Re: [Emc-users] A minor feature request

2014-06-06 Thread Charles Buckley
In that case, wouldn't it not be easier to just be able to configure the DISPLAY variable in stepconf? Charles Buckley On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 June 2014 17:18, Charles Buckley wrote: > > > > Not sure of anyone has ever mentioned this and it is really just a

Re: [Emc-users] A minor feature request

2014-06-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 June 2014 17:18, Charles Buckley wrote: > Not sure of anyone has ever mentioned this and it is really just a small > annoyance, but I would really love it if when I edit an existing config in > stepconf that it did not overwrite the "DISPLAY=XXX" with "DISPLAY=axis". Unfortunately Stepc

[Emc-users] A minor feature request

2014-06-06 Thread Charles Buckley
Hello, Not sure of anyone has ever mentioned this and it is really just a small annoyance, but I would really love it if when I edit an existing config in stepconf that it did not overwrite the "DISPLAY=XXX" with "DISPLAY=axis". Or, am I just not seeing how to keep it from doing that? Charles B

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-18 Thread yann jautard
I have one of these chinese crimpers, I use it quite often when installing big batteries on solar systems. Very powerful, I also use it to crimp inox fittings on cables, or hydraulics, etc On metal like Al, copper or brass I'm sure it will work nicely to press coins :) Le 18/04/2014 11:27, Ge

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 April 2014 05:23:24 andy pugh did opine: > On 15 April 2014 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Not a bad idea, but how many tons needed for the bottle jack? > > Actually, I have just had one of these delivered (to be dismantled and > used as part of a different project). > http://www.eb

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-18 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2014 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > Not a bad idea, but how many tons needed for the bottle jack? Actually, I have just had one of these delivered (to be dismantled and used as part of a different project). http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-Ton-Hydraulic-Wire-Battery-Cable-Lug-Terminal-Crimper

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:05:03 +0200, you wrote: > >Le 17/04/2014 09:08, Steve Blackmore a écrit : >> >> Modern panels are designed to work in daylight and don't need full >> Sunlight. >> >Well not really. There two main technologies, cristalline and amorphous. > >Cristalline cells needs full sunlig

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-18 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/18/2014 12:05 AM, yann jautard wrote: > > Le 17/04/2014 09:08, Steve Blackmore a écrit : >> >> Modern panels are designed to work in daylight and don't need full >> Sunlight. >> > Well not really. There two main technologies, cristalline and amorphous. > > Cristalline cells needs full sunlight

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-17 Thread yann jautard
Le 17/04/2014 09:08, Steve Blackmore a écrit : > > Modern panels are designed to work in daylight and don't need full > Sunlight. > Well not really. There two main technologies, cristalline and amorphous. Cristalline cells needs full sunlight to deliver some usable power. Their efficiency is bet

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 April 2014 06:28:32 Steve Blackmore did opine: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:03:23 -0400, you wrote: > >On Wednesday 16 April 2014 18:56:52 jeremy youngs did opine: > >> gene, ive been ogling one of jon elsons servo controllers for my > >> treadmill motored mill . but alas i want to do t

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 April 2014 06:22:07 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > On 4/16/2014 11:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:05:29 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > >> On 4/16/2014 7:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> I am waiting for an LP bracket for the 5i25. > >> > >> Full height bracke

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-17 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:03:23 -0400, you wrote: >On Wednesday 16 April 2014 18:56:52 jeremy youngs did opine: > >> gene, ive been ogling one of jon elsons servo controllers for my >> treadmill motored mill . but alas i want to do that upgrade after the >> 1000 $ to ship the mill to home in missouri

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/16/2014 11:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:05:29 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > >> On 4/16/2014 7:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> I am waiting for an LP bracket for the 5i25. >> >> Full height bracket + bench vise + hammer + Dremel + cutoff wheel = low >> profile bracket.

