Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/7/5 Kenneth Lerman kenneth.ler...@se-ltd.com Checking that every pin goes where it belongs is necessary, but not sufficient. You must also test that no pin goes where it doesn't belong. Did you check to see if any pins were shorted to each other? I checked power cable all the possible

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: It was a matter of good luck for multimeter to show this particular wire lead to be ok. No, that is bad luck when testing a defective connection shows it to be good! The end result is - a little soldering and problem solved! Machine works! Thanks everyone for your

[Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! I am stuck with a servo motor issue that I have no idea for the cause. Machine has 5i23 and 2x 7i39 cards with total of 4 servo motors. I set it up 2 months ago and it was working correctly. Machine was idle for few weeks until now. Motors 0, 1, 2 are working correctly, motor 3 does not

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 July 2013 16:45, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 4) I tried to spin the motor in bldc config=n with bldc.value 0.15 and bldc.frequency explicitly set at 0,15 and 3 respectively (motor should slowly rotate as soon as pwmgen is enabled), but it moves just a very little and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: The drive is ok, motor is ok, cable is ok, but now they are not working together. Everything was fine few weeks ago. Make sure, with a voltmeter, that the commutation signals from the motor are working, and giving a valid logic swing as you rotate the motors. Some Hall

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/7/5 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Viesturs Lācis wrote: The drive is ok, motor is ok, cable is ok, but now they are not working together. Everything was fine few weeks ago. Make sure, with a voltmeter, that the commutation signals from the motor are working, and giving a valid

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 July 2013 17:18, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Make sure, with a voltmeter, that the commutation signals from the motor are working, In n mode the system should be acting like a dumb vfd, and no commutation is used. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Viesturs. Did you already check the motor windings resistence/impedence ? Did the motor get any kind of torque ? On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/7/5 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Viesturs Lācis wrote: The drive is ok, motor is

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread alex chiosso
oh sorry . Sure you already did it . Sometimes appened that you can measure the cable resistence with the multimeter and everything seems ok but after that if you apply voltage to the wires the problems come . Did you use extra flexible cables for the motor supply ? Are the cables fitted inside a

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
The motor works fine, when I swapped it on the machine with another one. 2013/7/5 alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com Hi Viesturs. Did you already check the motor windings resistence/impedence ? Did the motor get any kind of torque ? On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Viesturs Lācis

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/7/5 alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com Did you use extra flexible cables for the motor supply ? I do not understand, what you mean. Are the cables fitted inside a cable chain ? Yes. If yes are you sure that the cable fitting respect the manufacturer specifications ? This is motor

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread alex chiosso
First all the cable must be shielded. Secondary fot this kind of application you need at least flexible shielded cables. If you search for on google I am sure you will find many cable manufacturers for that kind. Il giorno 05/lug/2013 17:57, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com ha scritto:

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread alex chiosso
Of course is not the shield the problem! The issue is that the cable used seems to be not ok. Shield is anyway a must for servo applications. And a flexible or extra flexible is a must for mobile cable chain/tray. I know about cables not working after time due to mechanical stress. Il giorno

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Dave
.75 mm^2 is a light. I probably would have gone with at least 1.25 to 1.5 mm^2, but if you have rung out the cables for continuity, that is not going to keep things from moving. And this setup was working before.. right? Igus sells some very nice shielded trailing (Hi Flex) cables for

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/7/5 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Did you check for pin-to-pin shorts in the wiring? That seems very unlikely, but I will check that to be completely sure. 2013/7/5 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com .75 mm^2 is a light. I probably would have gone with at least 1.25 to 1.5 mm^2, but if you have

Re: [Emc-users] Servo issue

2013-07-05 Thread Kenneth Lerman
See below... On 7/5/2013 11:45 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: Hello! I am stuck with a servo motor issue that I have no idea for the cause. Machine has 5i23 and 2x 7i39 cards with total of 4 servo motors. I set it up 2 months ago and it was working correctly. Machine was idle for few weeks until