Poll, Changes to the EMC directive

1998-06-16 Thread Chris Dupres
Hi Petter. You wrote: What is meant by 'Functional demands'? Could you provide a bit more detail please. I have a very small brain and need all the help I can get Thanks. Chris Dupres Surrey, UK.

Re: Emissions or not?

1998-06-16 Thread ed . price
--- On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:39:43 +0100 (BST) Tim Haynes G-Net 701 3239 / 3455 tim.hay...@gecm.com wrote: I am a radio ham and operate on VHF and UHF bands from the car. The other night I was transmitting on 144.8MHz while the UHF receiver was tuned to 433.325MHz (my local UHF repeater).

Re: Emissions or not?

1998-06-16 Thread MikonCons
Tim: Your receiver frequency is very close to the third harmonic of your transmitter frequency. Perhaps the reflection off the adjacent car reinforced that harmonic to just exceed the rejection characteristics of the receiver. You might test that with a different (reflecting) car (with the same

Re: EMC/EMI finite element analysis package

1998-06-16 Thread MikonCons
This request may yield information beneficial to a large percentage of the PSTC community; therefore, I recommend responses also include Program name and supplier/vendor Platform it runs on (UNIX, DOS, Windows, other) Personal opinions of usefulness, limitations, speed of operation, ease of use

Re: IEC601-1-2 and Voltage dip/interrupt testing

1998-06-16 Thread Patrick Lawler
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:21:01 +0200, Vagn Sylvest wrote: The short answer is: IEC standards are for international use. Those for european use are EN standards. Therefore, IEC 60601-1-2 is for global use. That makes more sense. I've seen so many IEC standards turn into EN standards, that my brain

Re: ANNOUNCE - FAQ: Sources of EMC Safety Compliance Information

1998-06-16 Thread Bill Lyons
FAQ: Sources of EMC Safety Compliance Information This is to let you know that I have just posted in two parts the 27th issue of the above FAQ to the newsgroup for regulatory/compliance matters and EMC and safety specifications and testing,

Re: Emissions or not?

1998-06-16 Thread HMellberg
What if the little green Italian sports car, happened to resonate at 433. MHz? And, with a reasonable Q? Then, your weak 3rd harmonic, will retransmit from the sports car and your receiver will pick it up. I contend that it is your Tx output filter that is not performing. Do a conducted emissions

Re: Poll, Changes to the EMC directive

1998-06-16 Thread petter . gardin
I guess its a problem with the use of words security = 'safety', the product are not allowed to become unsafe if suscepible to EMI WOODS, RICHARD skrev: Could you be more specific about what is ment by functional and security demands? -- From:

RE: Basic EMC Standards

1998-06-16 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Are they harmonized? Yes, if they have been published by CENELEC. Are they referenced in the Journal? No (and they won't be). So, the only basic standards that your product must meet are those that are referenced in generic, product, or family standards that have been referenced in the Journal.

Basic EMC Standards

1998-06-16 Thread R. Heller
Are basic EMC standards harmonized? I have yet to see a basic EMC standard show up in the OJ. The 61000-4 series are widely used but are not in the OJ. What gives? RCIC - http://www.rcic.com Regulatory Compliance Information Center

EMC/Safety in Poland

1998-06-16 Thread Susan Beard
I recently read an article in Conformity discussing Poland's B mark for safety certification. Could anyone in this group provide more information on both the EMC and safety requirements for shipping ITE into Poland? Thanks in advance. Susan Beard sbe...@xlcomputing.com Cycomm Secure

EMC/EMI finite element analysis package

1998-06-16 Thread Lidu Huang
Hello, I am looking for a finite element analysis package for EMC/EMI simulation. Would you please email me or the EMC-pstc list the package you are using? Thank you very much! Lidu Huang

Re: EMC/Safety in Poland

1998-06-16 Thread Art Michael
Hello Susan, A couple of suggestions: A) Find your way to the Safety Link (http://www.safetylink.com) and click on the link for the CB Scheme. Once there, click on the link for participating countries and then click on Poland. Full contact info is provided. B) From the Safety Link, click on

Responses: What is Class 1, Div. 1 Group D?

1998-06-16 Thread BACHERJ
Dear emc-pstc, A number of people responded to me, rather than the list so that I could consolidate the emails and pass them on to the list. As most of the emails contained the same information and to conserve space and bandwidth, I picked several to pass on, which are included below. If you

RE: Poll, Changes to the EMC directive

1998-06-16 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Could you be more specific about what is ment by functional and security demands? -- From: petter.gar...@enator.se[SMTP:petter.gar...@enator.se] Reply To: petter.gar...@enator.se Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 3:42 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Poll,

Re: Poll, Changes to the EMC directive -Svar

1998-06-16 Thread petter . gardin
There is something called SLIM (Simpler legislation of the internal market) that will take a look at all directives. I have the notes from the first meeting of SLIM III regerding the EMC directive (held may 8) with people from the different member countries and people from DGIII Here is a

Poll, Changes to the EMC directive -Svar

1998-06-16 Thread Vagn Sylvest
Hello Petter The only requirements to functional demands are found in articlel 4 of the Directive, stating that the apparatus must operate as intended during electromagnetic disturbances. Security demands are not addressed. Who want this removed/changed? Can you give more information about

Poll, Changes to the EMC directive

1998-06-16 Thread petter . gardin
Hello everybody A new discussion has started in Europe about redesigning the EMC directive. Im intrested to know of this groups opinion. The proposal is to remove the functional demands on products and only have security demands for immunity testing. To check the opinion of this group please

IEC601-1-2 and Voltage dip/interrupt testing -Svar

1998-06-16 Thread Vagn Sylvest
The short answer is: IEC standards are for international use. Those for european use are EN standards. Therefore, IEC 60601-1-2 is for global use. Regards Vagn Sylvest DELTA Electronics Testing Patrick Lawler plaw...@west.net 980616-02.16 IEC601-1-2 (Medical EMC requirements) has a section

IEC601-1-2 and Voltage dip/interrupt testing

1998-06-16 Thread Patrick Lawler
IEC601-1-2 (Medical EMC requirements) has a section discussing the voltage dip and interrupt requirements. In the Committee Draft dated 1998-03-06, it's section 36.202.5. It says the test method in IEC61000-4-11 shall apply with modifications, and goes on to detail them. What caught my eye was

Need help on non-ionizing radiation

1998-06-16 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Thanks for the many responses to my posting on June 5th. There is much more information available than I can digest in even several days. I have reviewed some of the information and visited a few of the web-sites. So far all are very informative. Below is a summary of the resources