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:45:07 Gene Heskett did opine: > On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:14:31 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > > On 4/16/2014 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > > On 16 April 2014 16:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> Is it worth wasting money on another? > > > > > > Possibly, mine has none

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/16/2014 9:55 AM, yann jautard wrote: > yeah there was some mistakes, and I kept the default font in inkscape. > Not the nicer one, right. > > But it took me approx. 2 minutes to produce the NGC file using inkscape > and gcodetools. It was more intended as a "proof of concept" than a > usable f

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:14:31 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > On 4/16/2014 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 16 April 2014 16:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Is it worth wasting money on another? > > > > Possibly, mine has none of those problems. > > What that a BernzOmatic or a Burns O Matic? If

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 April 2014 01:05:29 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > On 4/16/2014 7:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am waiting for an LP bracket for the 5i25. > > Full height bracket + bench vise + hammer + Dremel + cutoff wheel = low > profile bracket. :) True, and of coarse I have all that but what

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/16/2014 9:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 16 April 2014 16:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Is it worth wasting money on another? > > Possibly, mine has none of those problems. > What that a BernzOmatic or a Burns O Matic? If it's not Bernz it's not the genuine torch. I have some Bernz torches th

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/16/2014 7:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > I am waiting for an LP bracket for the 5i25. Full height bracket + bench vise + hammer + Dremel + cutoff wheel = low profile bracket. :) -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FRE

Re: [Emc-users] A round tuit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 22:16:39 Kyle Kerr did opine: > Try this on for size. > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28951892/round-tuit.dxf > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28951892/round-tuit.svg > With a bit more work I could improve the file a bit. The svg looks fine. Saved of course.

Re: [Emc-users] A round tuit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Kyle Kerr
Try this on for size. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28951892/round-tuit.dxf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28951892/round-tuit.svg With a bit more work I could improve the file a bit. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 04/15/2014 10:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 18:56:52 jeremy youngs did opine: > gene, ive been ogling one of jon elsons servo controllers for my > treadmill motored mill . but alas i want to do that upgrade after the > 1000 $ to ship the mill to home in missouri. it seems almost purpose > made for the application.

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread jeremy youngs
gene, ive been ogling one of jon elsons servo controllers for my treadmill motored mill . but alas i want to do that upgrade after the 1000 $ to ship the mill to home in missouri. it seems almost purpose made for the application. i have been waiting to get the mill there as i have been building sol

Re: [Emc-users] A Mostly Newbie Question ... LinuxCNC support of delta positioners

2014-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2014 21:58, YES NOPE9 wrote: > #1 Does LinuxCNC support delta positions ( 3 arm overhead positioners ) In theory LinuxCNC supports almost any kinematics, but some need more work than others, up to and including writing a kinematics routine. There is a new "lineardeltakins" in one of

[Emc-users] A Mostly Newbie Question ... LinuxCNC support of delta positioners

2014-04-16 Thread YES NOPE9
#1 Does LinuxCNC support delta positions ( 3 arm overhead positioners ) #2 Is anyone ( or has anyone ) worked on a delta based CNC device that has a working range of 4 feet by 8 beet by 2 feet vertical ? Best 99guspuppet Gus in Denver -

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Ralph Stirling
53 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator On Wednesday 16 April 2014 16:47:57 yann jautard did opine: > Le 16/04/2014 18:20, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Great. And it sound like I might even be able to do it. > > Yes, sure you will.

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 16:47:57 yann jautard did opine: > Le 16/04/2014 18:20, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Great. And it sound like I might even be able to do it. > > Yes, sure you will. Incredibly easy to use once you get a little used to > it. Documentation on the russian forum helps a lot,

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread yann jautard
Le 16/04/2014 18:20, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Great. And it sound like I might even be able to do it. > Yes, sure you will. Incredibly easy to use once you get a little used to it. Documentation on the russian forum helps a lot, and if it's not enough, the forum is quite reactive and you get

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:21:21 yann jautard did opine: > Better with the pictures :) > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p180x540/5 > 57110_10151045145652130_669813147_n.jpg > > https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/s720x720/150321_ > 10151045

