Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread John Thornton
... John On 5/24/2012 11:53 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 10:05 -0500, John Thornton wrote: I've built several rotary phase converters using plans from the web but they all seem to stop at adding a few caps to balance the voltage and the auto start circuit with the potential relay

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread John Thornton
the generated leg. John On 5/24/2012 12:42 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: I've built several rotary phase converters using plans from the web but they all seem to stop at adding a few caps to balance the voltage and the auto start circuit with the potential relay. Have you ever peeked

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread John Thornton
I wonder why they don't publish their prices or show you the open cabinet? John On 5/24/2012 1:11 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the solution to this problem I always see over at Practical Machinist CNC forum. The preferred solution to creating 3 phase power

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-24 Thread John Thornton
Be interesting to find out the prices... John On 5/24/2012 3:08 PM, Dave wrote: On 5/24/2012 2:11 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the solution to this problem I always see over at Practical Machinist CNC forum. The preferred solution to creating 3 phase power

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
/download/f55b9d8378 Nothing inexpensive about them. Dave On 5/24/2012 4:26 PM, John Thornton wrote: Be interesting to find out the prices... John On 5/24/2012 3:08 PM, Dave wrote: On 5/24/2012 2:11 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the solution to this problem I

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
transformer commutating reactor infeed unit (power supply)] On 5/24/2012 8:37 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: This is the third motor I've tried on this beast. The current one is a 15hp 1750 rpm very heavy built with a large multi-belt pulley on the shaft. I've tried cap combinations out

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Jon, Thanks for that lead, a quick search and I found a 6 page instructions for making a 10hp and tuning it up as well. He goes into great detail and makes it simple to try. I see his start circuit is a bit different than mine as he uses a control transformer but I have a large box of phase

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
to compaire at least one line phase to the generated phase. Thanks John On 5/24/2012 9:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:59:35 PM John Thornton did opine: My research shows that a suitable single phase motor to drive a generator does not exist above 7.5 hp and even at that level

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Do you have an example circuit of this that I can drool over? Thanks John On 5/24/2012 11:50 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 24.05.12 20:31, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: I would think an Aurdino like processor could measure the voltage and current on each phase and switch

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
I have 2 10hp and 1 15hp motors and enough parts to make 3 rotary phase converters. Total capital invested is in the $750-$1000 range. That size motor used is cheap around here. As for turning it back into cash that would be more difficult as there is not much demand for phase converters that

Re: [Emc-users] Custom Encoders

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
That's a neat solution... how will you mount the disk? I assume the disk is a mask for a dark background? John On 5/25/2012 7:09 AM, andy pugh wrote: I have built a motor. Internal space is quite tight, so I am using the Avago AEDR8340K encoder detector

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
I sent perfect phase an email with a bunch of questions so we will see what they say. In the mean time I'll try the Fitch tuning method for the rotary phase converter. John On 5/25/2012 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 May 2012 11:42, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the price

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Totally missed the second paragraph... no I've not checked to see if it works on single phase. I'll get the model number in a bit. If you can decipher the Siemens documents my hat is off to you sir as it is really confusing to me. John On 5/25/2012 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 May 2012

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Andy, The infeed unit is a 6SN1145-1BA00-0BA0 If you can shed any light in that tunnel that would great Thanks John On 5/25/2012 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 May 2012 11:42, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the price sheet. That is over double what I can get a diesel

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Ok, what I had been running was 4x60uf caps between 1 and 3 and 1x60uf cap between 2 and 3 (generated leg on 3 then) and that seemed to work the best. at the phase converter to ground 1 = 120v, 2 = 120v, 3 = 226v phase to phase 1 + 2 = 244v, 2 + 3 = 248v, 1 + 3 = 262v at the 380v taps on the

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
John's shop and the 3 phase is hanging on the pole 50' from his shop. Plus they have a minimum monthly charge that would buy a phase perfect rather fast. John On 5/25/2012 8:13 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 09:04:33 AM John Thornton did opine: It's hard to say but I think

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-25 Thread John Thornton
Gene, The scope is a Tektronix 2232 if you can shed any light on how to capture two waves with it I'm all ears. Thanks John On 5/24/2012 9:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:59:35 PM John Thornton did opine: My research shows that a suitable single phase motor to drive

