Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 12:09:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Unless I can con the local telco out of one of their 75,000uf x 75 volters, > its probably going to have to do w/o. I went googling for big caps last > night and came up empty, everything is lower voltage for transistors now. You c

Re: [Emc-users] A-axis

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Gene wrote... ><<< I was trying to help Ian Wright. But it seemed as if the displayed > position was some random value about 3 digits to the right of the decimal > point. Invisible motion, and following errors were all I could get out of > i

[Emc-users] Handwheel overrun

2007-08-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I saw some behavior I don't like today. When I move the table using the handwheel and have the feedrate override set low I see a rubber band effect. The table runs on after I stop turning the handwheel. I have the jog-vel-mode set true for each axis. The axis moves in the manner

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Kenneth Lerman wrote: >I disagree with the defenders who say it is not a kludge. It is a kludge. It >was when I wrote it and it is now. > >The reason that these features must begin with an o-word is very simple. It >made it easier to change the parser. The code simply tes

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: > > I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed > >>>scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster. >> >> Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I fin

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Dave Engvall wrote: >Hi Gene, > >On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts & probably 100 ma average, I found that spinning the elec

[Emc-users] EMC Board election, second round of voting

2007-08-21 Thread Michael Cornelius
Hello everyone, Ballots for the second round of voting have been sent out. If you did not receive a ballot the first time, you should be receiving yours now. If you were on the list for the first round of voting, you will not be receiving a ballot this time. All votes from the first round have bee

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Michel Gouget
Ken, I strongly agree with you, you did a wonderful hack, adding a lot of functionality with a minimal amount of work. It was "the right thing to do", and the price sure is unbeatable :) I learned programming back in 1976 in FORTRAN66 on an IBM 1130. At least, it was a high level language. RS274

Re: [Emc-users] To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

2007-08-21 Thread Ray Henry
That is the way I was having to run it with some of the earlier releases. It looks to me like we are addressing these issues with some of the newest ini variables. BTW -- is this THE Ian! The one who tested the backplotter the day after it's first release and found a way to make EMC barf on a N

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-21 Thread John Kasunich
Ryan Hulsker wrote: > I need to lubricate the machine and fix some > wobbles/stickies in my lead screws. > > I am using standard hardware store threaded rod, with the standard > coupler nuts. Any idea what the best way to lubricate them is? I > bought some lithium grease, but have not applied i

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:48:08 -0500, you wrote: > > >There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off > >the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters > >A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. > > Include B as

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:48:08 -0500, you wrote: >There were approximately 148 eligible voters I accidentally left off >the list. These were people with emails starting with the letters >A,C,D,E,G,J,M,P,S. Include B as well, I didn't receive one either ;) Steve Blackmore --

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-21 Thread Andre' Blanchard
In case you are looking for something to play around with here is a 4 axis shape I was messing around with at one time. It does an ellipse in the XY plane and kind of an H shape in the UV. G00 X0. Y4. U0. V4. G01 X0. Y3. U0. V1. G01 X0.0793 Y2.9976 U0.2667 V1.000

[Emc-users] A-axis

2007-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gene wrote... <<<>> My A axis seems to work OK - I can run my script (as far as it goes so far) and the displayed position and the apparent position of the work appear to be right. There is one thing which really bugs me though and that is that neither the A or the Z will home or touch

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS Power Button

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 11:32 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Other than obviously enabling the AXIS interface, what is the power > button meant to do? > > Kirk Wallace I think http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?MazakPowerOnOff esplains it: ... snip When the user clicks the GUI "Machine

Re: [Emc-users] AXIS Power Button

2007-08-21 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Kirk Wallace wrote: >Other than obviously enabling the AXIS interface, what is the power >button meant to do? > > Actually, it doesn't enable the interface - that's a side effect ;) EMC2 has three states of being (some poorly named, but I won't get into that): 1) ESTOP - EMC2 will not comman

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Gentlemen, >[snip] >I will appreciate the opportunity to vote but as I know how I will >vote I can see my vote will not change the outcome. > > It could, if the 148 people missed are all avid voters :) - Steve >thanks :) >Stuart > >

[Emc-users] AXIS Power Button

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
Other than obviously enabling the AXIS interface, what is the power button meant to do? Kirk Wallace - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
This thread brings to mind that it would be nice to have a "skins" feature. Let's say, ACME Precision, Inc. is a Haas shop and would like to use EMC to convert an old unused Fadal. The person doing the conversion would most likely not be the person running the machine so the operator would be best

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, You will notice I said 'gentlemen'. We are not all from Florida but it seems as if most of us are approaching 'geezerhood'. :) I was not ranting about not getting to vote. I was answering the 'for what is is worth - I vote' statement. I was making clear my 'who votes' statement w

Re: [Emc-users] m101 Turret Program

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
Doooh...I remembered this morning that anything from iocontrol.X is in user space. My original concern stemmed from an application where I was controlling an antenna rotor using "sleep" to control the timing of a 60 Hz two phase signal. The motion would be erratic depending on the system load. The

