RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread Crabb, John
...@omnisourceasia.com.hk [mailto:raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk] Sent: 23 August 2001 15:13 To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I just found out the notes about the hipot testing. The standard is IEC 60598-1 Page 343 Annex Q Conformity testing

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread Raymond . Li
) [mailto:rsto...@lucent.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:34 PM To: 'raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I don't see where that proves anything ( 1/2 voltage testing) using voltage applicable

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread info
Just a viewpoint from one of those commercial test houses. In Europe the requirements of the Low Voltage Directive are that a product must be safe, be constructed in accordance with good engineering practice and comply with the principal elements of the safety objectives detailed. It does not

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclaren.com wrote (in AE0F4BD08FEAD211895900805FE67B1FD6CAC5@CAT) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Thu, 23 Aug 2001: ps there's no need to shout :) Since it was the third time that I'd made the point, I felt that some emphasis could

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Doug McKean
Raymond, I've been in such a position where we contested hi-pot testing each and every AC power cable which was sent with every product during production line testing. There were two basic reasons: one, for the reason you've suggested possibly introducing a failure. Second, the time

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk wrote (in of5099731c.c8b3ec7a-on48256ab0.004e0...@omnisourceasia.com.hk) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Wed, 22 Aug 2001: I have read one BSEN standard suggesting not to perform hipot testing at the test voltage, 3kV, 1.25kV or

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
...@omnisourceasia.com.hk [mailto:raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:26 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Dear All, I have read one BSEN standard suggesting not to perform hipot testing at the test

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Raymond . Li
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Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris chris.col...@tagmclaren.com wrote (in AE0F4BD08FEAD211895900805FE67B1FD6CAC3@CAT) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Wed, 22 Aug 2001: Well, you have come to the right conclusion but for two wrong reasons. In Europe, there are no longer any

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Colgan, Chris
Well, you have come to the right conclusion but for two wrong reasons. In Europe, there are no longer any 'national approvals' like the old SEMKO etc. There is ONLY the Low Voltage Directive, and the European Standards (ENs) that have been 'notified' in the Official Journal as

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Doug McKean dmck...@corp.auspex.com wrote (in 001001c12a54$2b315f80$3e3e3...@corp.auspex.com) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Tue, 21 Aug 2001: IMHO, if I were to address the initial question regarding manufactoring testing of a product bound for Europe - unless

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread Doug McKean
The following is strictly opinion ... I may be sticking my neck way out here, but it is my understanding that any required manufacturing hi-pot test, with regard to UL-1950, is contractual between the mfr of said device and the testing NRTL. To my knowledge, there is no *requirement* within the

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread eric . lifsey
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RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread Ron Pickard
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Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread eric . lifsey
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RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:49 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian pmerguer...@itl.co.il wrote (in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50202D5CD4@ITLLTD01) about 'Manufacturing Hipot

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian pmerguer...@itl.co.il wrote (in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50202D5CD4@ITLLTD01) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Mon, 20 Aug 2001: Production - Line Tests (usually Dilectric Strength and Earth Continuity and in some cases like medical equipment,

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Peter Merguerian
-(0)54-838175 -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:47 PM To: don_macart...@selinc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Hi Don, I'm curious Which safety standard to you use

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread georgea
Don, IEC 60950, section 5.3, is specific regarding electric strength testing. It does not require testing between secondary circuits, as it is the primary to secondary, and primary to ground insulation that provides protection against electric shock. Type testing is performed for 1 minute,

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-17 Thread Scott Lacey
Don, I do not believe that circuit-to-circuit testing is required between low-voltage circuits. The test is intended to prevent shock hazards caused by insulation leakage between high-voltage circuits and low-voltage circuits. I would group the circuits for production testing and only test them

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-17 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_macart...@selinc.com wrote (in 88256AAB.00 640e1a...@edison.selinc.com) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Fri, 17 Aug 2001: A Hipot standard which we must run for CE compliance requires that circuit-to-circuit and circuit-to-ground testing be performed on a