Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Lester Caine
John Kasunich wrote: Never assume :) Stopping at the end of the current line or arc is better than the current behaviour. If swarf starts wrapping around the tool 1 inch into a 10 inch long slot, waiting until the end of the move is not going to work. So what do YOU do in that situation

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:24:34 -0500, you wrote: Define commercially ? Fanuc, Siemens even Mach3. Steve Blackmore -- -- ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I've been running emc2 all day today and every job has required a manual tool change. What I do is simply divide up my program and end each section with M00 so it doesn't continue past that point, then I just hit escape, jog, change tools,

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
John Kasunich pravi: I already wrote half a book last night, and I'm not going to do it again today. Suffice it to say that Run from Line is another one of those things that is incredibly hard to do in a correctly in all cases. If a program uses nothing but G0, G1, G2, G3, then it is

Re: [Emc-users] Spirograph Curves

2010-05-18 Thread Andrew
Hi Ian, Thanks for your comments, and the link. Ornamental turning is fascinating. Last year, somebody found a Holtzapffel lathe in a garage, here in Cornwall. I had a chance to see it, when it went to the auction house. I wish I could find one ! Cheers, Andy. On Monday 17 May 2010, Ian W.

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Leslie Newell
I've been running emc2 all day today and every job has required a manual tool change. What I do is simply divide up my program and end each section with M00 so it doesn't continue past that point, then I just hit escape, jog, change tools, touch off, and then use run from here on the first

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Leslie Newell
Les' manual toolchange fix allows that without the risk of the unknowns involved with the run from here command. Steve Blackmore Er, actually it does use run from here. For example if you were to use all incremental code from the tool change onwards it would foul up in a big way. You

Re: [Emc-users] connect with port com

2010-05-18 Thread Binh Hoang
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Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 May 2010 01:01, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'll bet anyone a pint of their favorite beer that for any suggested implementation of run-from-line, I can come up with g-code that breaks it. On the basis that I owe all the devs a fair number of beers already: Pause is hit:

[Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Wendt
Morning Gents, Now that I finally have the machine completed, and up and running, it's time to actually learn how to use the damn thing. To set the scene: It's a two axis machine, X and Z axes. Fairly simple operation. The machine will be cutting tapered bamboo strips, ranging in length from

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 May 2010 11:00, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: It's a two axis machine, X and Z axes.  Fairly simple operation. The machine will be cutting tapered bamboo strips, ranging in length from about 32 to 54, in one pass, using two saws set in a V on the Z axis with the point of the

Re: [Emc-users] Spirograph Curves

2010-05-18 Thread craig
Could you post the information on Spirograph curves again. I think I could use this kind of decoration. Thanks, Craig On 5/17/2010 10:50 AM, Andrew wrote: Hi Kirk, Yes, this is really just for providing surface decoration; screens, room dividers or box lids come to mind. Converting it to

Re: [Emc-users] Spirograph Curves

2010-05-18 Thread Neil Baylis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:48 AM, craig cr...@facework.com wrote: Could you post the information on Spirograph curves again. I think I could use this kind of decoration. Ah,don't be so hard on yourself ;-) Neil --

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Dave
On 5/18/2010 3:26 AM, Steve Blackmore wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I've been running emc2 all day today and every job has required a manual tool change. What I do is simply divide up my program and end each section with M00 so it doesn't continue past

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Dave
On 5/18/2010 6:00 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Morning Gents, Now that I finally have the machine completed, and up and running, it's time to actually learn how to use the damn thing. To set the scene: It's a two axis machine, X and Z axes. Fairly simple operation. The machine will be cutting

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, On the basis that I owe all the devs a fair number of beers already: agreed Pause is hit: Save all modal parameters (spindle speeds, coolants, all variables-I don't think we can allow changes to any variables) Save the motion queue and the fraction of the current move

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 05/18/2010 10:21 AM, Dave wrote: Everyone has their own style. I try and let a cam program do most of the heavy lifting for Gcode generation as it makes fewer mistakes than I do. ;-) Anyway, you are best to not assume much at the beginning on your programs. Set everything the way you want

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:51:53AM -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: I did forget to mention, I upgraded EMC2 on my machine to 2.4. Andy mentioned something about NURBS in one of his posts, and gave me the URL for our wiki page on it: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?NURBS Did this make it

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 05/18/2010 11:05 AM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:51:53AM -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: I did forget to mention, I upgraded EMC2 on my machine to 2.4. Andy mentioned something about NURBS in one of his posts, and gave me the URL for our wiki page on it:

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, 18 May 2010 10:43 +0100, Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk wrote: On 18 May 2010 01:01, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'll bet anyone a pint of their favorite beer that for any suggested implementation of run-from-line, I can come up with g-code that breaks it.

