Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-03 Thread Grace Lin
*To:* Crane, Lauren *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? ** ** Lauren -- A similar thread is currently running on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/CISPR-22-24-compliance-update-2278131.S.269600494?view=gid

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-03 Thread Dward
or attachment(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. Thank you. From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:31 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? John Wrote

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 003f01cea8c7$d1886be0$749943a0$@pctestlab.com, dated Tue, 3 Sep 2013, Dward dw...@pctestlab.com writes: If nothing in the standard changed the way a previous test was or was not applied, then no new testing would be required.  If however the standard did change in an area that

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-02 Thread John Cotman
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920A174@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Sat, 31 Aug 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Are you still sure about your new Signature ?? Yes

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-02 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Cotman Verzonden: Monday, September 02, 2013 11:44 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? John Woodgate states the legal position entirely correctly (for the EEA, I don't know

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-02 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920A182@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Mon, 2 Sep 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: And John, data ports do not exist in EMC world, they are (most often) called I/O ports, That's just nitpicking. -- OOO - Own

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-09-02 Thread Cortland Richmond
I have had to justify changes as remaining compliant with a standard, a similar case to the standard changing, and i too have been reluctant to do so without tests to show that this assertion is correct. This has often been where, due to the nonavailability of a part years or decades old and

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
John Wrote: The EMC Directive doesn't demand ANY testing. Maybe, but it demands EVIDENCE of compliance. Annex IV - 1 Two Definitons of Evidence Law: The documentary or oral statements and the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law. Law: information drawn from

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920A173@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Sat, 31 Aug 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: John Wrote:   The EMC Directive doesn't demand ANY testing.   Maybe, but it demands EVIDENCE of compliance. Annex IV - 1

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
We cannot read anything but evidence here, there is no but : if one applies harmonized standards, you need evidence, and that is the case in this discussion. Within the chapter of technical documentation, that means written evidence , not a witness :) If you have evidence about

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920A174@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Sat, 31 Aug 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Are you still sure about your new Signature ?? Yes. But I'm now not sure of the point you are making. There is nothing in my

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Truth from the lab. When January 12, 2014 rolls around any product you place on the market in the EU to which EN 61000-6-4 applies will have to have been shown to meet the standard with amendment A1:2011. Now, you need to know what the amendment changed. I don't know your product, nor do I

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? Lauren -- A similar thread is currently running on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/CISPR-22-24-compliance-update-2278131.S.269600494?view=gid=2278131type=memberitem=269600494trk=eml-anet_dig-b_nd

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread mark gandler
Lauren, According to EU Directives all products to be placed on the market must comply with current regulations and applicable standards. There are 2 major sides to your question: did the product change? Did the requirements change? You must evaluate and access your product vs new/updated

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
:05:28 PM Subject: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard? Dear Experts,   A test lab is suggesting that because EN61000-6-4:2007 will be superseded in 2014, all conforming products must be retested to the new standard, even if no changes have occurred in the product

[PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, A test lab is suggesting that because EN61000-6-4:2007 will be superseded in 2014, all conforming products must be retested to the new standard, even if no changes have occurred in the product. Is this a fair claim? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 617eb8c8634c9149aa66c853d7b8ac5322b70...@ch1prd0310mb392.namprd03.prod.o utlook.com, dated Fri, 30 Aug 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: A test lab is suggesting that because EN61000-6-4:2007 will be superseded in 2014, all conforming products must be retested