Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Leslie Newell wrote: >Hi Steve, > >Is there any difference between using FRO and adaptive feed rate? For >proofing code, having the feed proportional shouldn't be a problem. > > Yes. FRO is set from the UI, and AFO is done in HAL in realtime. You need to use AFO if you want to connect it to

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Steve, Is there any difference between using FRO and adaptive feed rate? For proofing code, having the feed proportional shouldn't be a problem. Les > > The connection you suggest would only work as expected when you spin the > encoder forward. If you spin backwards, the feedrate will be

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Steve, >> > The only thing left out of this is machine state. This could be done > with checkpointing of some sort This wouldn't be much of an issue would it? Each movement segment can contain plenty of status flags, the code line number etc. File size isn't really much of an issue these d

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Leslie Newell wrote: >That was pretty much what I intended to do. The spinning backwards >problem is easily fixed by clamping the value so it can only be >positive. If there isn't a HAL module already available to do that, it >would be trivial to write one. > >BTW, does anyone know what happens

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >you are correct but this is not what I had in mind when I asked the first >question >I was responding to Leslie's post > > Understood. The connection you suggest would only work as expected when you spin the encoder forward. If you spin backwards, the feedrate will be

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >you are correct but this is not what I had in mind when I asked the first >question >I was responding to Leslie's post > > Understood. The connection you suggest would only work as expected when you spin the encoder forward. If you spin backwards, the feedrate will be

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Leslie Newell
That was pretty much what I intended to do. The spinning backwards problem is easily fixed by clamping the value so it can only be positive. If there isn't a HAL module already available to do that, it would be trivial to write one. BTW, does anyone know what happens at the moment if you specif

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
you are correct but this is not what I had in mind when I asked the first question I was responding to Leslie's post On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > >You should be able to connect the MPG to a software encoder and then > connect > >the ve

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Leslie Newell wrote: >I think a bidirectional jog would be a nice feature. I am thinking of >doing a crude version of this on my lathe. In jog wheel mode the FRO >would be tied into the velocity output of an MPG. The faster you turn >the handle, the faster the code is executed. Stop turning and

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >You should be able to connect the MPG to a software encoder and then connect >the velocity output from the software encoder the the feedrate. > > Unless you spin the encoder backwards ... - Steve

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
You should be able to connect the MPG to a software encoder and then connect the velocity output from the software encoder the the feedrate. Stuart On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Leslie Newell wrote: > I think a bidirectional jog would be a nice feature. I am thinking of > doing a crude version

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Leslie Newell
I think a bidirectional jog would be a nice feature. I am thinking of doing a crude version of this on my lathe. In jog wheel mode the FRO would be tied into the velocity output of an MPG. The faster you turn the handle, the faster the code is executed. Stop turning and the machine stops. Great

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Steve, Now that we have a volunteer what can I do to help you? :) thank you very much, Stuart On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 04:40:48PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > > > Oh. > > > > That sounds a lot easier :) > > > And that sounds like

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 04:40:48PM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > Oh. > > That sounds a lot easier :) And that sounds like a volunteer! (I think it does sound easier than it is) -- Crystal Reports - New Free Ru

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
John Kasunich wrote: >Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > >>Decide how to make the TP capable of going forward and backward along >>the path. (or decide that's not the way to do it) >> >> >I'm about 99% sure this is not at all what Stuart was asking about. > >He is not talking about wheeling t

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread John Kasunich
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> > Decide how to make the TP capable of going forward and backward along > the path. (or decide that's not the way to do it) > > I'm about 99% sure this is not at all what Stuart was asking about. He is not talking about wheeling thru a program. He is talking ab

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Oh my we need to get started :) >I will try to help as much as possible. What do we need to do as the 'first' >step of planning? >thanks >Stuart > > Decide how to make the TP capable of going forward and backward along the path. (or decide that's not the way to do it)

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Caroline
step one email the list...oh you did that already :) certainly now I have 5 axis Im thinking of jogging difficulties Dave Caroline -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licens

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Oh my we need to get started :) I will try to help as much as possible. What do we need to do as the 'first' step of planning? thanks Stuart On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Alex Joni wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > Where are we on being able to use the jog wheel for coordinate axis > > motion inste

Re: [Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Alex Joni
> Gentlemen, > Where are we on being able to use the jog wheel for coordinate axis > motion instead of joint motion? Just before the planning phase ;) Regards, Alex -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Tr

[Emc-users] using jog wheel for coordinate motion

2009-06-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Where are we on being able to use the jog wheel for coordinate axis motion instead of joint motion? thanks Stuart -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Crystal Reports - New