Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread jcombs
Kirk, Yes, I have used the dampers and they work well. My motors at home don't have the dual shafts. I made due with some old motors. Things are working well for me right now without them. I could run faster if I had them on the motors. Here are work, I have seen the results and it's not

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread jcombs
Please, I did not in any way mean to be unfair to EMC. I did not mean it in that way at all. EMC is a fantastic program. What I mean is that by doing the electronic gearing there is no way to avoid a condition where a stepper motor is operating at a step rate where resonance is present. It

[Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end...

2008-03-10 Thread Ben Dugan
I'm pretty sure I've seen this asked before, but I couldn't find it in the archives for this mail list. I'm running EMC2. I get this error on lines with G2 or G3 in them. (The code is output from Synergy). If I get this error, is there still a setting (like INCH_TOLERANCE) that will relax the

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end...

2008-03-10 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Ben, Remember, Synergy does things differently. It writes code that is offset by cutter radius and also uses G41/G42. This means the tool table diameters need to be zero. Small deviations are then entered into the tool table to compensate for sharpening or small adjustments in

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 10:49 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, I did not in any way mean to be unfair to EMC. I did not mean it in that way at all. EMC is a fantastic program. What I mean is that by doing the electronic gearing there is no way to avoid a condition where a stepper

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end...

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
So far, I have used Synergy to draw the part, then draw the tool paths and use the path way points to write G-code. That method may not be usable for complex parts, but I suppose it lets you use tool compensation. I have only written a few programs, so writing programs by hand is probably good,

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, I did not in any way mean to be unfair to EMC. I did not mean it in that way at all. EMC is a fantastic program. What I mean is that by doing the electronic gearing there is no way to avoid a condition where a stepper motor is operating

Re: [Emc-users] fanuc

2008-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
patrice.vallade Vallade wrote: Is il possible to use emc2 whit a Fanuc, but i dont now what sort of fanuc it is. Fanuc makes machine controls, not machine tools. EMC is usually used to REPLACE a dead machine tool control unit. We replaced the Fanuc control on a Mazak VMC-5 at Roland

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end...

2008-03-10 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Kirk, I have two EMC posts on my machine. The standard one labeled EMC and one that uses R rather than I,J for circular interp. D On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: So far, I have used Synergy to draw the part, then draw the tool paths and use the path way points to write

[Emc-users] Serial Encoders

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
I am looking into adding a knob for setting spindle speed manually. This serial encoder is close to what I am looking for: http://www.usdigital.com/products/a2/ but is over-kill and way too expensive. Does anyone have a link to an 8 or 10 bit serial (SPI like) absolute encoder? I checked Digikey

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 10:49 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, I did not in any way mean to be unfair to EMC. I did not mean it in that way at all. EMC is a fantastic program. What I mean is that by doing the electronic gearing there is no

Re: [Emc-users] Serial Encoders

2008-03-10 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: I am looking into adding a knob for setting spindle speed manually. This serial encoder is close to what I am looking for: http://www.usdigital.com/products/a2/ but is over-kill and way too expensive. Does anyone have a link to an 8 or 10 bit serial (SPI like) absolute

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread jcombs
Gene, I may have to investigate adding dampers like you have done. I didn't consider adding it between the motor and the machine. I had always seen dampers on the back side of the steppers. Jim C - This SF.net email is

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gene, I may have to investigate adding dampers like you have done. I didn't consider adding it between the motor and the machine. I had always seen dampers on the back side of the steppers. Jim C Those aren't dampers on the work end of the

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end

2008-03-10 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Does Synergy's post allow you to specify the end point of the arc to be exactly on the circle? The distance between the starting point and the center of the radius AND the distance between the ending point and the center of the radius must match. I don't know the numeric

Re: [Emc-users] Serial Encoders

2008-03-10 Thread ben lipkowitz
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, John Kasunich wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: I am looking into adding a knob for setting spindle speed manually. This serial encoder is close to what I am looking for: http://www.usdigital.com/products/a2/ but is over-kill and way too expensive. Does anyone have a link to

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread rehenry
Been reading through some old stuff recently and found the graphic I put in pastebin at http://imagebin.ca/view/clpgA5sW.html. It was in the graduate theses that Sagar wrote on his EMC propelled SCARA robot. IMO the zero torque portion of the speed/torque curve on the full step graph ought to