Re: [Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
Hello Chris, I assume you downloaded an .iso file? This file is an image of the CD that you want. Many times when you create a CD, the CD burning software just copies the file to the CD as a file. What is needed is for the CD burning software to be told to use the .iso to create the new (boot-able)

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-21 Thread Ryan Hulsker
> Please keep us updated about your progress with XYUV. > > (As far as I know, your foam machine is another milestone for EMC2.) > > Chris Well, I got everything up and running last night, and after playing with my g-code for a bit, and trying to figure out the right combination of feed rate and

Re: [Emc-users] tool turret ideas

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thank you Chris. Sometimes these little bits of information make all the difference. I did not get this searching linuxcnc.org so either, I did not search well enough, or I need to put the information on the wiki somewhere. I hope to be able to document the whole HNC conversion in a month or two, s

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Kenneth Lerman
I disagree with the defenders who say it is not a kludge. It is a kludge. It was when I wrote it and it is now. The reason that these features must begin with an o-word is very simple. It made it easier to change the parser. The code simply tests if the line begins with an o-word. If it does, it

[Emc-users] loading emc-unbuntu

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Mason
I have downloaded the software on two different cd's. Neither will boot the machine nor can I get the files to do anything in windows xp. Help!! cm - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through lo

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the > list from the web-based administration interface for the emc-users and > emc-developers mailing lists on sourceforge. > > This list has a different web page for every letter/number of the > alphabet, and I co

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: I think with a hollow electrode with a drip feed >>scheme through the electrode it would go a lot faster. > > > Theres always that 'yabut' Jon, in this case yabut where can I find one of > those? :) > Hollow electrode? I get

[Emc-users] To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

2007-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ray Henry said.. There are some issues with g0 for a rotary axis > Hello Ray, What are these issues? I have been using G0 for the rotary in my recent attempts at scripts - should I use G1 and a high feedrate instead? Thanks, -- Best wishes, Ian Ian W. Wright Sheffield UK

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Gene, On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: >> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts & probably 100 ma >>> average, I >>> found that spinning the electrode at around 1k rpms seemed to add >>> enough >>

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Alan Condit
Michel, On Aug 21, 2007, at Aug 21, 2007--5:27 AM, mgouget wrote: > But, for small jobs like surfacing, pocketing or making holes, I > found that > creating gcode is longer that doing the job by hand. > Michel I created a starter file over time with a bunch of macros that I use regularly. I

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed vs. G0

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Ray Henry wrote: >Hello Gene > >The rapid velocity set for any axis in the ini file is the max velocity >that a properly executed motion command can achieve. Thanks Ray, but I'm not sure if that clarifies it to me. What is that variables name? >Feedrate override >gre

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 08:11 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote: >On Tuesday 21 August 2007, mgouget wrote: > >Binding EMC2 to a *real* language seems an *excellent* idea to me. > > > > > > > >RS274 is an antique language. Adding O words, named parameters and special > >comments, although very useful when nothing else is availab

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed vs. G0

2007-08-21 Thread Ray Henry
Hello Gene The rapid velocity set for any axis in the ini file is the max velocity that a properly executed motion command can achieve. Feedrate override greater than 100% does not increase that speed. Commanding rapid for more than one axis at a time will result in greater speed along the diag

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I think I now know why I didn't see a ballot. Thanks John K. I have my email set to filter email. Since Michael is not in my address book I wouldn't have seen an email from him. This has happened before. I will try to be more aware in the future. thanks Stuart --

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Chris Radek wrote: >Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the >emc-developers list is eligible to vote. > >That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. >Let me explain. > >I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the >list from the web

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Radek wrote: > Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the > emc-developers list is eligible to vote. > > That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. > Let me explain. > > I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the > list from

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Thomas J Powderly wrote: >air ir s bad dielectric, it forces you to get much closer to the work before > the disharge occurs use a 'parrafinic' like kerosene. > >connect your air to a 'paint pot' full of kerosene and get a brass tube >you now have high pressure flush > >r

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Radek
Stuart, everyone who participates on this list and/or the emc-developers list is eligible to vote. That being said, due to a mistake I made, I've created a little mess. Let me explain. I generated the list of emails to give Michael by copy/pasting the list from the web-based administration interf

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Thomas J Powderly
commercial unit, 1mmdia tubing, average current near 25 amps is acceptable ( not optimal ) so 1 amp is dang slow tomp - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop.

