Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-23 Thread einar
It looks like it does. But be aware that may require an option card. It does in those I use. They have the connections and protocol, but need the option card to be installed as they do not have the RS485 interface as standard. Regards Einar On 22 Feb 2017 at 11:24, dragon wrote: > Here is a

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-22 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/22/2017 10:24 AM, dragon wrote: > Here is a link to the manual for a VFD that I am considering... > > http://www.hclub.ee/download/varia/KOC100%20Series%20User%20Manual--20150119(V1.1).pdf > > If someone that is familiar with modbus could take a quick look and see > if it looks to support

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-22 Thread dragon
Here is a link to the manual for a VFD that I am considering... http://www.hclub.ee/download/varia/KOC100%20Series%20User%20Manual--20150119(V1.1).pdf If someone that is familiar with modbus could take a quick look and see if it looks to support the standard RTU protocol I would be most

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/15/2017 09:51 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 02/15/2017 08:24 AM, dragon wrote: >> So some more questions about VFDs... >> >> What are the advantages of a sensorless vector drive and is it worth the >> extra cost? >> >> Are there any sensorless vector drives that have a supported modbus

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> So some more questions about VFDs... > > What are the advantages of a sensorless vector drive and is it worth the > extra cost? It is cheaper. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/15/2017 10:51 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > For extra credit, ideally, a VFD component could just describe the > available functions and options for communications. Then Modbus HAL > components could be made for a mix of servers, clients and channels > independently of the device details. I

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/15/2017 08:24 AM, dragon wrote: > So some more questions about VFDs... > > What are the advantages of a sensorless vector drive and is it worth the > extra cost? > > Are there any sensorless vector drives that have a supported modbus driver? > > Is there a list of VFDs with linuxCNC modbus

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/15/2017 09:24 AM, dragon wrote: > Is there a list of VFDs with linuxCNC modbus support somewhere other than... > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VFD_Modbus > > and the HY series of Huanyang drives? I don't know of a good authoritative/exhaustive list of supported VFDs, but that

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread dannym
AFAIK any quality VFD made in the last 5+ yrs will be sensorless vector drive, at basically the same cost as earlier VFDs. Hitachi WJ200 is a sensorless vector drive. It's not super-expensive, and it's a Hitachi. Yes it has a Modbus driver for it. HY has worked ok for people, but I would

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-15 Thread dragon
So some more questions about VFDs... What are the advantages of a sensorless vector drive and is it worth the extra cost? Are there any sensorless vector drives that have a supported modbus driver? Is there a list of VFDs with linuxCNC modbus support somewhere other than...

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-05 Thread dragon
So it looks like perhaps only the 7.5kW model is the new GT series. I don't need anything near that big so if I go with the Huanyang I would be getting the model that uses the existing driver. Looking at the driver docs and code, it looks like there is no way to request the motor load. However

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Chris Morley
ler (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus? Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2017 12:44 PM It would of course be a very good idea to add, do you happen to know which protocol it use? Or what mitsubishe name it? On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:53:09 + Chris Morley &l

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 03 February 2017 13:53:09 Chris Morley wrote: > No I wrote a python HAL program that used the serial port. I used a > converter to convert from rs232 to 485.I referenced Mitsubishi papers > for the protocol. I can add it to linuxcnc if anyone is interested. > > Chris M Please do Chris.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
; To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus? > Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2017 8:43 AM > > > > pyprofibus? > > > On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 02:02:23 + > Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.co

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/03/2017 11:53 AM, Chris Morley wrote: > > No I wrote a python HAL program that used the serial port. I used a > converter to convert from rs232 to 485.I referenced Mitsubishi papers > for the protocol. I can add it to linuxcnc if anyone is interested. I think it would be a good addition

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread Chris Morley
Modbus worked fine enough for testing.Speed and direction is all I was controlling. It was quite a while ago that I did this. Chris M - Reply message - From: "Andrew" <pkm...@gmail.com> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Chris Morley
cklas.karlsso...@gmail.com> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus? Date: Fri, Feb 3, 2017 8:43 AM pyprofibus? On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 02:02:23 + Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
I also have two yaskawa drives but are working on replacing them, I got them running but need to get parameters correct. On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:36:15 +0200 Andrew wrote: > 2017-02-03 4:02 GMT+02:00 Chris Morley: > > > I've also toyed with a Yaskawa drive with Classicladder

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations, pyprofibus?

2017-02-03 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
t; Sent: February 2, 2017 2:35 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations > > I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I > have two 2hp 3 phase motors to use for the spindles. Of course if I came > across a 3hp

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread Andrew
2017-02-03 4:02 GMT+02:00 Chris Morley: > I've also toyed with a Yaskawa drive with Classicladder over modbus. > Was it a success? I have a few Yaskawa VFDs so I would be interested in some details. Andrew -- Check out

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/03/2017 07:34 AM, dragon wrote: > I just re-read this... If modbus is correctly implemented in the GT > series, could you just use MB2HAL? I think the Huanyang GT VFD should talk to any Modbus Master, including MB2HAL. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread dragon
I just re-read this... If modbus is correctly implemented in the GT series, could you just use MB2HAL? On 02/02/2017 10:51 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/02/2017 09:34 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> On 02/02/2017 07:02 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >> >> ... snip >> >>> 2. The LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-03 Thread dragon
If you think that a driver is doable and not far off, it probably doesn't really matter which version I get. For my use I could just manually control spindle speed until the driver is ready. On 02/02/2017 04:21 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/02/2017 03:04 PM, dragon wrote: >> how do you

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Chris Morley
available. Chris M From: dragon <tfishw...@gmail.com> Sent: February 2, 2017 2:35 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I have two 2hp 3 phase

