Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On 03.05.15 20:51, Gene Heskett wrote: So, ok, I'll byte. What is the magic keyboard incantation that will allow the grub boot menu to be seen? It goes sailing right on by it. It's a while since I stuffed around with grub, but info grub says that it will boot immediately without displaying the menu, if GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to zero. Anything like that in your /etc/default/grub? I also have a note from a prior encounter, saying: SHIFT is a suitable boot interrupt, causing the menu to be displayed, even if GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 Info seems to concur that it can also be responsible for booting like a sneak attack. Both GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT should be sought in the editable config /etc/default/grub, not /boot/grub/grub.cfg, generated by update-grub. Erik -- Telephone books are like dictionaries -- if you know the answer before you look it up, you can eventually reaffirm what you thought you knew but weren't sure. But if you're searching for something you don't already know, your fingers could walk themselves to death. - Erma Bombeck -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 8 Rotary Table Index Chart
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:43 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote: The FIRST place I looked. Since the item does not have the standard 40:1 ratio, the chart in my 22nd Edition did not have what I was looking for. I did a very nice two pager in Word, have to find out how to upload it correctly. Sorry about the delay. Folks. Please trim your replies. This originally was a digest email the OP originally replied to, and it's left a comet trail a coupla galaxies long. Folks that get the digest will now have the entire previous digest at least three or four times in the next one. Mark -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: This is due to mixed joints/axes. IIRC axis_N values in INI file actually represent type, velocity, acceleration and limits for world axes, but resolution and homing behavior for joints. Any ideas on how I should tackle this problem - keeping in mind that exceeding the inidividual axis' speed/acceleration is sensitive for the proper operation of the robot. Try using joints_axes branch http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JointAxesBranch Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7/G8 is driving me up a wall.
On 4 May 2015 at 02:16, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Someone on irc said touchoff gives a choice when you have entered the first number. Not on 2.6.7, the only thing it says is radius, so I have to keep a pocket calc, to do a / 2. on the size the caliper reads In which GUI? On my lathe (which is running Wheezy so is presumably a 2.6.x) and the Axis GUI the touch-off dialog box assumes you are entering a diameter in diameter mode as far as I can tell. I haven't looked at the numbers that end up in the tool table, but I measure the diameter, type in that number, and it all works as expected. Occasionally I get a surprise if something has left the machine not in diameter mode, but than is normally nothing more inconvenient than seeing the wrong number in the DRO take the new number. And even then, you don't need a calculator, you can type expressions in the dialog box. I reasonably often type things like 15.234 + 6 if I am touching off length with a dowel for a boring tool. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Monday 04 May 2015 05:04:04 Erik Christiansen wrote: On 03.05.15 20:51, Gene Heskett wrote: So, ok, I'll byte. What is the magic keyboard incantation that will allow the grub boot menu to be seen? It goes sailing right on by it. It's a while since I stuffed around with grub, but info grub says that it will boot immediately without displaying the menu, if GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to zero. Anything like that in your /etc/default/grub? I also have a note from a prior encounter, saying: SHIFT is a suitable boot interrupt, causing the menu to be displayed, even if GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 Info seems to concur that it can also be responsible for booting like a sneak attack. Both GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT should be sought in the editable config /etc/default/grub, not /boot/grub/grub.cfg, generated by update-grub. There was GRUB_TIMEOUT = 0, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10, and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in that file. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 now, and the last line I'll consult the grub man pages on. Except exactly none of this stuff is mentioned in any man page for the various grub utilities. The man pages are so incomplete that they don't even include see also lines referencing the other grub related bits pieces. Dammit, this isn't Microsoft, write the man pages already people. I even went so far as to cd /usr/share/man/man1 zcat * |grep HIDDEN cd .../man8 zcat * |grep HIDDEN And got exactly zero results. How the hell are any of us supposed to figure this out? Thanks Erik Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: There was GRUB_TIMEOUT = 0, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10, and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in that file. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 now, and the last line I'll consult the grub man pages on. Except exactly none of this stuff is mentioned in any man page for the various grub utilities. The man pages are so incomplete that they don't even include see also lines referencing the other grub related bits pieces. Dammit, this isn't Microsoft, write the man pages already people. I even went so far as to cd /usr/share/man/man1 zcat * |grep HIDDEN cd .../man8 zcat * |grep HIDDEN And got exactly zero results. How the hell are any of us supposed to figure this out? Thanks Erik Cheers, Gene Heskett Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough description of the parameters in the file. Mark -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] halcmd: run and exit
Hello everybody, I am experimenting with hal and i could not find and information about the halrun and halcmd: exit start and exit script. What it does and how. I would like to load additional .ko modules, which should be loaded and later unloaded at certain load order. Now i am doing it manually so i was wondering if there is a way to automate this? RegardsKlemen -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7/G8 is driving me up a wall.