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
Could this be part of the issue? chapter 7 harmonics bouncing back from the caps in the rotary phase converter perhaps? so maybe a filter... real early here so only partially awake John When the requirements regarding system fault level are observed and when using the appropriate line supply

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
That does sound like a cheaper alternative. I used to do that trick with Hatachi drives to power up vibratory feeder bowls that came tuned to 50 herz and would not run in the US on 60 herz. I think I try and tune my 10hp phase converter using the new information I have on tuning a rotary phase

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
The coop never had meter readers, you used to have to read your own meter. Now they are automagic and report back to the mother ship over the wires. John On 5/25/2012 3:24 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 04:16:35 PM John Thornton did opine: It's two miles away up

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
I should be able to get a screen shot of the front panel from the manual when I get back from the big city this afternoon... now I just have to remember that long. John On 5/25/2012 3:34 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, May 25, 2012 04:25:36 PM John Thornton did opine: Gene, The scope

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
When I monitored the DC buss it was rock steady at 600-601v while running. John On 5/25/2012 9:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: However, if the problem is related to the spikes on the line caused by slow recovery characteristics of the diodes in this kits high voltage DC supply,

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
John On 5/25/2012 9:08 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Ok, what I had been running was 4x60uf caps between 1 and 3 and 1x60uf cap between 2 and 3 (generated leg on 3 then) and that seemed to work the best. You may just need to up these capacitors. at the phase converter to ground 1

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
Gene, The scope is a Tektronix 2232 if you can shed any light on how to capture two waves with it I'm all ears. Thanks John On 5/24/2012 9:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 24, 2012 09:59:35 PM John Thornton did opine: My research shows that a suitable single phase motor to drive

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-26 Thread John Thornton
inbalance and tripping out on a phase loss error. The Elk Grove guys might know a way to get around that situation. Dave On 5/26/2012 7:04 AM, John Thornton wrote: Could this be part of the issue? chapter 7 harmonics bouncing back from the caps in the rotary phase converter perhaps? so

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread John Thornton
Gene, The phaseperfect install guide did mention that when you need balanced voltage to ground to use a delta wye transformer after their device. So I have to assume they are out there but so far my google only turns up descriptions of the beast. John On 5/27/2012 4:09 PM, gene heskett

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread John Thornton
I've been searching for isolation transformer but they all seem to be 480 to 240 or similar. Not had any luck so far on finding a 240-240 transformer. John On 5/28/2012 5:00 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, May 28, 2012 05:46:09 AM andy pugh did opine: On 28 May 2012 09:39, gene

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-28 Thread John Thornton
At least I know what an autotransformer is now after following your links... and a little google work. An autotransformer is an electrical transformer with only one winding. The auto prefix refers to the single coil acting on itself rather than any automatic mechanism. In an autotransformer

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
a small line reactor that I plan on hooking up just to scope what it might do. Line reactors are cheap compared to other options... Thanks John On 5/28/2012 12:37 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: I've been searching for isolation transformer but they all seem to be 480 to 240

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
as drive isolation transformers. You have a step up transformer in your machine right now though, prior to your Siemens 611U power input module (fancy DC power supply); How is that wired? Dave On 5/28/2012 8:05 AM, John Thornton wrote: Gene, The phaseperfect install guide did mention

Re: [Emc-users] cutter radius compensation versus tool table data

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
Actually the docs should/will say Cutter Diameter Compensation to avoid that confusion. And yes your correct the radius is calculated from the diameter information to do the actual offsetting. Do you have a link to the example that is confusing? John On 5/29/2012 2:13 AM, charles green wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
I filled out the quote form to see what they say. John On 5/28/2012 11:12 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, May 28, 2012 11:53:29 AM John Thornton did opine: Gene, The phaseperfect install guide did mention that when you need balanced voltage to ground to use a delta wye transformer after

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
29, 2012 07:33:26 AM John Thornton did opine: While laying on the floor to change taps yesterday on the step up transformer I noticed it says INPUT WYE. The transformer has 3 sets of 3 lugs for input 208, 220, 240. The only other wires on the transformer are 3 lugs for 390v to the infeed unit

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
Well I'll be a monkeys uncle, the step up transformer does have a N lug but nothing is connected to it. Voltages at the drive input are UV 525 UW 512 VW 508 Ug 225 Vg 225 Wg 370 John On 5/29/2012 6:44 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 07:33:26 AM John Thornton did opine

Re: [Emc-users] cutter radius compensation versus tool table data

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
Yea, the tool table is diameter as well as all the G codes no matter if your in lathe mode or not. John On 5/29/2012 7:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 29 May 2012 12:30, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the docs should/will say Cutter Diameter Compensation to avoid that confusion.

