Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

Isn't the guy at the top supposed to set Risk Tolerance?? Best Regards, John John Allen USA From: John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 2:35 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

and profitability (and not going under!). John Allen W.London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: 06 March 2015 20:43 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; John Allen Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering Isn't the guy at the top supposed to set

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

it's not my responsibility because nobody told me to do it. Ring some bells? John Allen W.London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 06 March 2015 20:18 To: 'Ken Javor'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

And not so cordially either! From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 06 March 2015 21:47 To: 'Bonsen, Robert' Subject: RE: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering Robert You have obviously been there! I sympathise, completely - I have too! John

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

seen various aspects of the above in a wide range of companies (including some that I worked both before and after, I think, our mutual time at HP - and at HP itself for that matter, which is one of the reasons why I myself left!) John Allen. W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

John T Your last line is what, I think, most of us have said or implied! So what do the rest of the viewers think, and where do you think the world is globally? John Allen W.London, UK From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: 07 March 2015 21:35 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

Standards, there will be a day when safety takes priority for everyone. On Mar 7, 2015, at 3:56 PM, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.ukmailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: John T Your last line is what, I think, most of us have said or implied! So what do the rest of the “viewers

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

was very good. John Allen W.London. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 07 March 2015 10:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering In message !!AAAYAGfd0ZsQVUREqttMnk

Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

assessment? Stupid questions? Maybe, but would be interesting to hear your thoughts? John Allen W. London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 13 March 2015 18:51 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

of whether there are directly-applicable harmonised Standards - , CE marking is required and the overall CE marking requirements apply, and that would then throw the RoHS II requirements into play as well. So, I think the installations issue could probably be the critical one. John Allen W. London, UK

Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

. John Allen W. London, UK From: Pearson, John [mailto:john.pear...@polycom.com] Sent: 13 March 2015 13:51 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets Here is a Friday discussion topic for you guys. In the UK we are seeing a plethora of aftermarket 250v AC

Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

? More questions than answers so far (as is often the case J)! John Allen W. London, UK. From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 13 March 2015 15:31 To: 'Pearson, John'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets It's interesting to note

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

John And so what has actually changed with today's get rich quick senior managers of both types in the last 50 years? Often, unfortunately not very much! L John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 31 March 2015

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

understanding your likely audience, and then to pitch the presentations in terms that they will quickly absorb. John Allen W.London, UK. -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: 31 March 2015 21:50 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

Ken OK, I do understand, and so make sure that what you pass on, to the managers asking for the info, the other half of the equation in terms that they themselves understand for the audience that they need to reach - and not just pass on the info John Allen W.London, UK -Original

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

aspects of a design and the potential risks to both life and to being hit with the relevant legal penalties in terms criminality, fines (both to the company and to them personally), and in terms of company reputation/public perception. John Allen W.London, UK. -Original Message- From

Re: [PSES] standards-driven product safety

No need to say much, except that I fully agree with both Rich and John W! John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 22 February 2015 08:04 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] standards-driven product safety

Re: [PSES] Machinery requirements for Japan market

Bit like the voluntary nature of VCCI EMC certification, then!:DSent from my FonepadChris 0133def26cf0-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote:Pete,Very true'voluntary' definition.Big name Japanese customers will not buy your product without these labels/certifications.I always recommend the

Re: [PSES] Google Earth Pro Now Free - the Licence Key!

Went to load GEP this afternoon but could not open the link to get the free Licence Key. Bit of searching elsewhere took me to this page, and it turns out that a lot of people are having the same problem: http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/31/once-399-a-year-google-earth-pro-is-now-fre

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment? In message !!AAAYAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEDf9dud5KeJHuCKyK rUnaccBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Sat, 21 Feb 2015, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk writes: OTOH, the EU approach is more encompassing because the prime

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

system in the US still necessary? Yes, because that is how the State regulators and the public expect/require it to be at present – but in another 10-20 years, maybe it will become a fond memory from the past! J John Allen W.London, UK From: Kevin Robinson [mailto:kevinrobinso

Re: [PSES] Is NRTL listing mandatory for consumer-grade telephone terminal equipment?