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:18:53 yann jautard did opine: > yeah there was some mistakes, and I kept the default font in inkscape. > Not the nicer one, right. > > But it took me approx. 2 minutes to produce the NGC file using inkscape > and gcodetools. It was more intended as a "proof of concep

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:16:23 sam sokolik did opine: > quick break down of amc part numbers (of the series that work well with > linuxcnc).. > > (here is a better example) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Advanced-Motion-Controls-30A20ACT-brush-type-pwm > -servo-amplifier-/291113520764?pt=LH_Defau

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:04:58 Kirk Wallace did opine: > On 04/16/2014 08:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 April 2014 11:02:03 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 16 April 2014 02:37, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> So I would have to build a rocket stove. or cobble up a charcoal > >>> forg

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread yann jautard
Better with the pictures :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p180x540/557110_10151045145652130_669813147_n.jpg https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/s720x720/150321_10151045141412130_995988124_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread yann jautard
yeah there was some mistakes, and I kept the default font in inkscape. Not the nicer one, right. But it took me approx. 2 minutes to produce the NGC file using inkscape and gcodetools. It was more intended as a "proof of concept" than a usable file. I often use it for several works, like engra

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
quick break down of amc part numbers (of the series that work well with linuxcnc).. (here is a better example) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Advanced-Motion-Controls-30A20ACT-brush-type-pwm-servo-amplifier-/291113520764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c7b7ce7c 30A20ACT [B[E]]xxAyy[AC] xx is the pea

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/16/2014 08:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2014 11:02:03 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 16 April 2014 02:37, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> So I would have to build a rocket stove. or cobble up a charcoal >>> forge. >> >> You may be under-estimating the power of a MAPP gas torch. >

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 11:30:16 sam sokolik did opine: > what are the requirements for the treadmill motor? I would think you > could get a nice AMC servo drive (with integrated supply) off ebay to > run it for way under $300 if you are a little patient... > > ie - (and I think this is expen

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 11:12:06 sam sokolik did opine: > what are the requirements for the treadmill motor? 9 am circuit breaker, about 7.5 run at full load, 1 hp. > I would think you > could get a nice AMC servo drive (with integrated supply) off ebay to > run it for way under $300 if you

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2014 16:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is it worth wasting money on another? Possibly, mine has none of those problems. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Learn Gra

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 11:02:03 andy pugh did opine: > On 16 April 2014 02:37, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So I would have to build a rocket stove. or cobble up a charcoal > > forge. > > You may be under-estimating the power of a MAPP gas torch. I have one of them, but the valves are junk, its

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 10:50:31 yann jautard did opine: > Is that one OK ? > > J'ai lié 2 fichiers à ce message : > round.svg (469 > Ko)YouSendIt > http://www.hightail.com/download/elNLRGw2V3Ji > V3hwdmNUQw ro

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 10:02:49 yann jautard did opine: > Is that one OK ? > > J'ai lié 2 fichiers à ce message : > round.svg (469 > Ko)YouSendIt > http://www.hightail.com/download/elNLRGw2V3Ji > V3hwdmNUQw ro

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
actually that picture doesn't jive with the b25a20ac part number... but you catch my drift.. sam On 04/16/2014 08:47 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > what are the requirements for the treadmill motor? I would think you > could get a nice AMC servo drive (with integrated supply) off ebay to > run it for

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread sam sokolik
what are the requirements for the treadmill motor? I would think you could get a nice AMC servo drive (with integrated supply) off ebay to run it for way under $300 if you are a little patient... ie - (and I think this is expensive...) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Advanced-Motion-Controls-Brushless

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 April 2014 09:27:35 Mark Wendt did opine: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need > > > a quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one si

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2014 02:37, Gene Heskett wrote: > So I would have to build a rocket stove. or cobble up a charcoal forge. You may be under-estimating the power of a MAPP gas torch. Last night I managed to heat a section of a forging to red heat to straighten it. I needed to assemble my vermiculite t