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 12:55 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: ...snip No, it can serve to absorb it, quite well from my experiences so far. Common sense says the weight of the damper will lower that frequency somewhat also. ... snip Yes, I agree. I must

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end

2008-03-10 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Stuart, I have to play dumb here. I just let Synergy do it's thing. I didn't find anything in the post. If you draw it correctly it seems synergy will do it. I think emc is double precision internally. Plenty of resolution. :-) Someone will correct me if this is incorrect. ;-) Dave On Mar

Re: [Emc-users] Serial Encoders

2008-03-10 Thread rehenry
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ben lipkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Serial Encoders Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:46:26 + (UTC) ...if you do need an inexpensive absolute encoder, austria microsystems

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 12:27 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: ...snip You can see mine at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc along with the rest of the old farts messy machineing corner in my wood working shop. That *was* an HF MicroMill at one point in past history, not sure what it should be

Re: [Emc-users] Radius to start differs from radius to end

2008-03-10 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 01:01 PM 3/10/2008, you wrote: Gentlemen, Does Synergy's post allow you to specify the end point of the arc to be exactly on the circle? The distance between the starting point and the center of the radius AND the distance between the ending point and the center of the radius must match.

[Emc-users] Small CNC Build

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
Aram, (or anyone interested) I got to thinking about your CNC project. One way to save money and get help, might be to get a group of people together that want the same type of machine. Each member could contribute their skill or money to the cause. Each person contributes, each person gets a

Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-10 Thread John Thornton
No problem Dale. BTW, what is being controlled by the PLC now? John On 10 Mar 2008 at 6:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I will make the list in the next 2 or 3 weeks. By then I will finish reading HAL/Classic Ladder and then start the PLC program. If I have problems can I get

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 12:55 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: ...snip No, it can serve to absorb it, quite well from my experiences so far. Common sense says the weight of the damper will lower that frequency

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 12:27 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: ...snip You can see mine at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc along with the rest of the old farts messy machineing corner in my wood working shop. That *was* an HF MicroMill at one point

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been reading through some old stuff recently and found the graphic I put in pastebin at http://imagebin.ca/view/clpgA5sW.html. It was in the graduate theses that Sagar wrote on his EMC propelled SCARA robot. IMO the zero torque portion of the

[Emc-users] pwm-0-gen problems

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I'm in the process of hooking up one of Steve Stallings #106 spindle controllers, and have run into either a config problem, a buglet or a hardware problem. I thought it might be a bios vs parport thing, and when I checked, I found the bios was setting it for SPP, so I changed

Re: [Emc-users] pwm-0-gen problems

2008-03-10 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I'm in the process of hooking up one of Steve Stallings #106 spindle controllers, and have run into either a config problem, a buglet or a hardware problem. I thought it might be a bios vs parport thing, and when I checked, I found the bios was

Re: [Emc-users] pwm-0-gen problems

2008-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 March 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 20:15 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I'm in the process of hooking up one of Steve Stallings #106 spindle ... snip So, what do I check next folks? Divide and conquer. Pwmgen is known to

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper speed

2008-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been reading through some old stuff recently and found the graphic I put in pastebin at http://imagebin.ca/view/clpgA5sW.html. It was in the graduate theses that Sagar wrote on his EMC propelled SCARA robot. IMO the zero torque portion of the speed/torque curve on

Re: [Emc-users] Serial Encoders

2008-03-10 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Since you're convinced you want a quadrature encoder now, here's a link: :) http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=GH6102-ND I've used these before, and they're good, robust controls. They have detents (pretty good clicky ones), and the switch is also a pushbutton

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Index

2008-03-10 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 16:29 -0700, Curtis W. Moore wrote: If I added pulses can it be done? My encoder is just a homebuilt opto switch. Cutting out a new wheel with more slots/holes would be trivial. Can EMC thread with just one train of pulses? Ie use just one pin of the

Re: [Emc-users] pwm-0-gen problems

2008-03-10 Thread Chris Morley
I haven't even gotten that far, this is trying to use axis to enable it and 'spin' it by issueing the pwm and dir sigs. I don't have the outputs of Steve's card even connected to the spindle controller card yet, I'm at the point of trying to get the card to actually recognize that its

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Index

2008-03-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 22:38 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 16:29 -0700, Curtis W. Moore wrote: If I added pulses can it be done? My encoder is just a homebuilt opto switch. Cutting out a new wheel with more slots/holes would be trivial.