Re: IEC 61010 requirements

2003-02-24 Thread David Heald
I think the spurious emissions would be a big problem. You would be amazed at the levels of EMI emitted by phones when they are in certain modes. While looking at some dual tri-mode digital phones from 3 different manufacturers (while placing digital calls in the 1800± MHz range?? or

Re: Shieled ethernet cables in Germany

2003-02-24 Thread Ken Javor
Absolutely correct. I ASSUMED that what was meant was that shielding the cable resulted in no better than a 6 dB reduction in cable-sourced emissions. Something you could check with a current probe. If an entire system is being tested then clearly other emission sources could mask any

pacemakers

2003-02-24 Thread Knighten, Jim L
I have been asked the following question: Does anybody have any experience with pacemakers and multiple spark discharge ignitions? We would like to know if there is any trouble with a pacemaker when it gets close to a high powered ignition. If there is anyone who is racing cars and has a

Power Supply with O/P 0-80Vdc max 125 A

2003-02-24 Thread peter merguerian
Dear All, I am looking for an inexpensive AC to DC power supply with an ADJUSTABLE 0-80 V dc and up to 125 A output. I am sure many of these power supplies exist now that the telecom industry is not doing too well. Peter _ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center http://rd.yahoo.com/

RE: IEC 61010 requirements

2003-02-24 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:05 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: IEC 61010 requirements I read in !emc-pstc that peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com wrote (in

RE: Shieled ethernet cables in Germany

2003-02-24 Thread drcuthbert
The fact that going from unshielded to shielded cable cut emissions by 6 dB does not necessarily mean that the shield cut cable emissions by only 6 dB. It could mean that the cable emissions have been greatly reduced but another part of the system has emissions that are 6 dB below the original

Power Supply with O/P 0-80Vdc max 125 A

2003-02-24 Thread peter merguerian
Dear All, I am looking for an inexpensive AC to DC power supply with an ADJUSTABLE 0-80 V dc and up to 125 A output. I am sure many of these power supplies exist now that the telecom industry is not doing too well. Peter _ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center http://rd.yahoo.com/

RE: IEC 61010 requirements

2003-02-24 Thread John Shinn
If he had a LOW EMI Phone, how was he able to transmit out of the OR? It is not the incidental radiation that is the problem, it is the transmitter. Also, how was he able to answer the phone and maintain sterilization? John Shinn From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

Conformity Article

2003-02-24 Thread John Barnes
EMC-PSTC'ers, My article Designing Electronic Systems for ESD Immunity just came out in the February 2003 Conformity magazine, pages 18-27. If you don't receive the magazine you can download the article from their web site at http://www.conformity.com/ Enjoy! John Barnes

RE: IEC 61010 requirements

2003-02-24 Thread drcuthbert
Maybe he had a special low EMI cell phone? But seriously, a useful product would be a cell phone detector with an audible alarm, or a silent alarm to alert security. Dave Cuthbert From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:05 AM To:

RE: Power Supply with O/P 0-80Vdc max 125 A

2003-02-24 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
Many good Sorenson, HP, Agilent, and other units always seem to be available on ebay. Be careful how you pay. Search for Surplus Test Equipment on google. good luck, Brian I am looking for an inexpensive AC to DC power supply with an ADJUSTABLE 0-80 V dc and up to 125 A output. I am sure

FW: GOST standards

2003-02-24 Thread John Allen
Hi Folks The end of the URL appears to have wrapped, so add umentALT to it from the 2nd line. Regards John Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john.al...@era.co.uk] Sent: 24 February 2003 13:16 To: 'Nick Williams'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: GOST standards Nick Try the GOST Stds

Re: Shieled ethernet cables in Germany

2003-02-24 Thread Ken Javor
To Jan Vercammen and Michael Nagel and the whole forum, If a decent shield only provides 6 dB of shielding effectiveness at best, that is an indictment of the termination impedance(s) and Doug Smith is right, other techniques need to be investigated for reducing emissions and immunity. Ken

I need a EN 60730-1 Type A conformal coat

2003-02-24 Thread Denomme, Paul S.
I currently have a conformally coated board that I need to be tested according to EN 60730-1. The certification agency requires that my conformal coat be a Type A conformal coat according to EN 60730-1. (In other words it must fufill annex P and Annex Q of EN 60730-1) I currently am

RE: GOST standards

2003-02-24 Thread John Allen
Nick Try the GOST Stds Search Engine on http://www.gost.ru/sls/gost.nsf/PVP/1762244D53B86C4AC32566DE0038560E?OpenDoc umentALT Regards John Allen Technical Consultant Safety and Risk Management ERA Technology Ltd Cleeve Rd Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA Tel:+44 (0) 1372-367025 (Direct)

Re: GOST standards

2003-02-24 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk wrote (in p05200f07ba7fa37407a5@[192.168.1.29]) about 'GOST standards' on Mon, 24 Feb 2003: Is there anywhere I can identify some sort of cross reference between the GOST standard numbers and the EN standards (if indeed such

GOST standards

2003-02-24 Thread Nick Williams
I've been asked to look at a piece of equipment which is made in Russia and which has numerous certifications to various GOST standards. Is there anywhere I can identify some sort of cross reference between the GOST standard numbers and the EN standards (if indeed such a comparison is

Re: Safety Requrement for wireless component in vehicle.

2003-02-24 Thread Kim Boll Jensen
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Dear Cheng-Wee Lai For EU you will need an E marking, since 1/10 2002 the CE marking is not longer enough for this kind of equipment. This approval process is not very good implemented in EU. You are free to choose any national authority within EU but

Re: Shieled ethernet cables in Germany

2003-02-24 Thread Jan Vercammen
Hello, I can confirm Doug's remarks, a badly designed Ethernet system shielding can behave much worse than an unshielded one. I have don EMC tests with foil-shielded TWP and unshielded TWP. If the shield and/or the connector are not connected properly then radiated emissions and susceptibility

RE: Shieled ethernet cables in Germany

2003-02-24 Thread Nagel, Michael
Hi Doug and the group, I think the issue is a bit more complex than that. The cables can be an effective antenna in both cases but the reasons are not the exactly the same. Speaking for shielded cables the failures you have seen are (from my experience) the already mentioned pigtails, the

AW: Blower Motor w/ European approval

2003-02-24 Thread Horst Haug
Dear Brian, most European approval agencies accept an CSA approved blower also for Europe. It means, that the f - fammability - motor blocking - motor overlaod is checked already. For CE-mark (= self declaration) above is sufficient. With best regards Horst INNOVA Product Service GmbH