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread yann jautard
Is that one OK ? J'ai lié 2 fichiers à ce message : round.svg (469 Ko)YouSendIt http://www.hightail.com/download/elNLRGw2V3JiV3hwdmNUQw round_0001.ngc (1

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a > > quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side > > What you need is a coining die, then you can make as many

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-16 Thread yann jautard
Le 15/04/2014 22:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : > ISTR seeing inkscape can do the circular text bit, even OOw might be > able to, but how to translate that into gcode? I don't recall seeing > an inkscape to gcode utility. GcodeTools plugin for inkscape will do it. Works perfectly, I use it quite o

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 21:36:08 andy pugh did opine: > On 15 April 2014 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Not a bad idea, but how many tons needed for the bottle jack? > > That's not how the ones I have seen work. They just had a falling > weight in something looking a bit like a guillotine. > >

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2014 21:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > Not a bad idea, but how many tons needed for the bottle jack? That's not how the ones I have seen work. They just had a falling weight in something looking a bit like a guillotine. > I assume the dies would be good hardened steel. Can that be edm'd?

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/15/2014 2:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2014 15:19:59 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a >>> quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side >> >> What yo

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 4/15/2014 11:46 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a >> quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side > > What you need is a coining die, then you can make as many as you want.

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 16:47:57 Ralph Stirling did opine: > Yep. There is a nice g-code generator for Inkscape. It is > called gcodetools, and it was written by a Russian fellow. > > http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35 > > I've used it mostly for a demo I do occasionally for kids

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Ralph Stirling
Ralph From: Gene Heskett [ghesk...@wdtv.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:25 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator On Tuesday 15 April 2014 15:19:59 andy pugh did opine: > On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Hesket

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 15:19:59 andy pugh did opine: > On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a > > quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side > > What you need is a coining die, then you can make as m

Re: [Emc-users] A round tuit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/15/2014 10:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2014 13:05:51 Kirk Wallace did opine: > >> http://yertiz.com/cnc/round.htm > > Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a > quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side > > "This is YOUR round

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2014 18:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a > quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side What you need is a coining die, then you can make as many as you want. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 13:05:51 Kirk Wallace did opine: > http://yertiz.com/cnc/round.htm Chuckle, but that isn't the one I've been looking for, Kirk. I need a quarter sized coin that says in circular text on one side "This is YOUR round tuit" and on the other side "now, next excuse?" I

[Emc-users] A round toit generator

2014-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
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Re: [Emc-users] a bit off topic BBB question

2013-11-23 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 11/23/2013 10:29 AM, Mike Eitel wrote: > Can somebody please give me advise if this is normal? I generally haven't seen errors like that, but I don't often boot the default Angstrom release. I'd recommend making sure your installed OS is up-to-date, and asking your question on the BeagleBoard

[Emc-users] a bit off topic BBB question

2013-11-23 Thread Mike Eitel
Sorry to ask here but I'm out od ideas and now wonder a hw Problem? Some weeks before I used succesfully chalboard 10"LCD with cape. Then just before mounting into housing... no more images I restarted from scratch. Already ordered new bbb but fear to eventually brick that also ? I have a p

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-08 Thread Claude Froidevaux
Le 08.08.2013 05:45, TJoseph Powderly a écrit : > On 08/07/2013 06:34 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: >> >> On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:49, TJoseph Powderly wrote >>> non-linear?, ok >>> i read it repeated to same value from origin, but was consistantly off >>> at some extreme. >>> np. discount bad mounting >> It s

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/07/2013 06:34 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: > > > On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:49, TJoseph Powderly wrote >> non-linear?, ok >> i read it repeated to same value from origin, but was consistantly off >> at some extreme. >> np. discount bad mounting > > It seems that the sine/cosine signals from the scales do