someone on the irc (me) said that when you start to enter a number it tells you if your in radius or diameter mode. If your in the wrong mode MDI to the mode you want. JT On 5/3/2015 8:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Someone on irc said touchoff gives a choice when you have entered the first number. Not on 2.6.7, the only thing it says is radius, so I have to keep a pocket calc, to do a / 2. on the size the caliper reads for the actual touchoff data entry. IOW, it takes radius inputs only. Putting X in diameter mode changes nothing in re this. It seems to me I ought to be able to enter the diameter if I am running in that mode, or the radius if running in that mode. But touch off, and the dro which does follow the touch off if you enter radius,it almost works. I say almost, but the ending small end diameter is well oversized. The scale factor on this x axis has been tested and verified several times. But starting at 38mm diameter, and ending at 22.mm in diameter, the one cut I did today without it crashing, using a while [#_x_tmp gt #_x_end] (where #_x_end = 22.00mm) ended normlly at about 25.75mm in diameter, with half the expected 3/4 a foot taper. So somethings all aglay. And fighting with a touchoff that demands a radius regardless of the G7/G8 mode set is a prime distraction as it derails any train of analytical thought one might have when looking for the real problem. Frustrating even. Thanks Guys. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7/G8 is driving me up a wall.
On Monday 04 May 2015 07:45:27 andy pugh wrote: On 4 May 2015 at 02:16, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Someone on irc said touchoff gives a choice when you have entered the first number. Not on 2.6.7, the only thing it says is radius, so I have to keep a pocket calc, to do a / 2. on the size the caliper reads In which GUI? The touchoff popup On my lathe (which is running Wheezy so is presumably a 2.6.x) and the Axis GUI the touch-off dialog box assumes you are entering a diameter in diameter mode as far as I can tell. I am still on the ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS based older install on both of those machines driving machinery. Running LCNC-2.6.7. The info the popup shows is called radius, and is exactly what you type in. The new hybrid-iso has a duff kernel that goes totally berzerk on this machine because it has 8G of ram, but it see's only 3G's of it, and is 1gigabyte into swap in 4 hours. Seb made a pass at building a PAE enabled 32 bit kernel, but the PAE didn't work. I did try to install and run that 32 bit install for about 3 days, but so many things on this do it all machine didn't work, plus I had some outright freeze the machine crashes, that I installed wheezy from a debian built iso. I have since asked if a newer one that worked has ever been built for the wheezy installs, but did not get a reply. Those 2 atom machines only have 1G of ram, so they might work ok with the same kernel that breaks lots of stuff on this box. Since it takes a couple hours worth of screwing around to get networking up and running after the install, (the installer assumes dhcpd is running someplace in the 192.168.0 address space and here it is not, and I don't even run in the 192.168.0.xx space), and simply does not have the tools to setup a hosts based network before the install while booted from the iso. After the install, then apt-get purge networkmanager stops that BS code from tearing you down when you try to edit interfaces other network related files and you can then configure a working network with nano in perhaps 10 minutes. This, my main house machine, has 8G of ram and a quad core phenom, and is running a 64 bit wheezy install. The best kernel for video when cruising the news sites is 3.2.0-4amd64, and the simulator runs just fine on it. There are 7 more kernels available, including a 3.14.something, but the x included with wheezy is too old and the neauvou drivers vs x versions are so far off the news videos are useless. Stalled video for 20 seconds, then play at 20,000 fps to catch up, audio in 1/4 second bursts with 1/4 second gaps is very annoying. 3.2.0-4amd64 Just Works. Here on this machine. I haven't looked at the numbers that end up in the tool table, but I measure the diameter, type in that number, and it all works as expected. Occasionally I get a surprise if something has left the machine not in diameter mode, but than is normally nothing more inconvenient than seeing the wrong number in the DRO take the new number. And even then, you don't need a calculator, you can type expressions in the dialog box. I reasonably often type things like 15.234 + 6 if I am touching off length with a dowel for a boring tool. I should remember that I think. Thanks Andy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:17:52 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: There was GRUB_TIMEOUT = 0, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10, and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in that file. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 now, and the last line I'll consult the grub man pages on. Except exactly none of this stuff is mentioned in any man page for the various grub utilities. The man pages are so incomplete that they don't even include see also lines referencing the other grub related bits pieces. Dammit, this isn't Microsoft, write the man pages already people. I even went so far as to cd /usr/share/man/man1 zcat * |grep HIDDEN cd .../man8 zcat * |grep HIDDEN And got exactly zero results. How the hell are any of us supposed to figure this out? Thanks Erik Cheers, Gene Heskett Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough description of the parameters in the file. Mark Not for a 10.04-4 LTS install: gene@lathe:~$ info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. gene@lathe:~$ sudo info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' [sudo] password for gene: info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. It does work on this wheezy install though. Based on the wheezy versions output, I commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true out and reran update-grub. Now its time to go see if I can get it to run memtest. Thanks Mark. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough description of the parameters in the file. Mark Not for a 10.04-4 LTS install: gene@lathe:~$ info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. gene@lathe:~$ sudo info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' [sudo] password for gene: info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. It does work on this wheezy install though. Based on the wheezy versions output, I commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true out and reran update-grub. Now its time to go see if I can get it to run memtest. Thanks Mark. Cheers, Gene Heskett Ah. Sorry about that. My machine here at work is running 14.04 LTS. Mark -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7/G8 is driving me up a wall.
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:36:42 John Thornton wrote: someone on the irc (me) said that when you start to enter a number it tells you if your in radius or diameter mode. If your in the wrong mode MDI to the mode you want. I will double check that John, thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. -- Andrew -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:57:39 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Gene, At the top of the /etc/default/grub file, in the comments area, I found this: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' Gave me a pretty thorough description of the parameters in the file. Mark Not for a 10.04-4 LTS install: gene@lathe:~$ info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. gene@lathe:~$ sudo info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' [sudo] password for gene: info: Cannot find node `Simple configuration'. It does work on this wheezy install though. Based on the wheezy versions output, I commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true out and reran update-grub. Now its time to go see if I can get it to run memtest. Thanks Mark. Cheers, Gene Heskett Ah. Sorry about that. My machine here at work is running 14.04 LTS. Mark I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 and sudo update-grub. I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. My screen steadfastly remains blank during what I think is the 10 second timeout, followed by the kernel decompression and first few lines of its booting messages. I have a copy of lubuntu 14.04-2 LTS on a dvd in front of me that I will take out and try. BRB. And it boots straight into the install screen, asking for the language. Now, while its asking for the language, there is a countdown clock of 30 seconds running on the left edge of the screen and a list of keys to press to get the various options along the botton. Touching any of those keys kills the countdown and freezes the installer, apparently forever. If I don't already have a memtest on a cd, I'll make one and try that, but this is frustrating to say the least. Didn't find a memtest disk, so I took every install cd/dvd I had out, a stack about 1/2 thick, and the 3rd one I tried, a recent manjaro 64 bit installer, finally have me a grub selection screen, from which I was able to select and run memtest from, so its running now. I'll ignore that recalcitrant SOB till about noon now. If I knew where I could buy another box, or a new mb for that one, that would run LCNC like these Intel D525MW boards do, I'd drop the card in a heartbeat or less. I checked the wiki for some recent advice yesterday, and only that board tests as well for latency. OTOH, I got the impression that page had not had any TLC for a couple years. This is exactly the same stuff you find