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
It seems that phase perfect works together with http://www.transformeronline.com/prices/threephasetransformer.htm The have several sizes of 240 delta to 208 Y... how do you pick a size? John On 5/29/2012 7:09 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 07:48:08 AM John Thornton did opine

Re: [Emc-users] cutter radius compensation versus tool table data

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
-users] cutter radius compensation versus tool table data To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 5:03 AM On 29 May 2012 12:30, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the docs should/will say Cutter Diameter Compensation to avoid

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 09:02:11 AM John Thornton did opine: It seems that phase perfect works together with http://www.transformeronline.com/prices/threephasetransformer.htm The have several sizes of 240 delta to 208 Y... how do you pick a size? John Is there a nameplate

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
I assume that I should be able to see some resistance between N and H1, H2, and H3 if it is on the input side? John On 5/29/2012 9:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 29 May 2012 13:16, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'll be a monkeys uncle, the step up transformer does have a N lug but

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
On 5/29/2012 9:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 09:02:11 AM John Thornton did opine: It seems that phase perfect works together with http://www.transformeronline.com/prices/threephasetransformer.htm The have several sizes of 240 delta to 208 Y... how do you pick a size

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
N reads 2.5m ohms to ground and 0 ohms to every other terminal on the board. John On 5/29/2012 9:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 29 May 2012 13:16, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'll be a monkeys uncle, the step up transformer does have a N lug but nothing is connected to it. Do you

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
N to each X is.1 ohm X to X is .2 ohm John On 5/29/2012 9:57 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:39:54 AM John Thornton did opine: This is a shot of the stepup transformer. All the taps are for the input side... I kinda wondered about jacking with the hot leg but didn't try

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
Where should the 208v be? The mains are 244vac. John On 5/29/2012 12:11 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: I have another wild idea, your Vab, Vac, Vbc voltages would appear to be moderately well balanced, as they should be. The generated C, measured to ground, is quite hot as is also

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
When it trips it is so fast you can't see any change on the meter, if only I had an analog meter I could watch the needle swing. John On 5/29/2012 12:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: I spent the day swapping out the 15hp idler in the RPC for my 10hp idler (much quieter by far

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-29 Thread John Thornton
The spindle drive is 6,000 rpm. I've not tried tap hopping yet... any downside to that? John On 5/29/2012 12:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 01:05:21 PM John Thornton did opine: N to each X is.1 ohm X to X is .2 ohm Damn, another good what if shot to hell. I hate

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
or cad? John On 5/29/2012 2:45 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 03:10:01 PM John Thornton did opine: Where should the 208v be? The mains are 244vac. That means your wall socket voltage is about 122. Using the same math in kcalc, I get 211.310198523, but the meter will be great

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 03:46:29 PM John Thornton did opine: The spindle drive is 6,000 rpm. I've not tried tap hopping yet... any downside to that? John I think the trip off will tell you that. So far, IIRC, you've managed to hit half speed, and when you lowered it by choosing

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
The largest motor on the VMC is 20 amps so the name plate says... and I assume that is the spindle servo. John On 5/29/2012 9:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: So, we're probably back to an about 30 KVA isolation transformer. Oh, MY! If he needs a 30 KVA transformer, then he

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
as low as possible on L1. John On 5/29/2012 9:51 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Where should the 208v be? The mains are 244vac. If you measure from the mains neutral (which is NOT the center point of the 3-phase system) to the generated leg, it should be about 208 Volts

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
/29/2012 9:53 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: When it trips it is so fast you can't see any change on the meter, if only I had an analog meter I could watch the needle swing. Right, that's why I was suggesting making the spindle accelerate to just less than what causes it to trip. I

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
in some more caps when the load increases has some merit. John On 5/29/2012 10:24 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:04:48 PM Jon Elson did opine: John Thornton wrote: Where should the 208v be? The mains are 244vac. If you measure from the mains neutral (which is NOT the center

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Neat!, but a different wiz... John On 5/30/2012 6:49 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 30 May 2012 12:26, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered last night that my neighbor is a wiz at running a scope This Wiz? http://www.eeggs.com/items/11778.html

