hz input). The supply has an output voltage upto 25kV (upto 50kHz) output. It concerns a supply to be used for plasma reactor applications. As the output

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-23 Thread Philip Stevenson
com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Douglas E Powell<mailto:doug...@gmail.com> Sent: 22 October 2021 19:47 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query There are other examples

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-23 Thread Philip Stevenson
: Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query Philip > They have informed us that there is a CE Marking Exemption for Military > Equipment in France and Germany for these products I suspect what they mean is “our customers in France and Germany are not asking for e

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-23 Thread Philip Stevenson
| GBE<mailto:matthew.wil...@gbelectronics.com> Sent: 22 October 2021 11:34 To: Philip Stevenson<mailto:pw...@hotmail.co.uk>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query It’s old now but this art

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-22 Thread Douglas E Powell
s old now but this article, written by someone working for TUV SUD, was > handy for me when needing to deal with the ‘military exempt argument’ a > while ago. > > > > > https://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-technology/the-military-ce-marking-conundrum/64803/ > > >

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-22 Thread Charlie Blackham
Philip > They have informed us that there is a CE Marking Exemption for Military > Equipment in France and Germany for these products I suspect what they mean is “our customers in France and Germany are not asking for evidence of CE compliance” That’s perfectly fine – the customer has n

Re: [PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-22 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE
It's old now but this article, written by someone working for TUV SUD, was handy for me when needing to deal with the 'military exempt argument' a while ago. https://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-technology/the-military-ce-marking-conundrum/64803/ It agrees with your stance, which I

[PSES] EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment Query

2021-10-21 Thread Philip Stevenson
Dear All I am contacting this forum for advice on whether there are any EU CE Marking Exemptions for Military Equipment in France and Germany? My reason for asking is that the manufacturers of Military off the shelf equipment (MOTS) who are based in France and Germany that we incorporate

[PSES] CE marking for Automatic Voltage regulator

2021-10-06 Thread Youngsik Kim
Hi all The products is a voltage stabilizer for power plants. What EMC standard apply for CE certification? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list,

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

2020-09-29 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Bernd, Many thanks for your clear pointer! I looked into the delegated regulations incorrectly. Best regards, Scott On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 14:24, Dürrer Bernd wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Article 5 of ErP Directive 2009/125/EC requires CE marking ( > https://eur-lex.eur

[PSES] AW: [PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

2020-09-29 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Hi Scott, Article 5 of ErP Directive 2009/125/EC requires CE marking (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009L0125=EN#d1e903-10-1). Kind regards, Bernd Von: Scott Xe Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. September 2020 07:53 An: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] ErP Directive requiring CE Marking

2020-09-28 Thread Scott Xe
I have learnt that ErP Directive requires CE Marking as compliance with the Directive. I could not find this requirement in the Directive like others such as LVD, EMC, etc. Can someone advise if I got incorrect info or where to document this requirement. Thanks and regards, Scott

Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-15 Thread Regan Arndt
com> wrote: > Regan > > > > CE marking of course applies to all products manufactured on an ongoing > basis, and the requirement you refer to is in the Directives > > > > Quoting from the LVD as an example (Annex III, Module A) > > > > *3. Manufacturin

Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-15 Thread Gert Gremmen
viation to the product design/documentation that originally supported their CE marking testing/declaration.” HTH Matthew Wilson, Technical Director, GB Electronics (UK) Ltd. Disclaimer:​This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the

Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-15 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE
that originally supported their CE marking testing/declaration.” HTH Matthew Wilson, Technical Director, GB Electronics (UK) Ltd. Matthew Wilson Technical Director GB Electronics (UK) Ltd matthew.wil...@gbelectronics.com https://gbelectronics.uk +44 (0)1903 244 500 Ascot House//Mulberry Close

Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-15 Thread Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP)
From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2020 09:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements Caution: This email originated from outside of the organization. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you recognize

Re: [PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
Regan CE marking of course applies to all products manufactured on an ongoing basis, and the requirement you refer to is in the Directives Quoting from the LVD as an example (Annex III, Module A) 3. Manufacturing The manufacturer shall take all measures necessary so that the manufacturing

[PSES] CE marking quality manufacturing requirements

2020-01-14 Thread Regan Arndt
Greetings team members, I seem to recall somewhere either in a directive or the blue guide where it states (or implies) that part of the CE marking requirements entails that the manufacture must have a product quality system/production control..and this is where I need clarification