on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 and sudo update-grub. I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. My screen steadfastly remains blank during what I think is the 10 second timeout, followed by the kernel decompression and first few lines of its booting messages. I have a copy of lubuntu 14.04-2 LTS on a dvd in front of me that I will take out and try. BRB. And it boots straight into the install screen, asking for the language. Now, while its asking for the language, there is a countdown clock of 30 seconds running on the left edge of the screen and a list of keys to press to get the various options along the botton. Touching any of those keys kills the countdown and freezes the installer, apparently forever. If I don't already have a memtest on a cd, I'll make one and try that, but this is frustrating to say the least. Didn't find a memtest disk, so I took every install cd/dvd I had out, a stack about 1/2 thick, and the 3rd one I tried, a recent manjaro 64 bit installer, finally have me a grub selection screen, from which I was able to select and run memtest from, so its running now. I'll ignore that recalcitrant SOB till about noon now. If I knew where I could buy another box, or a new mb for that one, that would run LCNC like these Intel D525MW boards do, I'd drop the card in a heartbeat or less. I checked the wiki for some recent advice yesterday, and only that board tests as well for latency. OTOH, I got the impression that page had not had any TLC for a couple years. This is exactly the same stuff you find on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett Maybe hitting the escape key during that blank 10 second time period? Mark -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On 4 May 2015 at 15:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. I just restarted my Live-CD installed 10.04 VM with the _left_ shift key held down and it went straight into the Grub menu. It is possible that your keyboard is USB and not recognised early enough in the boot sequence, but it is probably worth trying again. This was a normal restart from the GUI, booting from the normal installed OS, not messing about with Grub configuration, CD-booting or anything along those lines. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Monday 04 May 2015 10:22:15 Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I did make those changes to /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2 /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 and sudo update-grub. I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. My screen steadfastly remains blank during what I think is the 10 second timeout, followed by the kernel decompression and first few lines of its booting messages. I have a copy of lubuntu 14.04-2 LTS on a dvd in front of me that I will take out and try. BRB. And it boots straight into the install screen, asking for the language. Now, while its asking for the language, there is a countdown clock of 30 seconds running on the left edge of the screen and a list of keys to press to get the various options along the botton. Touching any of those keys kills the countdown and freezes the installer, apparently forever. If I don't already have a memtest on a cd, I'll make one and try that, but this is frustrating to say the least. Didn't find a memtest disk, so I took every install cd/dvd I had out, a stack about 1/2 thick, and the 3rd one I tried, a recent manjaro 64 bit installer, finally have me a grub selection screen, from which I was able to select and run memtest from, so its running now. I'll ignore that recalcitrant SOB till about noon now. If I knew where I could buy another box, or a new mb for that one, that would run LCNC like these Intel D525MW boards do, I'd drop the card in a heartbeat or less. I checked the wiki for some recent advice yesterday, and only that board tests as well for latency. OTOH, I got the impression that page had not had any TLC for a couple years. This is exactly the same stuff you find on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett Maybe hitting the escape key during that blank 10 second time period? Mark I won't say the keycap is showing signs of wear. It does do something, but giving me a grub boot select screen isn't done. I do see a blinking underline curser at top left though. Its like the video driver is not loaded at that point. ??? Humm, that is an intel 915 gfx setup. Does anyone else have an insmod line to load its driver? The manjaro cd that worked, has a fawncy gfx screen, not text. Thanks Mark. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