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Hi Dennis, I have a 2.5 diameter facing mill that I use and I don't notice any difference when using that. My machine lights do not dim during acceleration which I assume is a good thing. I'm in the same canoe as you with 240v single phase my only option to work with. Before all the

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
(just to make sure in case of an abort) o100 repeat [45] Position tool at start of cut Slot cutting Position tool at safe Z G0 X0 Y0 #current-r = [#current-r + 8] G10 L2 P1 R#current-r o100 endrepeat M2 On 5/30/2012 6:59 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 07:15:28 AM John Thornton did

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Only on a LinuxCNC machine will that work... this one is still the DX32 control. John On 5/30/2012 8:07 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 30 May 2012 13:45, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: Before all the experiments I could get 0 to 2k with no problems and would structure my programs around

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Thanks Alex John On 5/30/2012 7:55 AM, Alex Joni wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_circuit from there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RC_Series_Filter_(with_V%26I_Labels).svg and the response: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Series_RC_capacitor_voltage.svg Regards, Alex

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
, 2012 07:15:28 AM John Thornton did opine: I don't have a pole can... I live out in the woods and all the services are underground and I'm serviced with a pad mounted transformer that only feeds my house and shop. I have a 200 amp service that is split between my house and the shop and both have

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
into the newer VFDs so they can run off a Delta supply. H... What are you going to do next? Perhaps I missed something; Did you figure out if that transformer in your machine is a Delta-Wye transformer or not? Dave On 5/30/2012 11:26 AM, John Thornton wrote: Dave and everyone who

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
On 5/30/2012 11:30 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:06:22 PM John Thornton did opine: A subroutine using a coordinate system rotate might be the simplest method. Establish the center of your disk as X and Y0 and do a G10 L2 R between slots. Something like the following

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
I'm guessing I don't need near that size perhaps 9-10 KVA? John On 5/30/2012 12:20 PM, Dave wrote: On 5/30/2012 12:34 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 30 May 2012 17:15, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Perhaps I missed something; Did you figure out if that transformer in your machine is a Delta-Wye

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
On 5/30/2012 12:56 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 01:46:13 PM John Thornton did opine: On 5/30/2012 11:30 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:06:22 PM John Thornton did opine: A subroutine using a coordinate system rotate might be the simplest method

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Unfortunately it is still running the old DX32 control. John On 5/30/2012 1:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: The resistor/capacitor would be a low cost experiment. How do you calculate what the values are for the resistor and the cap? Did you put the resistor in series with one

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
doesn't even have a neutral connection and neither does the machine. From the tone of the tech's voice he hears this problem a lot with 611 drive and rotary phase converters. John On 5/30/2012 1:12 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: I just got off the phone with Siemens tech support

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-30 Thread John Thornton
Those both show an isolating transformer with a bonded neutral on the secondary side as well as a line filter. Is the isolating transformer depicted a delta wye? John On 5/30/2012 2:37 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 30 May 2012 20:19, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com wrote: In that manual after a

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
That's a good idea, I don't hang out at the Zone any more but it's worth a shot. John On 5/30/2012 9:02 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: From the tone of the tech's voice he hears this problem a lot with 611 drive and rotary phase converters. Well, have you checked on CNCZone

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
As an electrician I would agree with you normally. When you leave the world of power distribution and enter the world of electronics the rules might change. In any case I know Andy was just pulling my leg. John On 5/30/2012 8:29 PM, fritz wrote: On 05/29/2012 12:07 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 29

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
converters. The 611 drives are very popular. Many machine manufacturers used them for many years. Those guys have pretty much heard it all. Dave On 5/30/2012 3:19 PM, John Thornton wrote: When we ran the generator we connected the 3 hots as usual and I don't recall if we grounded

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
to find out the price. Input taps for 220 and 240? How is the encoder disk coming along? John On 5/31/2012 7:21 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 31, 2012 07:34:36 AM John Thornton did opine: Interestingly I had a bit of time last night and did some more voltage measurements

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
A little update this morning after last night's experiments I built on that a bit this morning. I upped the MFD's on the B-C and A-C caps a little at a time till I got close to what I think I wanted in voltage. This is what I ended up with... Phase === A-BB-CA-C Caps