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread Andy Pugh
On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:49, TJoseph Powderly wrote > non-linear?, ok > i read it repeated to same value from origin, but was consistantly off > at some extreme. > np. discount bad mounting It seems that the sine/cosine signals from the scales do not actually repeat every 10um. This is the guy'

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/06/2013 10:44 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Tue, 8/6/13, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > > cosine err? > the motion of the axis must be colinear with the motion of > the scale theres a few pages supplied wiht all Heidenhain scales > describing the mounting techniques and qualifications. >

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/07/2013 04:14 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 7 August 2013 01:14, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > >> cosine err? > > I don't think so. The main reason not to think so is that he has > measured the error as non-linear (I am awaiting the actual numbers) > > A cosine error of .158mm in 50 would mean an in

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 01:14, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > cosine err? I don't think so. The main reason not to think so is that he has measured the error as non-linear (I am awaiting the actual numbers) A cosine error of .158mm in 50 would mean an inclination of 4.5 degrees which seems like it would be

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Tue, 8/6/13, TJoseph Powderly wrote: cosine err? the motion of the axis must be colinear with the motion of the scale theres a few pages supplied wiht all Heidenhain scales describing the mounting techniques and qualifications. i could assume this has been verified, but it would explain

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Tue, 8/6/13, andy pugh wrote: The problem is that the travel distance isn't accurate. A 50mm move is out by 0.158mm. The encoder scale is set to 25600 (10um scales, 256 interpolation). It doesn't seem like it could be missed encoder counts or the repeatability wouldn't be so good. --

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Tue, 8/6/13, andy pugh wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 9:53 AM On 6 August 2013 16:41, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Are the linear scales mechanically adjustable? I wouldn't have th

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/06/2013 10:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I am in discussion with a chap who is retrofiting a Hardinge HXL. It > has linear scales, interpolator boxes set to 256x and is running a > 5i25/7i77 combo. > > The repeatability is good. Actually is is better than good, it returns > to the exact same digi

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 22:50, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > A.885 MHz signal is a 3.41 MHz count rate, > right at the 7I77s limits. > If you set the transition distance to .77 usec, the maximum count rate > will be 1.3 MHz so you will lose counts above 666 mm/min. But I doubt he is moving anything li

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:23:35 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > On 6 August 201

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:23:35 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > On 6 August 201

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 19:47, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Looks like 64X or 32X would be the maximum interpolation ratio without using a > higher mux frequency. 256X requires an equivalent counting frequency of about > 8MHz. This is out of the range of muxed encoders. Are you basing that on the max freq

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:53:45 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > On 6 August 2013

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Dave Caroline
I would be checking direction too, for any mechanical backlash error I use a 2" travel tenths digital dial gauge for that sort of test Dave Caroline -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 18:46, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Do you have the interpolator specifications? https://docs.google.com/file/d/1gap4oQlfy43X7s-AZkXDH8gTI8L8HSQhr2rze8b8SEMmT_EyHwaHr7i8MGu1/edit?usp=sharing > some have quite large quadrature > distortion (large deviations from 90 degree phasing)

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:14:11 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > On 6 August 20

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread dave
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 18:14 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 August 2013 18:02, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > If the scale is off that far you may want to exchange it for a correctly > > functioning scale. > > I think the question is how to isolate the problem. > Between the scale, the interpolator,

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 18:02, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > If the scale is off that far you may want to exchange it for a correctly > functioning scale. I think the question is how to isolate the problem. Between the scale, the interpolator, the 7i77, 7i25, LinuxCNC and PID controller there is quite a lot

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
If the scale is off that far you may want to exchange it for a correctly functioning scale. A certified scale is supposed to be a master gage. When two master gages do not agree there is a problem. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 August 2013 17:37, Stuart Stevenson wr

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 17:37, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Ok then which is correct? The new certified scale or whatever else is being > used to 'check' the scale? I think he is using slip gauges / micrometer length standards and that collet-mounted length probe. 0.158 is not a subtle error. -- atp If

