Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 19 August 2015 05:14:57 andy pugh wrote: > On 19 August 2015 at 01:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> You can use a coaxial. > >> A cheap aftermarket brake disc makes a nice target surface. > > > > I am fresh out of those. Darn it. > > I was thinking that they might be cheap enough to buy

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 August 2015 at 01:23, Gene Heskett wrote: >> You can use a coaxial. >> A cheap aftermarket brake disc makes a nice target surface. > > I am fresh out of those. Darn it. I was thinking that they might be cheap enough to buy one just for the job: http://www.amazon.com/Centric-121-46057-Front

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 13:54:51 John Kasunich wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 01:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 08/18/2015 11:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And that indicator mount is obviously NOT the spindle. URL for > > > such a gizmo? Or did you make it, since that generally IS what w

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 13:39:36 andy pugh wrote: > On 18 August 2015 at 18:15, Jon Elson wrote: > > I use a cheap Chinese knockoff of an indi-col. But, you can > > probably cobble up something easily that will work as well, > > You can use a coaxial. > A cheap aftermarket brake disc makes a n

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 13:37:34 John Kasunich wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 August 2015 12:32:30 Ken Strauss wrote: > > > I haven't closely followed this thread but what is wrong with the > > > traditional method of sweeping a DTI attached to

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread George Ramsower
On 8/18/2015 4:23 PM, Steve Dawson wrote: > On 08/18/2015 03:31 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: >> >> On 08/18/2015 02:53 PM, George Ramsower wrote: >>> Okay, a coat hanger is not scientific but it was handy. >> Real geeks don't use coat hangers. Real geeks use stainless welding >> rod. It sounds much g

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Steve Dawson
On 08/18/2015 03:31 PM, Bruce Layne wrote: > > > On 08/18/2015 02:53 PM, George Ramsower wrote: >> Okay, a coat hanger is not scientific but it was handy. > > Real geeks don't use coat hangers. Real geeks use stainless welding > rod. It sounds much geekier. > > :-) > > > > Example: I use

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Bruce Layne
On 08/18/2015 02:53 PM, George Ramsower wrote: > Okay, a coat hanger is not scientific but it was handy. Real geeks don't use coat hangers. Real geeks use stainless welding rod. It sounds much geekier. :-) Example: I used a couple of stainless welding rods to make a Jacob's Ladder.

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread George Ramsower
When I built my tiny micro-mill, I used a coat hanger wire bent on the ends to enable me to mount it in the dremel and the other end was bent down to touch the table. Then I could lower the head until the wire would just touch the table at one point in a circle. At that time, I knew which way

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 01:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 08/18/2015 11:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > And that indicator mount is obviously NOT the spindle. URL for such a > > gizmo? Or did you make it, since that generally IS what we do. ;-) First you need an indicator clamp that will atta

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 August 2015 at 18:15, Jon Elson wrote: > I use a cheap Chinese knockoff of an indi-col. But, you can > probably cobble up something easily that will work as well, You can use a coaxial. A cheap aftermarket brake disc makes a nice target surface. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread John Kasunich
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 18 August 2015 12:32:30 Ken Strauss wrote: > > > I haven't closely followed this thread but what is wrong with the > > traditional method of sweeping a DTI attached to the end of an > > L-shaped rod secured in the spindle? Simpl

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 13:15:38 Jon Elson wrote: > On 08/18/2015 11:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that indicator mount is obviously NOT the spindle. URL for such > > a gizmo? Or did you make it, since that generally IS what we do. > > ;-) > > I use a cheap Chinese knockoff of an indi-col.

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/18/2015 11:34 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that indicator mount is obviously NOT the spindle. URL for such a > gizmo? Or did you make it, since that generally IS what we do. ;-) > > I use a cheap Chinese knockoff of an indi-col. But, you can probably cobble up something easily that will

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 12:32:30 Ken Strauss wrote: > I haven't closely followed this thread but what is wrong with the > traditional method of sweeping a DTI attached to the end of an > L-shaped rod secured in the spindle? Simple, time tested and very > accurate. The table is currently occupie

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 12:14:51 Jon Elson wrote: > On 08/18/2015 07:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I am getting an artifact in my carving such that when the mating > > pieces are turned around and the joints meshed, indicates the head > > may be tilted a fraction of a deg

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Ken Strauss
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:26 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb? > > On Tuesday 18 August 2015 11:50:30 Russell Brown wrote: > > > Quoth Gene Heskett. > > > > >indicates the head

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 11:50:30 Russell Brown wrote: > Quoth Gene Heskett. > > >indicates the head may be tilted a fraction of a degree. > > Look for Hoss's G0704 tramming videos on Youtube: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q61UAnOTA > > He shows how it's done with silver steel^W drill

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/18/2015 07:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am getting an artifact in my carving such that when the mating pieces > are turned around and the joints meshed, indicates the head may be > tilted a fraction of a degree. My method for checking this is to have a program that mills

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 10:11:31 John Kasunich wrote: > The test you described would tell you if the spindle axis is not > parallel to the Z axis (the column). It would not tell you if the > column is tilted relative to the table. I don't know which type of > error you suspect - I'd think the

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Russell Brown
Quoth Gene Heskett. >indicates the head may be tilted a fraction of a degree. Look for Hoss's G0704 tramming videos on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q61UAnOTA He shows how it's done with silver steel^W drill rod and a DTI. Tram the spindle to the column first as these rotating

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 09:53:59 N. Christopher Perry wrote: > What are you going to use to run the indicator up and down the rod? > If it is a reasonably well made height gage you should be fine. > > N. Christopher Perry > Indicator will be fixed to the table, on a magnetic base & adjustable

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread John Kasunich
The test you described would tell you if the spindle axis is not parallel to the Z axis (the column). It would not tell you if the column is tilted relative to the table. I don't know which type of error you suspect - I'd think the latter would be more likely. Update: I went and looked at some p

Re: [Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread N. Christopher Perry
What are you going to use to run the indicator up and down the rod? If it is a reasonably well made height gage you should be fine. N. Christopher Perry > On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > I am getting an artifact in my carving such that when the mating

[Emc-users] Resetting a tilt-able head to plumb?

2015-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am getting an artifact in my carving such that when the mating pieces are turned around and the joints meshed, indicates the head may be tilted a fraction of a degree. The indicator pointers location prevents it from being viewed headon because you can't see thru the quill, so