. OTOH, in the US the situation is more black and white and with less room for flexibility - which also means a rather blinkered approach IMHO! John Allen West London, UK -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 21 February 2015 20:21 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

, over the years, I have seen many notable examples of how a), b, and/or c) have not been done correctly, or, in some cases, not at all - and we all have a pretty good idea of where that sort of thing is likely to lead! John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Brian Ceresney

Re: [PSES] Safety standards versus safety engineering

/involved with the clean-up work to try and put things right, and, unfortunately more rarely, in trying to stop it happening in the first place. L John Allen W.London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 06 March 2015 08:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

2015 05:24 To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash Since its not difficult to map all the world on a single USB card (including height information) the plane itself might have enough information to simply refuse to be led to ground under

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

Gert That's fine when there are two people in the cockpit - but what happens when one has left to answer the call of nature? Presumably the door cannot then be closed or opened - so it has to stay open, which breaks the major post 9/11 rule that the door has to be kept closed and locked at all

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

In message !!AAAYAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEH78Bib0uHFGn7Ud/ R43nIoBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Thu, 2 Apr 2015, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk writes: That's fine when there are two people in the cockpit - but what happens when one has left to answer the call

[PSES] Consultant for UL498 and UL67

Hi, We're in need of a consultant with experience in UL489 and UL67. A client has new IP that the NRTL's haven't seen yet. Please respond to me directly. John jral...@productsafetyinc.com - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] Wire Questions

embarrassing way that they do not!) Regards John Allen W.London, UK From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 06 May 2015 17:09 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Wire Questions Didn’t I hear there was some kind of agreement where UL/CSA approved

Re: [PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 Consumer Protection Act 1987

are often then modified and enhanced by subsidiary REGULATIONS published later - and that has certainly happened to a great extent w.r.t. the CPA in order to improve consumer protection ! Regards John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 08

Re: [PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 Consumer Protection Act 1987

Scott If you check the Explanatory Note that you will find at the back of each Regulation, you will generally be able to see any references to relevant EU legislation. John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 May 2015 00:07 To: John

Re: [PSES] Wire Questions

! Not to say that this is right/ legal, but taking a pragmatic view of the actual situation in most countries. J Therefore, in the circumstances, it may well be better (as you appear to do) to leave the supply of appropriate power cords to the European installers! John Allen W.London, UK

Re: [PSES] CSA/cUL Certification

of problem has been the undoing of many attempts to get products into N.America over the years! John Allen W.London, UK From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 05 May 2015 08:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CSA/cUL Certification Product: Multimedia

Re: [PSES] Wire Questions

Brian Thanks Grounding Conductors - what you have identified in C22.2 No 0.4 seems to largely confirm and expand on what I surmised from TN-017 and the related references. Regards John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com

Re: [PSES] Trade Description Act 1968 Consumer Protection Act 1987

internet sales and so on, as well as those related to generally beefing up consumer protection. John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 May 2015 06:41 To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Trade Description

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

Mixed-sex flightcrew? :D Sent from my Fonepad Gary Tornquist <gary...@microsoft.com> wrote:>Chamber pots! > >One has to wait years to legitimately reference chamber pots in conversation :) > >Cheers, >Gary Tornquist > >-Original Message- >F

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

ucpoOcBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Wed, 1 Apr 2015, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk writes: you think they could conceivably operate consistent and reliable systems whereby a pilot says I need a cr*p, please open the cockpit door in 30s, and someone, somewhere, has to say OK, and do

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

: 01 April 2015 21:30 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash In message !!AAAYAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEFC36QsFDqtAlNsc1 mailto:kQ8nscBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk kQ8nscBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Wed, 1 Apr 2015, John Allen

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash

Not realistic for a huge raft of reasons: air-to-ground-to-air time-delays, comms issues, EMI issues, language issues, situational awareness issues - need I go on? !! L -Original Message- From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 01 April 2015 19:29 To:

[PSES] Production Line testing for UL60950

Can someone point me in the right direction (i.e.; what clause number can I find it??) regarding production line testing in UL60950-1. Thanks, John - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] Compliance Engineer needed