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/02/2017 03:04 PM, dragon wrote: > how do you tell the difference between the older models and the GT series? > > I don't see an actual model number on most of the ebay listings I think you have to ask the seller. The VFD we got came with a manual that says "Huyanyang GT-series" on the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread dragon
how do you tell the difference between the older models and the GT series? I don't see an actual model number on most of the ebay listings On 02/02/2017 10:51 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/02/2017 09:34 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> On 02/02/2017 07:02 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 02 February 2017 11:29:52 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/02/2017 08:45 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 02 February 2017 10:02:59 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >> On 02/02/2017 03:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > >>> I am using a typical eBay HuangYang VFD on the lathe, and it

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 February 2017 at 16:51, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Those Huanyang VFDs sure are inexpensive, but they're also the most > wonky and obstinate VFDs I've ever worked with. You haven't used the Lovato one that I had on my lathe first. I could never get it to run the motor

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2017 10:06 AM, James Reed wrote: > The spindle brake is usually something that holds the spindle after stopping. > I believe my Bridgeport has a ratchet which engages a gear. Obviously, I > don't want to try to use that to bring the spindle to a stop. > > All of the Bridgeports I've

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2017 09:42 AM, dragon wrote: > Ed Fanta does rigid tapping on his CHNC. I don't believe that he has a > breaking resistor on the VFD even. IIRC I watched the output of the > SPINx1 and it just goes from a + voltage to a - voltage and does not > "stop" he does have a fairly high line count

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/02/2017 09:34 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 02/02/2017 07:02 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > ... snip > >> 2. The LinuxCNC Huanyang driver only works with the older style of >> Huanyang VFDs. It does not work with the newer GT-series models. I'm >> working on a new driver for Huanyang

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/02/2017 08:45 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 02 February 2017 10:02:59 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >> On 02/02/2017 03:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>> I am using a typical eBay HuangYang VFD on the lathe, and it works >>> nicely with the HAL module (even though it isn't _actually_ real

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/02/2017 07:02 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: ... snip > 2. The LinuxCNC Huanyang driver only works with the older style of > Huanyang VFDs. It does not work with the newer GT-series models. I'm > working on a new driver for Huanyang GT VFDs, but it's not ready yet. Did you have a plan

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread Ed
On 02/02/2017 09:42 AM, dragon wrote: > Ed Fanta does rigid tapping on his CHNC. I don't believe that he has a > breaking resistor on the VFD even. IIRC I watched the output of the > SPINx1 and it just goes from a + voltage to a - voltage and does not > "stop" he does have a fairly high line count

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 02 February 2017 10:29:11 Jim Craig wrote: > On 2/2/2017 9:13 AM, John Thornton wrote: > > I also have an Automation Direct GS2 on my BP knee mill and rigid > > tap with it (need the braking resistor). > > > > JT > > John, > > That is an interesting point. I am getting ready to add

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread James Reed
ursday, February 2, 2017 3:29 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake. On 2/2/2017 9:13 AM, John Thornton wrote: > I also have an Automation Direct GS2 on my BP knee mill and rigid tap > with it (need the brak

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 02 February 2017 10:02:59 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/02/2017 03:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > I am using a typical eBay HuangYang VFD on the lathe, and it works > > nicely with the HAL module (even though it isn't _actually_ real > > modbus, or so I have heard) > > Some eBay

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread dragon
Ed Fanta does rigid tapping on his CHNC. I don't believe that he has a breaking resistor on the VFD even. IIRC I watched the output of the SPINx1 and it just goes from a + voltage to a - voltage and does not "stop" he does have a fairly high line count BEI(?) encoder on the spindle. It works very

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations - braking resistor vs mechanical brake.

2017-02-02 Thread Jim Craig
On 2/2/2017 9:13 AM, John Thornton wrote: > I also have an Automation Direct GS2 on my BP knee mill and rigid tap > with it (need the braking resistor). > > JT John, That is an interesting point. I am getting ready to add gear tooth sensors on the bull gear so I can rigid tap. I don't have a

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread John Thornton
I also have an Automation Direct GS2 on my BP knee mill and rigid tap with it (need the braking resistor). JT On 2/1/2017 9:00 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/01/2017 07:35 PM, dragon wrote: >> I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I >> have two 2hp 3 phase

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/02/2017 03:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > I am using a typical eBay HuangYang VFD on the lathe, and it works > nicely with the HAL module (even though it isn't _actually_ real > modbus, or so I have heard) > Some eBay adverts make a point of stressing that they are selling > genuine HuangYang,

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread dragon
I did notice those on ebay and had seen that there was a driver for them. The price is very tempting. Especially since these are not mission critical or production machines. On 02/02/2017 04:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 February 2017 at 02:35, dragon wrote: >> Are there

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread Jim Craig
On 2/1/2017 9:00 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/01/2017 07:35 PM, dragon wrote: >> I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I >> have two 2hp 3 phase motors to use for the spindles. Of course if I came >> across a 3hp for the lathe some day it might get upgraded.

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 February 2017 at 02:35, dragon wrote: > Are there any drawbacks to using MODBUS instead of the usual analog 10v > interface? Response might not be quite so smooth during CSS facing cuts with a lathe. I _think_ I can hear the speed changing in finite steps. However the

Re: [Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 02/01/2017 07:35 PM, dragon wrote: > I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I > have two 2hp 3 phase motors to use for the spindles. Of course if I came > across a 3hp for the lathe some day it might get upgraded. > > Are there any drawbacks to using MODBUS instead

[Emc-users] VFD recommendations

2017-02-01 Thread dragon
I want to start looking for VFDs for my lathe and mill conversions. I have two 2hp 3 phase motors to use for the spindles. Of course if I came across a 3hp for the lathe some day it might get upgraded. Are there any drawbacks to using MODBUS instead of the usual analog 10v interface? Does anyone