Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-26 Thread Mark Tucker
for the drive as long as the correct DIR polarity is stable before the next STEP pulse comes in. Jeff Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:59 -0800 From: p...@mesanet.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-26 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John Thank you so much for the insight of how that work and it explains a lot. But as you stated it would be hunting back and forth.Which i assume it would have to pulse the step line? And a number of people have scoped the outputs

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-24 Thread Jeff
the next STEP pulse comes in.  Jeff   Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:30:59 -0800 From: p...@mesanet.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone On Sat, 22 Feb 2014, Mark Tucker wrote: Date: Sat, 22

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-23 Thread jrmitchellj .
Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John Thank you so much for the insight of how

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-23 Thread Mark Tucker
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John Thank you so much for the insight of how that work and it explains a lot. But as you stated it would be hunting back and forth.Which i assume it would have to pulse the step line? And a number of people have scoped the outputs

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
Peter The crackling is random and mainly after jog moves. The motors are Nema34 and running at 72v and approc 4amps. On 21/02/14 22:25, peter smith wrote: Mark What type of motors and voltage are you using, is the crackling random, or specifically after a certain type of move?? Regards

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
You can hear it on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMA6B4n1bGA On 22/02/14 09:52, Mark Tucker wrote: Peter The crackling is random and mainly after jog moves. The motors are Nema34 and running at 72v and approc 4amps. On 21/02/14 22:25, peter smith wrote: Mark What type of

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Steve Stallings
] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:52 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone Peter The crackling is random and mainly after jog moves. The motors are Nema34 and running at 72v and approc 4amps. On 21/02/14 22:25, peter smith

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
and it sounds like an old fashioned Geiger counter ticking to me. Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Mark Tucker [mailto:m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:52 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
Message- From: Mark Tucker [mailto:m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 4:52 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone Peter The crackling is random and mainly after jog moves. The motors are Nema34

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread John Prentice (FS)
this was OK. Best wishes John Prentice -Original Message- From: Stephen Dubovsky [mailto:smdubov...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2014 16:33 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone Are steps also being generated (back and forth) or is just

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
-Original Message- From: Stephen Dubovsky [mailto:smdubov...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2014 16:33 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone Are steps also being generated (back and forth) or is just the direction line

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread John Kasunich
to reduced current mode but with the ones I was using this was OK. Best wishes John Prentice -Original Message- From: Stephen Dubovsky [mailto:smdubov...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2014 16:33 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread John Prentice (FS)
this. Best wishes John Prentice -Original Message- From: Mark Tucker [mailto:m...@rmtucker.f2s.com] Sent: 22 February 2014 18:08 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John I don't suppose you are using Gecko's? As Jeff mentioned

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
-Original Message- From: Stephen Dubovsky [mailto:smdubov...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2014 16:33 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone Are steps also being generated (back and forth) or is just the direction line toggling (w

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Peter C. Wallace
] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John Thank you so much for the insight of how that work and it explains a lot. But as you stated it would be hunting back and forth.Which i assume it would have to pulse the step line? And a number of people have scoped the outputs and only found the Dir

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014, at 02:20 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: John Thank you so much for the insight of how that work and it explains a lot. But as you stated it would be hunting back and forth.Which i assume it would have to pulse the step line? Lets take my example of a 100uS base thread and

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Mark Tucker
wrote: Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:20:57 + From: Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 February 2014 14:59:52 John Kasunich did opine: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014, at 02:20 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: John Thank you so much for the insight of how that work and it explains a lot. But as you stated it would be hunting back and forth.Which i assume it would have to

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014, Mark Tucker wrote: Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:57:26 + From: Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-22 Thread Dave Cole
: Mark Tucker m...@rmtucker.f2s.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone John Thank you so much for the insight of how

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread Mark Tucker
So it seems that the hal configuration has to be altered and the ini,just reading the sample pico configs. All i need now is someone to integrate this into the beaglebone/xylotex db25 configs. How is the deadband figure worked out,Trial and error? On 21/02/14 05:47, Jon Elson wrote: On

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/20/2014 11:47 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/20/2014 12:01 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Peter's solution will work. I was going to add a dead-band to the PID control internal to the HAL component that talks to the PRU, but Peter's suggestion of pushing the PID outside the PRU driver and

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/21/2014 05:41 AM, Mark Tucker wrote: So it seems that the hal configuration has to be altered and the ini,just reading the sample pico configs. All i need now is someone to integrate this into the beaglebone/xylotex db25 configs. How is the deadband figure worked out,Trial and error?

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread peter smith
Mark What type of motors and voltage are you using, is the crackling random, or specifically after a certain type of move?? Regards Peter Smith On 21/02/14 16:55, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/21/2014 05:41 AM, Mark Tucker wrote: So it seems that the hal configuration has to be altered and the

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-21 Thread peter smith
Mark What type of motors and voltage are you using, is the crackling random, or specifically after a certain type of move?? Regards Peter Smith On 21/02/14 16:55, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/21/2014 05:41 AM, Mark Tucker wrote: So it seems that the hal configuration has to be altered and the

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 2/20/2014 10:21 AM, Mark Tucker wrote: Ok i am not well enough conversed to explain this in detail,but i will try. Having recently been involved with the beaglebone/machinekit setup,i accidently came across a problem. I found that speradically the motors would make a noise like frying an

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Josiah Morgan
Mark, when this happens, have you tried unplugging the step and dir(everything but enable) from the beaglebone to verify that it isn't just coming from microstepping on the driver itself? I know I've experienced similar crackling sounds on some stepper drivers that was completely isolated from

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Tucker
The drivers have been working on mach3 for the last 5years with no problem,and also work no problem with linuxcnc on a pc. I believe jeff pollard has scoped the output on the dir line and it is clearly visible. On 20/02/14 16:43, Josiah Morgan wrote: Mark, when this happens, have you tried

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Jeff
suggestion of a different HAL configuration will work. Jeff Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:53:07 + From: m...@rmtucker.f2s.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone The drivers have been working

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:53:07 + From: m...@rmtucker.f2s.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone The drivers have been working on mach3 for the last 5years with no problem,and also work no problem with linuxcnc

Re: [Emc-users] Crackling motors using Beaglebone

2014-02-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/20/2014 12:01 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Peter's solution will work. I was going to add a dead-band to the PID control internal to the HAL component that talks to the PRU, but Peter's suggestion of pushing the PID outside the PRU driver and into HAL makes a lot more sense. I might