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 May 2010 16:16, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: A quick tweak to truetype-tracer to use the G5.1 quadratic splines gave me correct-looking output and smooth motion: As I mentioned above, I haven't had a chance yet to delve into the docs much as of yet.  Do the new docs talk

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, 18 May 2010 11:46 +0100, Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk wrote: On 18 May 2010 11:00, Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: I guess you might be wanting to curve between the interpolation points, but doing it with G2 and G3 sounds painful. As you are making actual,

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Andy Pugh
On 18 May 2010 16:41, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Are you saving this position in absolute machine coordinates, or in g-code coordinates (corresponding to the number on the DRO, which includes the effects of G54, etc.)? G-code (relative) coordinates. I'm pretty sure it would

Re: [Emc-users] G - Code Noob

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 05/18/2010 12:02 PM, John Kasunich wrote: On 18 May 2010 11:00, Mark Wendtmark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: I guess you might be wanting to curve between the interpolation points, but doing it with G2 and G3 sounds painful. As you are making actual, physical, splines then using the new

[Emc-users] Splines/NURBS in EMC2.4

2010-05-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 04:48:57PM +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: As far as I can see the docs don't mention it at all, anywhere. Any pointers? We don't have much. The student who originally did the implementation wrote this paper: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/Leto_art837759.pdf There is

Re: [Emc-users] Splines/NURBS in EMC2.4

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 05/18/2010 12:15 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 04:48:57PM +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: As far as I can see the docs don't mention it at all, anywhere. Any pointers? We don't have much. The student who originally did the implementation wrote this paper:

Re: [Emc-users] Spirograph Curves

2010-05-18 Thread Andrew
Hi Craig, The code is here: http://www.andyshelley.co.uk/axisfarris/index.php Cheers, Andy. On Tuesday 18 May 2010, craig wrote: Could you post the information on Spirograph curves again. I think I could use this kind of decoration. Thanks, Craig

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Daniel Goller
I merely meant to point out that commercially you can't feed hold in canned cycles would be too generalized, since it works for *some* I wouldn't want an option to start/pause/anything mid cycle on a G76 ;) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk wrote: On 18 May

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 18 May 2010 05:12:48 -0500, you wrote: Just checking, since Fanuc does allow feed hold in canned cycles as well, it's actually where jogging during feedhold is used far more than at any other program part in our shop. During a G71, it's majorly useful to interrupt the move, jog away,

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 17 May 2010 19:45:42 -0400, you wrote: A clear Mission Statement may help with any confusion in the future? You still seem to think that EMC2 is a business, complete with a top-down heirarchy, where bosses write Mission Statements and tell the peons what to do. John - Read your own

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool change

2010-05-18 Thread Ted Hyde
The Matrix control on my Mazak (circa 2005/6) has a manual interruption mode and a TPS mode - both need to wait for an end-of-sequence and don't work in canned cycles. Most interestingly, it doesn't work with G-Code, just Mazatrol, on my unit. I would expect the reason for this is again in the

[Emc-users] [OT] Yes we can make demands, but...

2010-05-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: I keep hoping the jog-under-pause furor will die down but, like my old car, it keeps dieseling after it appears to shut down. Over my career and because of its nature, I tried hundreds of open-source products and contributed to or at least helped test dozens. Of these, some

[Emc-users] question about remote control of emc2

2010-05-18 Thread forget color
i'm interested in remote control of emc2 and/or axis. i would like to be able to open a socket or a pipe or some connection method so that i can feed gcode statements from a python program, one (or a few) at a time. i looked at emcrsh, but it appears to expect loading of ngc files, not the

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Yes we can make demands, but...

2010-05-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Very nice to read your comment, and i feel guilty sometimes because i don't have the knowledge or dedication to improve and help more in the EMC2 project, and it's really admirable how the developers take the user's demands to make EMC2 better and better. I think is something to thank, because

Re: [Emc-users] question about remote control of emc2

2010-05-18 Thread Eric H. Johnson
You can send individual G-code commands with the MDI command. Regards, Eric i'm interested in remote control of emc2 and/or axis. i would like to be able to open a socket or a pipe or some connection method so that i can feed gcode statements from a python program, one (or a few) at a time.

Re: [Emc-users] Jog under PAUSE / tool cnange

2010-05-18 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: On a Mazak I ran years ago there was a button I think was TPS (Tool Point Save). This allowed you to stop in a cut, push the button, move the machine, push the button, move the machine, push the button. The Allen-Bradley 7320 (1978-vintage control based on 16-bit