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
I've caused my 10hp to grunt with a big load and it appears to slow down then get back up to speed. I've drawn my 3hp RPC down so far the potential relay kicked the start caps back in... it was at that point I knew I could not run my Enco in high speed from the 3hp RPC. The 15hp has a sizable

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
to attach it. It would help the motor supply surge current to the 611 drive. Dave On 5/31/2012 10:04 AM, John Thornton wrote: A little update this morning after last night's experiments I built on that a bit this morning. I upped the MFD's on the B-C and A-C caps a little at a time till I

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
and borrow one first. Know of any plants where you do work that has a spare transformer lying around? I've put a couple of them together before to get the right voltage.. IE 240 to 480 and then 480 to 380 etc. Dave On 5/31/2012 12:06 PM, John Thornton wrote: I just ran another program

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
, 2012 11:28:24 AM John Thornton did opine: I'm sure fresh bearings would help the 15hp and it is a heavy duty TEFC motor. I might pull it apart today and order some new ones... I didn't measure the temperature of the 10hp and only ran a few minutes but I'll keep an eye on it. I didn't ask

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
Well that and for fun too... but I do have a backlog of money to make... John On 5/31/2012 11:56 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:53:37 PM John Thornton did opine: A little update this morning after last night's experiments I built on that a bit this morning. I upped

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
Not too long ago I replaced every cap in the infeed unit, so I know they are all fresh. John On 5/31/2012 12:27 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: The interesting thing that I discovered is if I start up the Samson lathe with the 611 on I get a fault and have to reset the drive

Re: [Emc-users] G92

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
Dunno where you read that but I use G92 for every cutting operation on my plasma table... making sure to clear them when done. I jog to the start point and that becomes XY 0 for the duration of the cut. John On 5/31/2012 12:29 PM, mjb1...@gmail.com wrote: I've written a subroutine that starts

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
I'm not sure what the drives are as they are all in one modular unit and have interconnecting communications between the infeed unit and all the drives. My local voltage is 240 on the mains with 120 to neutral. I've not seen any inverters designed to take single phase in larger than 3hp, I

Re: [Emc-users] G92

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
That is a very old link and is no longer there. The online docs are here: http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/documentation On 5/31/2012 2:37 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: Little OT, regarding homepage: I got curious to find out, what exactly does G92 do and went to search the web. I found out

Re: [Emc-users] G92

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
That is just stale goo cash I assume... none of the old links are any good due to the restructuring of the manuals for 2.5. Best is to use the goo site search like this G21 site:linuxcnc.org John On 5/31/2012 3:29 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: Thank You! Any chance to put redirect or something?

Re: [Emc-users] G92

2012-05-31 Thread John Thornton
yea, non of those pertain to LinuxCNC... I have started a LinuxCNC G code tutorial but it is in it's quite small but is for LinuxCNC exclusively. John On 5/31/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Bennett wrote: It was this thread that made me question it:

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-01 Thread John Thornton
the width between the slots? John On 5/31/2012 10:43 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:29:49 PM John Thornton did opine: Are you tapering the slots so the edges are perpendicular to the center? That was I believe the general idea, John. I have the next one about 1/3rd done

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-01 Thread John Thornton
the slots could be done with less than 30 lines of code and using rotate. One bad thing I noticed is the arcs are using radius which is known to not be perfect in some cases. On 5/31/2012 10:43 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:29:49 PM John Thornton did opine: Are you tapering

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-01 Thread John Thornton
Gene, I used debug to capture the path of the first slot and put it into my subroutine. Run the following in sim and see what you think. Even at F2 and 0.001 DOC one slot only takes a smidgen over 2 minutes to cut in my sim. F2 T1 M6 G43 #z-final = -0.025 #z-step = 0.001 G0 X1.1 Y0 Z0.05

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-01 Thread John Thornton
On 6/1/2012 7:28 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, June 01, 2012 07:20:37 AM John Thornton did opine: No wonder that file takes so long it makes one pass at the OD :) To check fixture clearances. then rapids to a slot makes one pass then rapids to the next slot... then rapids

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-01 Thread John Thornton
why I would try and borrow one first. Know of any plants where you do work that has a spare transformer lying around? I've put a couple of them together before to get the right voltage.. IE 240 to 480 and then 480 to 380 etc. Dave On 5/31/2012 12:06 PM, John Thornton wrote: I just ran