[Emc-users] wedm uv motion is relative to xy

2007-08-21 Thread Thomas J Powderly
in wedm the u&v are not only parallel to x&y they are carried by x&y meaning they are incremental to x&y i think that idea isnt being considered by the guys working in emc/wedm as it is fundemental to the kins and never was stated the u&v often have near a cm of stroke the x&y might have meters '

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread John Kasunich
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > My question "Who votes?" was not a cynical, rhetorical, apathetic > comment. It was a legitimate question. I saw no ballot. I saw no > email. I did not have the opportunity to vote. > I will now expand on the first question. That way there will be NO >

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Thomas J Powderly
air ir s bad dielectric, it forces you to get much closer to the work before the disharge occurs use a 'parrafinic' like kerosene. connect your air to a 'paint pot' full of kerosene and get a brass tube you now have high pressure flush rig up a holder to chick up one end and a hole in it to conn

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, My question "Who votes?" was not a cynical, rhetorical, apathetic comment. It was a legitimate question. I saw no ballot. I saw no email. I did not have the opportunity to vote. I will now expand on the first question. That way there will be NO confusion as to the meaning of or t

Re: [Emc-users] Jog speed vs. G0

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, mgouget wrote: >Dear All, > > > >It seems that the speed achieved when jogging is higher than what is >achieved when using G0. > > > >Is it by design? And if so, why? Correct me if I'm wrong guy's but I believe G0 speed is the 'default" settings in the .ini file. The m

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, mgouget wrote: >Binding EMC2 to a *real* language seems an *excellent* idea to me. > > > >RS274 is an antique language. Adding O words, named parameters and special >comments, although very useful when nothing else is available, is only a >kludge... > I highly disagree wi

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Gentlemen, >We cheat. The edm uses through the spindle/tool flushing and >dielectric oil. The electrode is a copper tube. The tube is not >completely hollow. The tube has a web in the center of it. This allows >it to remove the whole plug inst

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Dale
John, John Prentice wrote: > Greetings Steve et al > > Congrats. on election result (to you and others of course) > > >>I'd say that flash, although it's more or less fine for media, has no >>place in the requirements list for EMC2 :) There are any number of fine >>programming languages and en

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Dale
Ron, IMHO I'd say that's the best appraoch. Whatever you choose to display or whatever language you wish to program with can easily send the proper commands to EMC. Then EMC can do what it does best, control the machine. Dale Ron Ginger wrote: >>What I do find disturbing is the attempt to bypass

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread Dale
Ray, Fanuc used the O word to be the program name or filename and one could be called and used by another. I could possibly find an example of the advanced (advanced as per about 10~15 years ago) capabilities of the Fanuc I used to run if you wish. The versions of the controls on two of the mach

Re: [Emc-users] voting

2007-08-21 Thread Dale
For what it's worth, I do Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > Who votes? > thanks > Stuart > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search

Re: [Emc-users] m101 Turret Program

2007-08-21 Thread Jeff Epler
G4 delays in gcode and "sleep" delays in shell scripts are both non-realtime. The delay you get will always be at least .2 seconds, but may be longer. Jeff - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping thro

Re: [Emc-users] board election results

2007-08-21 Thread Alex Joni
Thanks for everyone who voted :) > Congrats to the newly elected board members! I think... ;-) > > And a big thanks to Michael! I'll join in on the thanks to Michael. It was really the perfect voting setup. Keep the requests for the board coming. We'll be happy to answer them all. Regards, Al

Re: [Emc-users] board election results

2007-08-21 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Congrats to the newly elected board members! I think... ;-) And a big thanks to Michael! Mark At 09:57 PM 8/20/2007, you wrote: >The voting has been closed and the results counted. The final tally is >as follows: > > 63 Alex Joni > 60 Chris Radek > 58 John Kasunich > 55 Jeff Epler >

[Emc-users] Jog speed vs. G0

2007-08-21 Thread mgouget
Dear All, It seems that the speed achieved when jogging is higher than what is achieved when using G0. Is it by design? And if so, why? Best regards, Michel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread mgouget
Binding EMC2 to a *real* language seems an *excellent* idea to me. RS274 is an antique language. Adding O words, named parameters and special comments, although very useful when nothing else is available, is only a kludge... The only advantage of RS274 is that it is normalised, and that man

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders with steppers

2007-08-21 Thread mgouget
Thanks to all who replied for the very good information. To summarise: - Adding encoders to steppers can be done, and HAL has all the components needed. using encoder-PID-freqgen creates basically a "servo system with steppers". Freqgen has parameters for capping velocity and acceleration.

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-21 Thread John Prentice
Greetings Steve et al Congrats. on election result (to you and others of course) > > I'd say that flash, although it's more or less fine for media, has no > place in the requirements list for EMC2 :) There are any number of fine > programming languages and environments to use for the UI. I'm no

[Emc-users] tool turret ideas

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Morley
Kirk When Emc gets a T word it puts a true on iocontrol.o.tool-prepare then expects a true back on incontrol.0.tool-prepared. They are usually just hooked together, It's the same with M6 - iocontrol.0.tool-changeiocontrol.0.tool-changed You could use these pins to index your tur

Re: [Emc-users] m101 Turret Program

2007-08-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 06:17 +, Chris Morley wrote: > Hey Kirk > > Just cause I'm curious, Why didn't you use classicladder to select > tools from your turret? It has timers good to 100ms min. Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about Classic Ladder, so I tend to use what I know. I have