Hi, We're looking to hire an experienced compliance engineer. Contact me at jral...@productsafetyinc.com if you're interested or know of anyone. Best Regards, John - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Re: [PSES] Production Line testing for UL60950

would love to see 108-570, thank you! Best Regards, John jral...@productsafetyinc.com From: Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:34 PM To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Production Line testing for UL60950

Re: [PSES] Production Line testing for UL60950

Thank you everyone!! Forgot about, but found routine tests. What's odd to me is it doesn't seem ground continuity is required as a routine test. Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.comhttp://www.productsafetyinc.com On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM

[PSES] HazLoc Consultant

Hi, I'm looking for an experienced HazLoc consultant. Please respond separately to my email - jral...@productsafetyinc.com. Best Regards, John - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] EU Customs and EMC test report

as to the accuracy of the DoC. John Allen W.London, UK From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 15 June 2015 20:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Customs and EMC test report Chuck, I would expect only to see the applicable standards

Re: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed ....

) and therefore I would have thought that that would be adequate grounds for claiming that it would also meet the FCC requirements in question by default. John Allen W.London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 13 August 2015 08:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] FCC label - stick-on / permanently affixed ....

Dave That’s the sort of information source to which I was alluding – so it’s probably what Amund should refer to. John Allen W.London, UK From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 13 August 2015 13:06 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC

[PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

attend the symposium, but can certainly pass along something similar to the one I did. Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 - This message

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

is December 6, 2015. Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 Product Safety Consulting Product Safety Consulting provides product developers and manufacturers with expert advice and testing services, so they can secure

Re: [PSES] Dual polarity DC electric strength test

such construction through his type tests or allow it to be submitted to an agency for testing! John Allen W.London, UK From: Wm Barry [mailto:05b89252cb83-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 05 August 2015 16:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Dual polarity DC

Re: [PSES] Friday night conundrum

A few weeks ago, there was an interesting presentation on this very subject at the TUV Sud Customer Day at Brooklands - so maybe someone from TUV Sud might like to comment? :-D John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ

Re: [PSES] Calculating Reflection Angles on OATS/SAC

that the principles have been expounded and expanded many times over the years – so can anyone point to some decent downloadable documents which illustrate the issues? John Allen W.London, UK From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com] Sent: 10 August 2015 09:56 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

Those are great suggestions!! If either of you - Ted and The Other Brian - or anyone else can put together either presentation they'd both be great for Compliance 101. Any takers?? Only one comment in that there's no ketchup on Chicago style hot dogs!! Best Regards, John John Allen

Re: [PSES] Cd exemption for art material

ontributor to an environmental issue, and not just the "definitive" "if it can then it will cause a real problem" approach. Might be a pity that the powers-that-be behind ROHS/ROHS2 did not take a similar approach? John Allen W. London, UK. -Original Mess

Re: [PSES] EMC in Canada

ign problems. Thus, even where there are no legal requirements, comply with general legal requirements elsewhere as a starting point - and don't dismiss them as an irrelevance for that particular market! John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Bill Stumpf [mailto:bstu...@dlsemc.com]

Re: [PSES] OSHA and UL60974-1 Engine Driven Arc Welders

Hi Kevin, Thank you for the detailed clarification!! Best Regards, John From: Kevin Robinson <kevinrobinso...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:27 PM To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] OSHA and UL60974-1

[PSES] OSHA and UL60974-1 Engine Driven Arc Welders

Hi guys, Question on the subject - UL60974-1 (Engine Driven Arc Welders) is not on the OSHA list of "Appropriate Test Standards". UL551 (Transformer Arc Welders) is on the list. No NRTLs have UL60974-1 coverage by OSHA. Can we still use UL60974-1 for USA Certification? Our issue is that

Re: [PSES] CE Marking on Packaging of Assembly Components

2.1 Product Coverage and the para beginning A combination of products... on Page 18 and Chp 4 Section 4.2.2.3 Identification element on Page 49. John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Chuck McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com] Sent: 27 August 2015 17:52 To: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

Thanks Rich! The video was great! Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 [http://www.productsafetyinc.com/assets/product-safety-consulting.png]http://www.productsafetyinc.com/ Product Safety Consulting