On Monday 04 May 2015 10:24:28 andy pugh wrote: On 4 May 2015 at 15:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. I just restarted my Live-CD installed 10.04 VM with the _left_ shift key held down and it went straight into the Grub menu. It is possible that your keyboard is USB and not recognised early enough in the boot sequence, but it is probably worth trying again. This was a normal restart from the GUI, booting from the normal installed OS, not messing about with Grub configuration, CD-booting or anything along those lines. Left shift? Untested but will be. With only a gig of dram, memtest+ v5.01 is on about the 7th full pass by now. No errors when the 6th pass was in progress. But I'll let it run another couple hours just for SG. I'd like to make swarf sometime. Without the C1G lighting up like the 4th of July when the 5i25's unpetted watchdog bites. Thanks Andy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. I will try setting it up some time soon ;-) Some pictures https://excogitation.de/exccloud/public.php?service=filest=RbW4iciiBKIRV2M of the first actual milling task (still with genserkins/master). -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] problem setting appropriate speeds in joint and world mode for 6 axis robot with genserkins
Well done Christian ! ;-) Alex On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-04 13:40 GMT+03:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : Which one of the joints axis branches in the linuxcnc git would that be? (joints_axes7?) Or even one from a different repository? Also - is there a sample config (adapted Puma config?) for a 6 axis robot for joints_axes? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I've heard that joints_axes7 works pretty well. But haven't tried it myself yet. IIRC there's a script in JA that will suggest to convert your existing config to JA format when loading. I will try setting it up some time soon ;-) Some pictures https://excogitation.de/exccloud/public.php?service=filest=RbW4iciiBKIRV2M of the first actual milling task (still with genserkins/master). -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
On Mon, 4 May 2015, Tom Easterday wrote: Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 20:07:47 -0400 From: Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall The manual for the UDX5128NA step parameter is shown below (inline jpeg). That doesn??t work does it? :-) The UDX5128NA manual is here: http://bgp.nu/~tom/pub/UDX5128NA-UM.pdf http://bgp.nu/~tom/pub/UDX5128NA-UM.pdf -Tom Just to make sure its not a current drive issue, can you try connecting the step and dir signals to the 7I85S such that the 7I85S sinks current to drive the OPTO? The current batch of 7I85S's sink current better than source so you would connect the OPTO + to 5V and OPTO- to 7I85S output to get maximum drive -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] problem in learning Glade3 Gtk Python Tutorial
Hi all，
I‘m learning Glade3 Gtk Python Tutorial which was constributed by John
Thornton(thanks for JT very much).
http://gnipsel.com/glade/index.html
At tutorial 3 an error occurred,
when i typed the command python3.4 glade1.py in shell terminal,the result was
GTK not available.
I don't know how to solve this problem.I need some help.
the following are some of my system information:
1.Ubuntu 10.04 Linuxcnc OS
2.Python3.4.3
3.Glade3 (GTK+ 2)
4.
5.the glade1.py
#!/usr/bin/env python
try:
import pygtk
pygtk.require('2.0')
except:
pass
try:
import gtk
import gtkglade
except:
print('GTK not available')
sys.exit(1)
class Buglump:
def on_window1_destroy(self, object, data=None):
print quit with cancel
gtk.main_quit()
def on_gtk_quit_activate(self, menuitem, data=None):
print quit from menu
gtk.main_quit()
def on_gtk_about_activate(self,object,data=None):
print help about selected
self.response=self.aboutdialog.run()
self.aboutdialog.hide()
def on_push_status_activate(self,menuitem,data=None):
self.status_count+=1
self.status(self.context_id,Messagenumber %s % str(self.status_count))
def on_pop_status_activate(self,menuitem,data=None):
self.status_count-=1
self.statusbar.pop(self.context_id)
def on_clear_status_activate(self,menuitem,data=None):
while (status_count0):
self.statusbar.pop(self.context_id)
self.status_count-=1
def __init__(self):
self.gladefile = tutorial-1.glade
self.builder = gtk.Builder()
self.builder.add_from_file(self.gladefile)
self.builder.connect_signals(self)
self.window = self.builder.get_object(window1)
self.aboutdialog=self.builder.get_object(aboutdialog1)
self.context_id=self.statusbar.get_context_id(status)
self.status_count=0
self.window.show()
if __name__ == __main__:
main = Buglump()
gtk.main()
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Re: [Emc-users] Crashing atom box
