Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread John Woodgate
So public servants can say what they like, but honest citizens can't. Room for improvement. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Ted Eckert

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Brent DeWitt
Many companies use the legal term of “at will” employment. It pretty much gives an employer the right to dismiss without disclosing any motivation. From: Ted Eckert [mailto:07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 11:49 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Ted Eckert
In the United States, the First Amendment prevents governments from regulating speech. However, employment at a specified company is not a constitutionally protected right. A private company is permitted to fire you for something you say. Many people learn in the United States have learned this

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Doug Powell
Ed,I've already been in that situation.  Not only was my email and computer hard drive searched under court order but also more than twenty notebooks of laboratory notes spanning several years. I gave more than 12 hours of deposition in a hostile interview setting with full court recording.  It

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread John Woodgate
An employer seeking to restrict personal communication on the Internet may violate the First Amendment.. To replace the sesquipedalian disclaimers imposed by corporate lawyers, I coined the TLA OOO which has appeared in my sig-tag since time immemorial. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Ted Eckert
I work in an environment where it is reasonable for me to assume that anything I write may be accessed by a plaintiff during the discovery process of some future lawsuit. It makes me more careful what I say, but it generally doesn’t prevent me from responding to a forum such as this. The

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Ed Price
Doug: How would you feel if you knew that some law firm considering a lawsuit against your company, was searching for everything you might have said over the past 20 years, for evidence of utterances that might support their version of some item of contention? Or perhaps somebody was filing

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Doug Powell
I have watched this conversation for a few days and now I am beginning to wonder what is all the angst about.  I have been a member of the forum since about 1995 and the publically searchable archive is something I have used since the beginning. I find it very useful and have never assumed any

Re: [PSES] Incidental Radiators per FCC Part 15

2016-11-22 Thread Cortland Richmond
On 11/22/2016 9:46 AM, Grace Lin wrote: Test data with the DC motor running did not comply with the Class A/B limits. Test data without the DC motor running complies with the Class B limits. This isn't uncommon with brush-commutation DC motors; I've used small ones with a loop antenna as a

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Douglas Nix
My policy has always been to never put anything in an email that I wouldn’t want to see on the front page of the newspaper. It’s served me pretty well so far… -- Doug Nix d...@mac.com When you put a thing in order, and give it a name, and you are all in accord, it becomes. From the Navajo,

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread dward
Or say what you mean and don’t say it if you are afraid you will be embarrassed by it. ​ Dennis Ward This communication and its attachements contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, Inc., and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) named above. It may

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Pete Perkins
Dan et al, I hope that everyone realizes that in this day of wikileaks that no electronic correspondence is private anymore, whether or not you intend it to be. In this case we see clearly that the messages are archived and searchable –

Re: [PSES] Incidental Radiators per FCC Part 15

2016-11-22 Thread John Woodgate
DC motors were a notorious source of EMI even 70 years ago. It isn't normally difficult to cut the emission to a low enough level and I would encourage that. But I am surprised that anyone is using a DC motor with brushes these days. Of course, if it has no brushes, there is something wrong

Re: [PSES] Incidental Radiators per FCC Part 15

2016-11-22 Thread Bill Stumpf
Emissions from incidental radiators (ex. DC brush motors) may be disregarded when testing to show compliance with the emission standards. By definition an incidental radiator is subject to the general requirements of FCC Part 15 regulations (15.5 & 15.13). If the motor is driven by digital

Re: [PSES] Incidental Radiators per FCC Part 15

2016-11-22 Thread McCallum, Andy
Grace No a compliant report should not be issued. You will need to investigate the problem with the DC motor and resolve the issue. Regards Andy From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 November 2016 14:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Incidental Radiators per

[PSES] Canadian Standards

2016-11-22 Thread McBurney, Ian
Dear colleagues. Is there an expiry date for declaring compliance with CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 60065:16 2nd edition when manufacturers will then be required to use CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 62368-1-14? Many thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Dan Roman
The IEEE does not offer the archive option in their listserv functionality. The admins had been maintaining an archive from the beginning (including the old TREG and NEBS) but it was essentially privately held and not searchable. The mail archive site is a free service that archives all

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
+1 Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen Approvals manager + ce marking of electrical/electronic equipment + Independent Consultancy Services + Compliance Testing and Design for CE marking according to

Re: [PSES] Public view of this email server?

2016-11-22 Thread Ed Price
This does come as a surprise to me. I had thought that the email archive was searchable by being stored on the IEEE host, but I did not realize that anyone, anywhere in the World, could observe the conversations with a Google search external to the IEEE. I don’t think this is what we intended