Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
I have a Tormach and have been running Pathpilot for years. It "talks" to several Mesa cards -- 7i92, 5i25 and 7i25(?). If no supported interface card is found it stops with an error message. -Original Message- From: Chris Albertson Sent: January 23, 2023 11:10 PM To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
Several have opined that Pathpilot is just a pretty face and that is largely correct. It does provide some nice features -- conversational machining including drilling, thread milling, facing; probing; import of .DXF, editing of Gcode, interface to DropBox, etc. I realize that most if not all are

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hi Sam, Yeap, seems like the servo motor limits its acceleration within itself. The problem is the manual doesn't help and the only thing I could find is a smooth factor so I'll tell him to play with that value and see what happens. It seems the drive has more settings available when you tune it

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Sam Sokolik
This is why I don't like smart servo drives.. lol.. You don't know how well the drive is following the path linuxcnc is commanding.. With steppers - at least they stall.. The fact that the servo drive isn't tripping a following error makes me think they are not setup correctly. It should

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
Doesn't Pathpilot have better motion planning for more than 3 axes? Eric Keller Boalsburg, Pennsylania On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:38 AM wrote: > > Several have opined that Pathpilot is just a pretty face and that is largely > correct. It does provide some nice features -- conversational machining

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > > Several have opined that Pathpilot is just a pretty face and that is largely > correct. It does provide some nice features -- conversational machining > including drilling, thread milling, facing; probing; import of .DXF,

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale adoption of > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI. There are around 12 user interfaces. Are you saying that they are _all_ terrible?

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Todd Zuercher
Your problem sounds almost certainly like the maximum velocity and or acceleration is set to something less than the maximum settings you have in Linuxcnc. In setups like this where you have multiple control loops nested within each other, the capability limits of each must be completely

[Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hi guys, hope you are all doing well. My brother is changing some stepper motors to servos from a machine with LCNC 2.4.3 and a mesa 5i20. The servos are D2 model from Hiwin. The problem he's having is that, in rapid movements, after LCNC completes its motion the servo motor keeps running until

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
I ran into a similar problem with my Bergerda drive the first time I used it on the X axis. The servos must be configured in velocity mode (Hiwin Control 2). Not position mode (Hiwin Control 1). (Page 16 of the Hiwin D2 manual). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx-kAqdwceU Here's it working

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
No, I haven't tried nativecam. What does it give me that I don't have as part of Pathpilot? Prettier UI? Cheaper than free? Trochoidal milling of simple shapes? CAM directly from STEP files? Better online tutorials? Do I get what I already have including: zero effort installation (part of the

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Rob, No. I use AlibreCAD and the now old and discontinued AlibreCAM which is the integrated Mecsoft VisualCAM. As for I/O I think you might be missing the point. I've certainly had enough people stress to me the ease of setting up their Centroid system. They are happy with 3 axis and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On 1/24/23 11:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: This is why I don't like smart servo drives.. lol.. You don't know how well the drive is following the path linuxcnc is commanding.. My experience has been the opposite Sam. I have no PID's in the config to run my Sheldon 11x54, I put a 3NM on the Z

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Rob C
have you tried nativecam? easy to add to axis (when you've done it before). centroid acorn is nice, but very expensive and has very few iOS (compared to Mesa hardware and linuxcnc) and only 4x step and direction ports.. your choice. On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 18:42 John Dammeyer, wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On 1/24/23 15:10, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Rob, No. I use AlibreCAD and the now old and discontinued AlibreCAM which is the integrated Mecsoft VisualCAM. As for I/O I think you might be missing the point. I've certainly had enough people stress to me the ease of setting up their Centroid

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Moray Cuthill via Emc-users
> The point is I've had absolutely no luck in convincing anyone to move from MACH3 or any other CNC 'package' to LinuxCNC. Why? I spent a good few days trying LCNC, as I was intrigued and wanted to try out EtherCAT, as I like the idea of a simpler setup (no step/dir wiring/issues, less wiring,

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Jan 2023, at 18:03, Eric Keller wrote: > > Doesn't Pathpilot have better motion planning for more than 3 axes? Yes, it has full 9-axis blending. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale adoption of > > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI. > > There are around 12 user interfaces. Are

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Todd Zuercher
I'd like see the retrofit CNC package on the market (other than Linuxcnc) that can run an 8 head/spindle gang router, with individual Z axis and VFD control for each spindle. I'm sorry but freedom of customization comes at the cost of complexity. If you want the freedom to be able to use/run

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread andrew beck
Interesting discussion here and totally see what people are saying. Just thought I would put a link to my machine shop website up. BeckCNC.co.nz All CNC machines run linuxcnc. And we have 4th axis units running etc. Rigid tapping. Random position toolchanger. Just setting up through spindle

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
I'm puzzled. I didn't have any of those kind of problems setting up my Bergerda AC Servos. Other than screwing up with position mode verses velocity mode. And you're sure the drive is set for velocity mode? All the other parameters can be set from the front panel of the Bergerda drive and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hi guys again and thanks for all the answers :) Well, indeed the problem as Todd suggested is because of the driver limiting acceleration and velocity. I found in the manual that this can be changed and they recommend using a value 10 times higher than what LCNC commands. This is to avoid this

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-24 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Windows software for tuning is pretty standard even on the more expensive integrated servo systems. Teknic Clearpath needs Windows software for configuration and tuning, as does one Chines brand that I’ve used. > On Jan 24, 2023, at 8:50 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > Hi guys again and