[PSES] SV: [PSES] ETSI standard for device with LTE (CE-marking RED)

2019-10-11 Thread Amund Westin
Great Michael, I'll check out these standards. BR Amund Fra: micha...@acbcert.com Sendt: 11. oktober 2019 08:19 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] ETSI standard for device with LTE (CE-marking RED) Hi Amund, You should look at EN 301 908-1 and EN 301 908

Re: [PSES] ETSI standard for device with LTE (CE-marking RED)

2019-10-11 Thread michaeld
Hi Amund, You should look at EN 301 908-1 and EN 301 908-13. Also, EN 301 489-52 for the LTE (and EN 301 489-17 for the BLE) Thanks, Michael. From: Amund Westin Sent: 11 October 2019 06:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ETSI standard for device with LTE (CE

[PSES] ETSI standard for device with LTE (CE-marking RED)

2019-10-10 Thread Amund Westin
A wireless sensor contains BLE and LTE chips. For BLE, the standard ETSI EN 300 328 applies. But which standard should we dig into because of the LTE? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety

Re: [PSES] CE Marking and DoC for Multi Device Product

2019-08-12 Thread Steve Brody
c product that I want to place on the market in > Europe, and the product is made up of several individual electronic devices > each powered by AC mains (packaged and sold together), do I place the CE > marking on only one of the devices or all devices? > > And if the answer is

Re: [PSES] CE Marking and DoC for Multi Device Product

2019-08-12 Thread lauren . crane
components the customer is purchasing to expanding the functionality of a product they already own. Components intended for further incorporation in to a final product tend not to be directly in scope of many/most/all CE marking directives. The Customer, then, is on the hook for re-assessing

Re: [PSES] CE Marking and DoC for Multi Device Product

2019-08-12 Thread John Woodgate
in Europe, and the product is made up of several individual electronic devices each powered by AC mains (packaged and sold together), do I place the CE marking on only one of the devices or all devices? And if the answer is "all devices", then do I need a DoC for each device or will one

[PSES] CE Marking and DoC for Multi Device Product

2019-08-12 Thread Brian Kunde
If I have an electronic product that I want to place on the market in Europe, and the product is made up of several individual electronic devices each powered by AC mains (packaged and sold together), do I place the CE marking on only one of the devices or all devices? And if the answer is &quo

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-09-10 Thread Lauren Crane
drawn up the technical documentation, that the apparatus bears the CE marking and is accompanied by the required documents, and that the manufacturer has complied with the requirements set out in Article 7(5) and (6). Where an importer considers or has reason to believe that apparatus

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-09-04 Thread Scott Xe
Hi James, It is quite normal attitude for an oem or odm manufacturer. They have over hundred buyers to keep their business alive and lack of resource to meet all standards of their buyers. In order to meet your requirements, you have to actively educate them for what they have to supply in

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-09-01 Thread Peter E Perkins
ger, Dave To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 12:24 pm Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Not true in my experience. The same lab may do certification reports for EU declarations in addition to NRTL certification/report. The NRTL listing report is specific to

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-09-01 Thread Peter E Perkins
John,Yes, there are many very clever ways to cheat in life. In this case no NRTL mark invalidates the acceptability of the CE marking downstream; the importers QA inspection is needed. My suggestion only works if the folks downstream who are on the hook legally for the Euro

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities A NRTL tests to ALL the equipment ratings even if they include EU ratings. Rich From: John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities That's a bit

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread John Woodgate
to the US government. (FAA and military) Gregory H. McClure Lexmark Product Safety Product Safety Team Lead 859-232-3240 office *From:*John Woodgate *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:38 PM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Ah

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread John Woodgate
ratings. Rich *From:*John Woodgate *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:57 AM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities That's a bit dodgy, Pete. The EU product must be for 230 V mains, so the NRTL won't cover safety test with 230 V 50 Hz

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread Richard Nute
A NRTL tests to ALL the equipment ratings even if they include EU ratings. Rich From: John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities That's a bit dodgy, Pete. The EU product must

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread John Woodgate
-08-30 17:46, Peter E Perkins wrote: James & PSnet folks,     I could envision a scenario that could be more comfortable for all.  If the same product was sold worldwide and bore a US NRTL (UL, etc) mark along with the CE marking then the importer would know that the factory was having quart