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Andrew wrote: > 2013/8/6 andy pugh > > > The problem is that the travel distance isn't accurate. A 50mm move is > > out by 0.158mm. The encoder scale is set to 25600 (10um scales, 256 > > interpolation). > > > > Is it always 0.158 or it changes with the lenght

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Ok then which is correct? The new certified scale or whatever else is being used to 'check' the scale? On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 August 2013 16:41, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > Are the linear scales mechanically adjustable? > > I wouldn't have thought so, they are

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread sam sokolik
1/25500 = 3.92156X10^-5 * 25600 * 50 = 50.196... did I do that right? not exactly .158 though.. How is he measuring it? latest email 1/25500 = 3.92156X10^-5 * 25600 * 2 = 2.0078 Aprox 70um? sam On 8/6/2013 10:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I am in discussion with a chap who is retrofiting a

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 16:51, Andrew wrote: > Is it always 0.158 or it changes with the lenght? Let him try it slow and > fast etc. He initially reported an error of 70um in 2mm. Though I am not sure if this was with the same instrument. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifix

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 16:41, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Are the linear scales mechanically adjustable? I wouldn't have thought so, they are new Heidenhain scales (with calibration certificate). Part of me is saying he should just tweak the encoder scaling, but the numbers he has look like they should

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:44:12 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > On 6 August 2013 1

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Andrew
2013/8/6 andy pugh > The problem is that the travel distance isn't accurate. A 50mm move is > out by 0.158mm. The encoder scale is set to 25600 (10um scales, 256 > interpolation). > Is it always 0.158 or it changes with the lenght? Let him try it slow and fast etc. Andrew --

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2013 16:36, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > How fast is it going? this may to be close to the limits of the interpolator > and the 7I77 at say 100 mm/sec Would it still return to the same position quite that well in that case? I think he said he is moving it with a jogwheel, so the speed p

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread sam sokolik
Without thinking too much about it... would it not be 255? (in computer terms - you don't start at 0) sam On 8/6/2013 10:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I am in discussion with a chap who is retrofiting a Hardinge HXL. It > has linear scales, interpolator boxes set to 256x and is running a > 5i25/7i7

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Are the linear scales mechanically adjustable? On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I am in discussion with a chap who is retrofiting a Hardinge HXL. It > has linear scales, interpolator boxes set to 256x and is running a > 5i25/7i77 combo. > > The repeatability is good. Actually

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:25:38 +0100 > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] A puzzler > > I am in discussion w

[Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-06 Thread andy pugh
I am in discussion with a chap who is retrofiting a Hardinge HXL. It has linear scales, interpolator boxes set to 256x and is running a 5i25/7i77 combo. The repeatability is good. Actually is is better than good, it returns to the exact same digit on a 0.1um (0.04") length probe every time. ht

Re: [Emc-users] A question for the Unimat owners.

2013-05-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Some more digging shows it must be an earlier version of the Proxxon 24106 compound table. --- On Fri, 5/31/13, John Alexander Stewart wrote: > From: John Alexander Stewart > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] A question for the Unimat owners. > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)&qu

Re: [Emc-users] A question for the Unimat owners.

2013-05-31 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Gregg; The Emco Compact 5 head used to have a table like this for doing as you say. (take head off of lathe and put it on an x/y table) The colour looks like it's from Proxxon; (Proxon??) The issue with these Emco/Unimat heads is the lack of Z depth setting, etc. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:14 A

[Emc-users] A question for the Unimat owners.

2013-05-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Is this an X-Y mill base for a Unimat mill column? Would make a much nicer mill than mounting the headstock on the column over the lathe bed. http://www.PartsByEMC.com/pub/unimat The table is 10-5/8" long. -- Get 100% v

Re: [Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 May 2013 21:06:50 andy pugh did opine: > On 5 May 2013 02:25, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> It seems to me that moving the brushes would be a better solution. > > > > I'll look again tomorrow, but first, it seems the brush holder should > > sit in the center of the pole pieces? > > For

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