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

Thanks Dan, Pretty funny guy!! Not sure if PSES would allow live demos. Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 [http://www.productsafetyinc.com/assets/product-safety-consulting.png]<h

Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track demo

sands of people (including lots of kids!) played with this thing - sometimes for protracted periods - and, AFAIK, no-one got even mildly hurt! Surely something like that could be demonstrated, with the well-publicised warning that that the higher the shock current then the "bigger" the eff

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

FWIW, 27MHz sounds more like a CB station rather than an “real” Amateur station which (IIRC) would be using the 28MHz band – and CB operators (especially in some countries! ) may use illegal amps (“boosters”) to raise the transmit power beyond the legal limits! John Allen W.London, UK

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

!) John Allen W.London, UK From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 12 September 2015 21:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question John: Unfortunately, American consumer electronics has no E-field immunity requirement. The only help

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

“Lazyboy” You may not have, and, as a licenced Amateur, I am sure you would not because you know that you should not, and that there are better and more challenging ways to talk to your faraway friends – but I don’t think that some CB operators are as “conscientious” J. John Allen

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

Scott I think I need to apologise for the tone of my earlier email – a bit OTT w.r.t. yourself on reflection ! John Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 13 September 2015 08:51 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

, and the resulting publicity can be horrendous. Prevention is better than punishment! Not politics on my part, just what I consider to be ethical common sense. John Allen W.London, UK From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 14 September 2015 17:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

Ravinder W.r.t. your 2nd para, the 1st sentence is roughly what I said in an earlier post - but the 2nd sentence could be a misleading assumption because of what you said in the 1st para (and what I also said in my earlier post about bean counting for the US market!) L John Allen

Re: [PSES] RF Common Mode Immunity Test Question

;hidden barrier to trade" which does not break the WTO rules and helps knowledgeable US manufacturers in their own backyards! John Allen W.London, UK From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 15 September 2015 03:22 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RF Commo

Re: [PSES] UL CSDS website

been on and off ul.com and my home all day, no issues. From: Nyffenegger, Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL CSDS website Are you referring to UL.com (MyHome

Re: [PSES] Getting 2 emails for many posts on the forum - is it just me?

PS: just noticed that the 1st post is addressed to "John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" whereas the 2nd is just to "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" -Original Message- From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sen

[PSES] Getting 2 emails for many posts on the forum - is it just me?

getting only 1 post. Anyone have any idea why? John Allen W.London, UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

Rich Might that be a result of a classic case of the FCC/IC position of specifying emissions but not immunity limits (presumably the Yachtboy is/was aimed at the European market which does have immunity requirements? John Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

ing!) than it was then! "Informed" opinions on the above would be interesting! John Allen W.London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 08 December 2015 22:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment On the issue

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

ifically intended for "totally heavy industrial machinery/installations" should be Class A - and "everything else" should be Class B. John Allen W.London, UK From: Ronald Pickard [mailto:ronald.pick...@compoundphotonics.com] Sent: 08 December 2015 19:32 To: EMC-

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

quot; installation should then have rang "alarm bells" even before it was operated. Therefore the hospital management failed to meet their legal EMCD requirements, as well as a failure of a general duty-of-care to their patients! John Allen W.London, UK From: ce-test, qualifi

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

Charlie That would be my reaction as well - which is why I would expect AV specialists to question its application to their kit, and why the 62368-1 Scope needs clarification. John Allen From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 17:58 To: John

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

"covered". Presumably, however, the IEC Committees will (or should be!) working on a suitable "Part XX" to 62368 - so does anyone have leads on that? John Allen W.London, UK From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 17:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IE

Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification

ore detail in the "Application guide to the European Standard EN 50160 on voltage characteristics of Electricity supplied by public distribution systems" issued by EUROELECTRIC - the Union of the Electricity Industry (doc no 23002Ren9530). Regards John Allen W.London, UK (PS: whilst not pa

Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification

throughout a building. John Allen W.London, UK From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Sent: 19 November 2015 16:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification Carl, An apartment complex is a shared low-voltage distribution