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread Peter E Perkins
James & PSnet folks, I could envision a scenario that could be more comfortable for all. If the same product was sold worldwide and bore a US NRTL (UL, etc) mark along with the CE marking then the importer would know that the factory was having quarterly construction inspect

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread John Allen
Head in hands - and liability insurance paper in back pocket (hopefully)! From: James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk] Sent: 30 August 2018 13:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Charlie, John, thanks

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Charlie, John, thanks for the insightful feedback as always. The latest email from the manufacturer doesn't do much to inspire confidence! James From: Charlie Blackham Sent: 30 August 2018 10:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
From: John Woodgate Sent: 30 August 2018 10:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities Run, do not walk, away from this manufacturer. Either they are dangerously unaware of the EU requirements, or they are deliberately avoiding commitment.

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread John Woodgate
Run, do not walk, away from this manufacturer. Either they are dangerously unaware of the EU requirements, or they are deliberately avoiding commitment. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-08-30 08:48, James Pawson (U3C)

[PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-08-30 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hello all, I'm working with a company who are importing some IT products from China to the EU. The Chinese manufacturer is taking a very much "hands off" approach to approvals, expecting the importer to draw up the DoC and perform much of the testing. However access to the parts of the

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Doug Nix, C.E.T.
@ieee.org> wrote: > > Look for relevant Type B and specific Type C EN standards. > > John E Allen > W.London, UK > > From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] > Sent: 02 August 2018 13:29 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Doug Powell
> *From: *"Pete Perkins" <0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> > *To: *"EMC-PSTC" > *Sent: *Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:28:39 AM > *Subject: *[PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about > > Colleagues, I’ve been dealing wit

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Mike Sherman
, 2018 7:28:39 AM Subject: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about Colleagues, I’ve been dealing with CE marking of machinery for some time but now am interested in a variation on that theme, machinery that moves. Think of a fork-lift or front loader each of which lifts a load and moves

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Nick Williams
@ieee.org> wrote: > > Colleagues, I’ve been dealing with CE marking of machinery for some > time but now am interested in a variation on that theme, machinery that > moves. Think of a fork-lift or front loader each of which lifts a load and > moves it before s

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread John Allen
Look for relevant Type B and specific Type C EN standards. John E Allen W.London, UK From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 02 August 2018 13:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about Colleagues

[PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

2018-08-02 Thread Pete Perkins
Colleagues, I've been dealing with CE marking of machinery for some time but now am interested in a variation on that theme, machinery that moves. Think of a fork-lift or front loader each of which lifts a load and moves it before setting it down again. What additional requirements

Re: [PSES] Looking for Industrial CE Marking consultant in the US Midwest.

2018-06-10 Thread Mel Soliven
as one or two new folks. I’ve passed along contact information to the people concerned. Doug Nix d...@ieee.org +1 (519) 729-5704 On 17-May-18, at 16:22, Doug Nix wrote: I am looking for an industrial CE Marking consultant with expertise in at least the following Directives: MachineryLow

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-08 Thread Monrad Monsen
:07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 3:40 PM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables   Hello Scott,   I believe that line voltage wires and cables used for electrical distribution within buildings fall under the Low Voltage Directive

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-07 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott By affixing the CE mark the manufacturer is declaring compliance against all applicable directives – if a particular directive isn’t applicable then it doesn’t matter. Whilst lots of people like seeing UL marks on things, it has no meaning within EU legislation, anymore that CE marking

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-07 Thread Ted Eckert
Douglas [mailto:sdouglas...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 12:31 PM To: Ted Eckert <ted.eck...@microsoft.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables Ted, I sent the the RoHS FAQ and they agree the cables need to be RoHS. They resist CE Marking b

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-07 Thread Scott Douglas
Ted, I sent the the RoHS FAQ and they agree the cables need to be RoHS. They resist CE Marking because the cables have UL approvals for use inside walls (read flammability). They claim there are "matching" safety requirements in the EU and these were not tested for. So they can

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-06 Thread Scott Xe
d > training and they all say not required. > > > Am I the only one that thinks these HDMI cables need to be CE Marked? Or > am I missing something? Like maybe not required today but required to be > marked at some future date like 2019 maybe? > > Last, assuming I am not on

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-04 Thread Ted Eckert
, the cable does not need the CE marking. If the cable is sold on its own, the CE mark is required for RoHS. See pages 15 and 16 in the European Commission guidance document. http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/pdf/faq.pdf Ted Eckert Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed are my own