Just a suggestion ,you might try running lcnc but power down your drives. I had similar problem ,it turned out to be rfi coming in on the limit switch wires. On 15-05-04 08:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 04 May 2015 16:20:46 Przemek Klosowski wrote: Can you boot it into memtest and leave running overnight? memtest stresses out CPU and memory systems so maybe that would show something. I got it to run from a recent manjaro install cd left it for 2 full passes. no problems. Ejecting that cd and rebooting I did get a grub screen 3 times, but each time I selected memtest, it reported not enough memory to run it. ??? And then I did a power down reboot haven't seen a grub screen since. The keyboard and mouse are both wireless usb, but if it works in the bios, it seems to make sense that it should work for boot options too. It has locked up 5 times today, everytime while running LCNC. Never when I was editing code with geany unless LCNC was running and waiting on my latest edits. [...] I thought perhaps I had found it when I attempted to remove what looked like a hair about 3 long, wedged between the motherboard and the PS-2 connectors, but which on closer examination, was actually a steel shaving about the size of a hair but flattened, I assume from the punch presses work on stamping out the chassis. But removing it made no diff, so when it crashed while I was editing a program to carve the outside of the taperlock bushing, I said screw it, called Directron in Texas where I had purchased it, but they were unable to identify it. I did find a supply that looked like it would fit, so I popped over to amazon its on the way for 26 bucks. If that doesn't fix it, what is the next best mobo to put in this mini-atx P4 shoebox? This one was one of the D-525MW boards. [...] But I am about done for the day, after giving up on getting it to cut the hub off the raw stock, I started ripping up the flooring of the deck on the front of my shop, which after a decade under the trash from a neighbors tree that kept it wet for days after a rain, and I put a foot thru it last week. Getting dangerous so I have about 2/3rds of what it will take to replace it with treated 2x6 lumber. All Lowes had that was fit to throw in my pickup, I have to go back and get about 8 more 8 footers to do it all. And I have to do it, it sure isn't going to change itself. I even stood in the middle of it and asked for volunteers. Crickets... The sub framing doesn't look so hot either, but it will hold up some more 2x6's till after I fall over. I hope. Biggest problem ATM is the ultra cheap hacksaw blades that came with a Dewalt Sawzall. I have about 150 deck screws around the edges that are holding the balister sticks, which need about the inner end 7/8 removed, and with these blades each one seems to be good for 3, maybe 4 screws cut off. So I gotta find some better blades. Lots better if I can find them. A web search just showed more of these. :( At the cost of the blades, that is about a dollar a screw cut off. Ouch! Some days its just not worth gnawing thru the straps to get up in the morning. :( Thanks Przemek. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
Thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow. I did see in the Vexta manual that it be connected as you suggest so I am hoping this is my problem and not a bad motor or drive as Jon alluded to (Thanks as well, Jon). -Tom On May 4, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Just to make sure its not a current drive issue, can you try connecting the step and dir signals to the 7I85S such that the 7I85S sinks current to drive the OPTO? The current batch of 7I85S's sink current better than source so you would connect the OPTO + to 5V and OPTO- to 7I85S output to get maximum drive -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Crashing atom box
On Monday 04 May 2015 22:30:44 jim wrote: Just a suggestion ,you might try running lcnc but power down your drives. I had similar problem ,it turned out to be rfi coming in on the limit switch wires. Difficult to do as the drive power, and the breakout board power is all on the same power switch, and in one box. But I have a scope laying there handy so I'll certainly take a look at the limit wiring with it tomorrow. IIRC the grounding is to the star ground in the box. However, it is not shielded cable, but that crappy miniature zip cord the shack sells for small speaker runs. 22 or 24 gauge. Using a C1G breakout board, which has leds on everything, I'd think the home switch led would flicker if the noise was that bad. I haven't really stood and stared at it though. The switches are configured N.O. so the circuit is pulled high. A small capacitor to gobble up some of the noise might be in order. But I'll look at the noise. Another item. These drivers current reduce to about half when just sitting there. And its as likely to lockup then as when its actually running a program the driver is up to full current. Thanks Jim, I'll report what I find tomorrow. [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