Re: [PSES] For Your Information NRTL Directive Draft and Comment

Thanks Kevin!! John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 From: Kevin Robinson <kevinrobinso...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:09 PM To: EM

[PSES] Multiple Listee for CE

. If company B wants company A to put their name on it and company B places the product on the market, do they need their own Technical File? Do they put something in the file from company A that the company B's model number is exactly the same as their model? Thanks, John John Allen

Re: [PSES] Multiple Listee for CE

That works perfectly, thanks!! I still would want so see company A's Technical File. John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 [http://www.productsafetyinc.com/assets/product-safety

[PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

Just had a routine info email from the ECM Web highlighting an interesting American Medical Association (AMA) article on the potential harmful effects of LED streetlights - see here: http://electricalmarketing.com/blog/ama-warns-harm-led-streetlights-blue-light?NL=ECM-07

Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

edly compliant with all corporate edicts. But most importantly, LED lighting, when done correctly, reduces wide-spectrum light pollution, so for sake of my desert trips, all must use LEDs. But, have noted that some of the LED drivers are serious noise problems (both RE and CE). Brian From: John All

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

J!! From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 22 June 2016 20:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light John said: “There have been lots of press reports of medics advising not to use computers late at night

Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 June 2016 20:18 To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light John, ​​ I have to wonder about the "blue rich" automotive headlights, for me they are a strong irritan

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

Rich Your first para is effectively what I was trying to say (obviously not effectively!) because, as you said, the internal wiring then need only be able to cope with the normal-condition current and any overcurrents from internal faults (such as a short to ground in Class I equipment)

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

Mike AFAIK, that requirement does not apply if a correctly fused appliance inlet is used because that should allow smaller gauge wiring from its outlet terminals – and that is quite common (or at least it was) for 60950 equipment. Whilst I am here, I would suggest that because the

[PSES] Class 1 Div 1 Small Motor

Hi, Does anyone know who has small motors that can pass Class 1 Div 1?? Current motor is 12Vdc, 8Amp Thanks, John jral...@productsafetyinc.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complain nce?

ives, whereas as the US approach seems to positively encourage/require strict compliance to the relevant stds. Maybe that’s why they might be considered stultifying and/or a restraint of trade? John Allen W.London, UK From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 17 January 2016 16:20 To:

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce?

the last 10 years or so – they affected me, and many others like some of you guys. John Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 17 January 2016 08:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce?

compliance people outside their sector! John Allen W.London, UK From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 January 2016 06:54 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce? In generic terms Compliance

[PSES] US CPSC "Consumer Products Safety Robot"

a the CPSC's website at https://business.cpsc.gov/robot/ Might help non-consumer product suppliers as well, but I don't know as I have not checked it out myself as yet - comments from interested people would be useful. John

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC compliance?

nfortunately very few of the companies I worked for after that were as ethical or diligent. L John Allen W.London, UK From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: 17 January 2016 16:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensur

[PSES] Software Safety to UL1998

Hi, We're looking for a software safety engineer that knows UL1998. Please respond to me directly, and quickly :-). Thanks, John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Don't think so - but there might be a "Yuck" marking from some Europhobics J. From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 27 June 2016 19:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex John et al,

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Ed I seriously doubt that our technical regulatory requirements (at least in the compliance area in question) will change that much as they have always been prepared and applied with a "soft touch" approach. We trade with both Europe and the RoW, and the technical standards of most

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Rich (Almost!) Everyone here knows the marking, and some of them actually know what it means and how to apply it (many still don't), and it is in all the relevant legislation - and that is almost certainly how it will remain as I can't see anyone wanting another change, especially the

Re: [PSES] EMO vs EPO

Evening Getting a bit out-of-date in this area, but there is quite a lot in Clause 9 “Control circuits and control functions” of 60204-1; 2006 as amended, and that also refers to the safety-related aspects of control functions given in ISO 13849-1, ISO 13849-2 and IEC 6206 (none of which I

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

issue stop shipment/variation notices, where they should have - and they reflect very badly on the NTRLs which employ them. So what "qualifications" (etc.) are the NRTLs required to ensure that their auditors have? John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From:

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