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-04 Thread Scott Douglas
not on some good psychedelics and CE Marking is required on or for HDMI cables, can I get away with putting the CE Mark on the single unit package, like a label on the poly bag it is sealed in? I thank everybody that helps answer the question and keeps me from consuming more of those pink

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-04 Thread Brent DeWitt
Hi Scott, Which Directives do you think should apply? From: Scott Douglas [mailto:sdouglas...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 7:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables I am going around with an ODM making a HDMI cable for us. Standard

[PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-04 Thread Scott Douglas
psychedelics and CE Marking is required on or for HDMI cables, can I get away with putting the CE Mark on the single unit package, like a label on the poly bag it is sealed in? I thank everybody that helps answer the question and keeps me from consuming more of those pink pills. Happy New Year to all. Scott

[PSES] looking for CE Marking and Consultation for user guide/Manual, packaging

2017-03-29 Thread Chris
We are looking for CE Marking and Consultation services for CE products.Consultant services can be in US or Europe. Our products are Wifi AP and switch, RF expertise for CE products is preferred, User manual, Label, warning statements. for more info you can find on https://www.ubnt.com

Re: [PSES] Address requirement of Product Label for CE Marking

2017-01-24 Thread Inken Green
V.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Address requirement of Product Label for CE Marking Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: STEVENSON Philip <philip.steven...@uk.thalesgroup.com <mailto:philip.steven...@uk.thalesgroup.com> > Date: 23 January 2017 14:56:13 GMT To: "'EMC

[PSES] Address requirement of Product Label for CE Marking

2017-01-23 Thread Philip Stevenson
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[PSES] CE Marking on Inkjet Cartridge

2016-10-31 Thread Jim Hulbert
tive? I'm thinking no because it has no function on its own. 3. Does it require its own CE marking and Declaration of Conformity (at least for RoHS) if it provided exclusively as a consumable for use with professional equipment and is not available on the general consumer market? The user of the pr

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-26 Thread Nick Williams
http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/index_en.htm > On 25 Aug 2016, at 21:45, Jim Hulbert <jim.hulb...@pb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE marking > directives is within the

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-26 Thread Charlie Blackham
d EU wide Market Surveillance reports for R on http://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/electrical-engineering/rtte-directive_en Regards Charlie From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: 25 August 2016 21:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
: 510-540-4670 From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives The stringency, and the enforcement procedures, vary in the different Member States. For example

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread John Woodgate
yleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:46 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives Hi, I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE m

[PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread Jim Hulbert
Hi, I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE marking directives is within the EU. Is there someplace where we can find enforcement actions that have been taken against companies for placing products on the market that don't fully meet the applicable Directives? I

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-28 Thread Carl Newton
identification marking, and then put the CE marking on that part; - Make sure that the product documentation going to the customers clearly states that the product will only be compliant with all relevant CE Directives and the DoC when assembled and installed according to the detailed instructions you

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-28 Thread Carl Newton
). The set of component packages that comprise the product are imported into the EU from the USA. The UK distributor has asked that all packages have the CE Marking on the box. I'm reluctant to sign-up to this procedure in view of the fact that the CE Marking should not be applied to most sub

[PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread Carl Newton
the CE Marking on the box. I'm reluctant to sign-up to this procedure in view of the fact that the CE Marking should not be applied to most sub-assemblies. I've reviewed the 2014 Blue Guide, Regulation (EC) No 765/2008, and 768/2008/E seeking guidance on this scenario but find nothing

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message op.x301folc835bzt@cesllc, dated Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Carl Newton emcl...@gmail.com writes: The UK distributor has asked that all packages have the CE Marking on the box. I'm reluctant to sign-up to this procedure in view of the fact that the CE Marking should not be applied to most

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread Mark Schmidt
: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components Group, I'm dealing with a scenario in which a storage assembly that includes some electronic functionality is assembled

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread John Allen
Carl Personally, I would: - Decide what is the most major part of the product which has a visible external surface which be carrying all the other product identification marking, and then put the CE marking on that part; - Make sure that the product documentation going to the customers clearly

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message 119fa9545c6e264b830c4582886d1190c534d...@quimby.dw.local, dated Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Mark Schmidt mark.schm...@dornerworks.com writes: In regard to your statement Another package may include plastic panels with no inherent standalone function In this case there are no harmonized