While mentioning the top speed no one is mentioning the acceleration rate, try slowing that down. Also increase supply voltage to the motor/drive as this also gives a faster more powerful response from the motor drive combination. Dave Caroline On 05/05/2015, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: Thanks, I'll give it a try tomorrow. I did see in the Vexta manual that it be connected as you suggest so I am hoping this is my problem and not a bad motor or drive as Jon alluded to (Thanks as well, Jon). -Tom On May 4, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Just to make sure its not a current drive issue, can you try connecting the step and dir signals to the 7I85S such that the 7I85S sinks current to drive the OPTO? The current batch of 7I85S's sink current better than source so you would connect the OPTO + to 5V and OPTO- to 7I85S output to get maximum drive -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
The manual for the UDX5128NA step parameter is shown below (inline jpeg). That doesn’t work does it? :-) The UDX5128NA manual is here: http://bgp.nu/~tom/pub/UDX5128NA-UM.pdf http://bgp.nu/~tom/pub/UDX5128NA-UM.pdf -Tom -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
What could cause this behavior? https://youtu.be/GWV9Px6lITM https://youtu.be/GWV9Px6lITM (or https://youtu.be/dXcmpG2MLkk https://youtu.be/dXcmpG2MLkk) Some background: This is a Berger Lahr 596 5-phase stepper motor on the Z-axis of an EMCO 120P lathe. It, and it’s X-axis identical mate, are driven by a pair of identically configured Vexta UDX5128NA stepper drivers. Mesa 5i25/7i85s is supplying step/direction, set to step_type=0 and control-type=1. The machine (with these original motors) is spec’d at ~80 in/min rapids (different controls obviously). I am attempting just 60 in/min. I can run the X-axis (up and down) at 60 in/min with no problem. I cannot run the Z-axis motor more than about 39 in/min or it will stall as in the video. I can run it in very short bursts above 39 in/min but only 2-3 seconds before it will stall. At 39 in/min and below it runs beautifully and it seems to have fine holding torque (can’t turn it with my hands anyway). I believe I have Linuxcnc set up correctly, the motor moves the distance that it should so scaling is right, and I have played with the step space/length parameters thinking that maybe I had them set too high to no avail. I have step space and step length set to 5000 each but I have tried 4000 and 6000, neither of which made any difference to either axis. I have setup and hold set to 5000 each (and have tried as high as 1). The manual for the UDX5128NA step parameter is shown below (inline jpeg). The UDX5128NA can supply 2.8A max (motor max is 2.7A) and I have both drives configured for max current output. I am at a loss as to what might be causing this since I have everything set identically on the two axes, x works great, z works great only below 39 in/min. -Tom -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Crashing atom box
Can you boot it into memtest and leave running overnight? memtest stresses out CPU and memory systems so maybe that would show something. On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Well, its crashed 2 more times today, after I took it apart, no convex topped caps anyplace, including the PSU, which is an ATX P4 rated at 300 watts. Hugely more than that box needs in its wildest dreams. 75 watts would spin it all without breaking a sweat. I thought perhaps I had found it when I attempted to remove what looked like a hair about 3 long, wedged between the motherboard and the PS-2 connectors, but which on closer examination, was actually a steel shaving about the size of a hair but flattened, I assume from the punch presses work on stamping out the chassis. But removing it made no diff, so when it crashed while I was editing a program to carve the outside of the taperlock bushing, I said screw it, called Directron in Texas where I had purchased it, but they were unable to identify it. I did find a supply that looked like it would fit, so I popped over to amazon its on the way for 26 bucks. If that doesn't fix it, what is the next best mobo to put in this mini-atx P4 shoebox? This one was one of the D-525MW boards. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta
A bit off topic, but, I noticed you, Gene, retyped the same command after sudo. I'm unsure when it was added, but, you might try sudo !! to rerun a command as root that you previously tried running as a normal user. On May 4, 2015 11:04 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday 04 May 2015 10:24:28 andy pugh wrote: On 4 May 2015 at 15:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have now tried all the tricks to get the grub menu that have been mentioned here, including holding down the right shift key while booting from the original install cd for the ubu 10.04-4 LTS version. I just restarted my Live-CD installed 10.04 VM with the _left_ shift key held down and it went straight into the Grub menu. It is possible that your keyboard is USB and not recognised early enough in the boot sequence, but it is probably worth trying again. This was a normal restart from the GUI, booting from the normal installed OS, not messing about with Grub configuration, CD-booting or anything along those lines. Left shift? Untested but will be. With only a gig of dram, memtest+ v5.01 is on about the 7th full pass by now. No errors when the 6th pass was in progress. But I'll let it run another couple hours just for SG. I'd like to make swarf sometime. Without the C1G lighting up like the 4th of July when the 5i25's unpetted watchdog bites. Thanks Andy. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Crashing atom box