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-02 Thread John Thornton
I just pulled that feed rate out of my ear, assuming if you actually tried to cut you would replace it with a feed rate that worked for you. John On 6/1/2012 5:44 PM, gene heskett wrote: John T.: I did a short pass with your code, cutting 2 slots. Feed way too fast, the slots were badly S

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-02 Thread John Thornton
/2012 5:52 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, June 01, 2012 06:50:05 PM John Thornton did opine: I posted on the C(ommerical)NCZone and a guy there says those drives are rated for a 3% inductance wye isolation transformer. John BS alert there John. 3% of what? Without a frame of reference

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-03 Thread John Thornton
Currently with the 10hp idler and the Samson lathe running as a second idler and the 611 in the BP 308 on I have the voltage balanced at 245 between all three phases give or take one volt. The VMC will make parts and run at 2k with full rapid speeds or ramp up with G code to 6k and run about

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-03 Thread John Thornton
On 6/2/2012 2:14 PM, Dave wrote: Unfortunately if he buys a transformer it still might not work. That is why I would try and borrow one before opening my wallet for $1400. I hope to borrow one before dumping more cash into this machine, as stiff as the phase converter is not I'm wondering

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-03 Thread John Thornton
an hour our of it. Still, a drive isolation transformer might clear up these problems entirely (assuming the infeed unit is not malfunctioning) Dave On 6/3/2012 9:08 AM, John Thornton wrote: Currently with the 10hp idler and the Samson lathe running as a second idler and the 611

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-03 Thread John Thornton
with disabling regeneration might solve your problems? Dave On 6/3/2012 9:29 AM, John Thornton wrote: On 6/2/2012 2:14 PM, Dave wrote: Unfortunately if he buys a transformer it still might not work. That is why I would try and borrow one before opening my wallet for $1400. I hope to borrow one

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-03 Thread John Thornton
distorted sine waves (with harmonics), perhaps putting the infeed into square wave mode would make it much more tolerant of line noise ?? Or perhaps turning on square wave input mode along with disabling regeneration might solve your problems? Dave On 6/3/2012 9:29 AM, John Thornton wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
I make some parts. John On 6/3/2012 1:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Thornton wrote: Currently with the 10hp idler and the Samson lathe running as a second idler and the 611 in the BP 308 on I have the voltage balanced at 245 between all three phases give or take one volt. The VMC will make

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
. Dave On 6/3/2012 11:43 AM, John Thornton wrote: My infeed looks like Fig 6-2 on page 6-143. John On 6/3/2012 9:44 AM, Dave wrote: What is your S1-3 dipswitch switch settings on the infeed module? Do you have regeneration back into the line turned on? That might be a situation

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
stuff) is rated for 600 volts. Most good DVM leads are rated for at least 600 volts. That way perhaps you can glance at the meter when you hear the tone change. Dave On 6/4/2012 6:40 AM, John Thornton wrote: Yesterday I made some parts and had a giant fan on the drive to see

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
. . A multimeter, like an old Simpson 260, will gradually start reading high, but eventually will pin the needle and let all the magic smoke out. Don't ask me how I know. :) On 6/4/2012 6:40 AM, John Thornton wrote: Yesterday I made some parts and had a giant fan on the drive to see if it is a cooling

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
You should have seen that redneck circus... that was funny trying to keep the power unit running anything near 1800 RPM with no frequency feedback. John On 6/4/2012 1:12 PM, Jon Elson wrote: ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Hi John, Too bad you can't connect your machine to a solid 3-ph line to

Re: [Emc-users] CNC4PC C10 Breakout Board

2007-07-25 Thread John Thornton
On 24 Jul 2007 at 12:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the description of the board, I see no reason why it would not work with emc's hal_parport in I or O mode. It would not work with boards like the Universal Stepper Controller or Pluto Servo Controller which use the parallel port

[Emc-users] EMC2 Interface

2007-07-26 Thread John Thornton
Is it possible to change the EMC2 Interface? For example I'm used to having an X, Y, Z Zero button. Only one interface has a X Zero button. Thanks John - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping

[Emc-users] TkEMC Interface

2007-07-27 Thread John Thornton
I do know about the Axis Slider on TkEMC as far as setting the jog speed. Does the number indicate the jog speed in inches per minute when your units are Inches? I found the tkemc.tcl file and it appears to be a basic like language. What language is it? Is the file read each time you load

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