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread Chuck McDowell
applies to you sub-assemblies? Chuck McDowell Compliance Specialist Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc. -Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
a DoC/DoI and technical file to back it up. -Dave -Original Message- From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components Group, I'm dealing with a scenario

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2015-08-27 Thread Mark Schmidt
I never said they did not need to be compliant. That wasn't the question or was it? -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly

Re: [PSES] Applicability of EU CE Marking Directive requirements on free issue Development Electrical Hardware

2015-08-25 Thread John Woodgate
on the same contract to produce a final product for a UK customer outside the scope of the CE Marking directive or not? That is does it have to be CE Marked or not? None of these items, including the control box, are 'placed on the market' but they are 'taken into service'. However, IF they do

[PSES] Applicability of EU CE Marking Directive requirements on free issue Development Electrical Hardware

2015-08-25 Thread STEVENSON Philip
Dear List Members I am looking your guidance on whether the EU CE Marking Directive requirements are applicable or not to products build during the development lifecycle for its the design verification and qualification testing. These development versions of the product will not be put

[PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools

2015-06-05 Thread Pete Perkins
PSNetters: Looking to clarify the CE marking requirements for handheld powered tools - such as I've seen roofers use for nailing down shingles. Could be either electrical or pneumatic powered but hand positioned then triggered to work. Thanx in advance for your comments

Re: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools

2015-06-05 Thread Ted Eckert
...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 11:14 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools PSNetters: Looking to clarify the CE marking requirements for handheld powered tools - such as I've seen roofers use for nailing down shingles

Re: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools

2015-06-05 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
61029 might also be worth a look. TC 116 is also working on a similar 62841 series. MikeSent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Ted EckertTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: June 5, 2015 at 3:46 PMSubject: Re: [PSES] CE marking for handheld powered tools Hello

Re: [PSES] Next basic standards for CE marking?

2014-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
a range of other basic standards for other EMC phenomena. Anybody who knows which will be the next standard to be included for CE marking? The Generics have only recently been revised, so no change is likely there. This practically means no new emission standards. For immunity standards, it is up

[PSES] Next basic standards for CE marking?

2014-10-27 Thread Amund Westin
Today, the basic standards 61000-4-2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -8, -11 are referred to in Cenelec generic standards or various product standards. But, there exist a range of other basic standards for other EMC phenomena. Anybody who knows which will be the next standard to be included for CE marking

[PSES] Article on CE Marking Wire and Cable products

2013-12-20 Thread Douglas Nix
Colleagues, I just published a couple of new articles on the Machinery Safety 101 blog on CE Marking of wire and cable products. Thanks go to those that contributed to the research on this topic. As always comments, questions and corrections are welcomed! http://machinerysafety101.com/2013/12

[PSES] CE Marking for wire and cable?

2013-12-03 Thread Douglas Nix
and are therefore NOT subject to CE Marking. In addition to this, a quick search for Declarations of Conformity on a number of wire and cable web sites turned up NO DECLARATIONS. With the withdrawal of much of the HD 21 and HD 22 series of harmonization documents and their replacement with the EN 50525 series

Re: [PSES] CE Marking for wire and cable?

2013-12-03 Thread John Cotman
The RoHS directive may well apply, and since the start of this year, that's been a CE-marking directive. The D of C will tell you which directives they are claiming to meet. _ From: Douglas Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: 03 December 2013 17:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject

Re: [PSES] [External] [PSES] CE Marking for wire and cable?

2013-12-03 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
Doug, I was recently doing some searching for requirements for equipment being used in Marine applications and came across some chemical restriction requirements for wiring. I believe what you might be seeing is CE marking according to the RoHS2 directive based on the info that I ran

Re: [PSES] CE Marking for wire and cable?

2013-12-03 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Doug, The RoHS 2 Directive, 2011/65/EU is now a CE marking directive. Its scope covers some wires and cables defined as cables rated less than 250 V that serve as a connection or extention to electronic equipment, either to the outlet or between pieces of equipment. As such, affected

Re: [PSES] CE Marking for wire and cable?

2013-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 869e769f-4e11-4d74-b7f1-7a7a5eb25...@mac.com, dated Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Douglas Nix d...@mac.com writes: For many years it was not possible to CE Mark wire and cable products because they did not meet the basic definitions for apparatus under the LVD. I am seeing increasing numbers of

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