On Monday 04 May 2015 16:20:46 Przemek Klosowski wrote: Can you boot it into memtest and leave running overnight? memtest stresses out CPU and memory systems so maybe that would show something. I got it to run from a recent manjaro install cd left it for 2 full passes. no problems. Ejecting that cd and rebooting I did get a grub screen 3 times, but each time I selected memtest, it reported not enough memory to run it. ??? And then I did a power down reboot haven't seen a grub screen since. The keyboard and mouse are both wireless usb, but if it works in the bios, it seems to make sense that it should work for boot options too. It has locked up 5 times today, everytime while running LCNC. Never when I was editing code with geany unless LCNC was running and waiting on my latest edits. [...] I thought perhaps I had found it when I attempted to remove what looked like a hair about 3 long, wedged between the motherboard and the PS-2 connectors, but which on closer examination, was actually a steel shaving about the size of a hair but flattened, I assume from the punch presses work on stamping out the chassis. But removing it made no diff, so when it crashed while I was editing a program to carve the outside of the taperlock bushing, I said screw it, called Directron in Texas where I had purchased it, but they were unable to identify it. I did find a supply that looked like it would fit, so I popped over to amazon its on the way for 26 bucks. If that doesn't fix it, what is the next best mobo to put in this mini-atx P4 shoebox? This one was one of the D-525MW boards. [...] But I am about done for the day, after giving up on getting it to cut the hub off the raw stock, I started ripping up the flooring of the deck on the front of my shop, which after a decade under the trash from a neighbors tree that kept it wet for days after a rain, and I put a foot thru it last week. Getting dangerous so I have about 2/3rds of what it will take to replace it with treated 2x6 lumber. All Lowes had that was fit to throw in my pickup, I have to go back and get about 8 more 8 footers to do it all. And I have to do it, it sure isn't going to change itself. I even stood in the middle of it and asked for volunteers. Crickets... The sub framing doesn't look so hot either, but it will hold up some more 2x6's till after I fall over. I hope. Biggest problem ATM is the ultra cheap hacksaw blades that came with a Dewalt Sawzall. I have about 150 deck screws around the edges that are holding the balister sticks, which need about the inner end 7/8 removed, and with these blades each one seems to be good for 3, maybe 4 screws cut off. So I gotta find some better blades. Lots better if I can find them. A web search just showed more of these. :( At the cost of the blades, that is about a dollar a screw cut off. Ouch! Some days its just not worth gnawing thru the straps to get up in the morning. :( Thanks Przemek. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] what causes stepper motor stall
On 05/04/2015 06:45 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: What could cause this behavior? https://youtu.be/GWV9Px6lITM https://youtu.be/GWV9Px6lITM (or https://youtu.be/dXcmpG2MLkk https://youtu.be/dXcmpG2MLkk) Some background: This is a Berger Lahr 596 5-phase stepper motor on the Z-axis of an EMCO 120P lathe. It, and it’s X-axis identical mate, are driven by a pair of identically configured Vexta UDX5128NA stepper drivers. Mesa 5i25/7i85s is supplying step/direction, set to step_type=0 and control-type=1. The machine (with these original motors) is spec’d at ~80 in/min rapids (different controls obviously). I am attempting just 60 in/min. Well, the audio sounds like a classic stepper stall. Have you tried swapping the drives? The fact that it ONLY stalls after several seconds of running is rather suspicious. I would think it would be most likely to stall just as it reaches the commanded speed, where the combination of acceleration and speed would put the worst load on the motor. First, take the belt off and see if there is any friction or tight spots in the travel. If nothing is found by swapping drivers and there is no unusual friction, then I'd recommend swapping the motor. Since this system is not working up to the rated performance, SOMETHING must have gone bad. The Mesa controller should be providing smooth trains of step pulses, so the ragged step timing sometimes seen with software stepping is not the cause. Jon -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
