Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/28/2014 6:20 PM, andy pugh wrote: I want this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gorton-Master-Surface-Plate-Historical-Vintage-Original-8000lbs-MSP-1928-/161246759544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item258b0e4a78 Now that is a surface plate. And it is not shiny. Look at the plate. Over 7 years to

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:22 PM, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Do NOT do that to a precision plate in an ISO9000 shop. But if he is determined to make his cheap grade B plate shiny, then why not? Thanks for all the information everyone. My 1080 pound 4x5 foot granite surface has

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I just received a grade B granite surface that has a very dull/matte finish. I was planning to use it for both reference and photography and the image advertised showed it glossy (which is why I ordered it). I contacted the

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Lester Caine
Jeshua Lacock wrote: The reason I got my new surface was so that I could have a studio semi-permanetly set up for most shots I need, then if I needed a bigger surface I could set up the studio in the shop. I have a convenient 1.2mt square granite work surface and a long 70cm wide run around

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/29/2014 03:39 AM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: My 1080 pound 4x5 foot granite surface has a glass cut looking surface that I bought surplus. Anyways, do you think the reason it is shiny is because it is grade A, while the grade B should be matte? It is most likely an optical bench, made

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 March 2014 12:41:32 Jeshua Lacock did opine: On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I just received a grade B granite surface that has a very dull/matte finish. I was planning to use it for both reference and photography and the image advertised

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/29/2014 11:01 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/29/2014 03:39 AM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: My 1080 pound 4x5 foot granite surface has a glass cut looking surface that I bought surplus. Anyways, do you think the reason it is shiny is because it is grade A, while the grade B should be matte?

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/29/2014 03:39 AM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: My 1080 pound 4x5 foot granite surface has a glass cut looking surface that I bought surplus. Anyways, do you think the reason it is shiny is because it is grade A, while the grade B

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 March 2014 07:44, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I rewrote my BillsMill.hal based on one in LinuxCNC forum Sept 2012 What did you edit it with? The error message is: BillsMill.hal:1: Unknown command 'Ôªø' Which looks like the hal file is not a plain text file any more. -- atp If

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread andy pugh
Having looked at the config which you attached, I am rather puzzled. There seem to be many more files than I would expect, files named the same as pins. Very peculiar. On 29 March 2014 20:41, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2014 07:44, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Peter, thanks for you reply. Its hard to tell with motor specifications, sometimes they are RMS and sometimes they are DC (for example lots of large BLDC motors are rated 320V which actually means they are 220V AC motors) I see. I'll stick with 24 V for now, the power supply is a 350 W

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy, I decided to put the system on my desk to investigate the case, this took a while. How are you commutating? The present configuration is 'qh'(use encoder input, use hall sensor input). I didn't override the default commutation setting, so I think its sinusoidal. Here are my config

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 March 2014 18:18:45 andy pugh did opine: Having looked at the config which you attached, I am rather puzzled. There seem to be many more files than I would expect, files named the same as pins. Very peculiar. How did you unpack that zip? I couldn't get anything out of it that

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014, Florian Rist wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 23:02:03 +0100 From: Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi, an brief update, because my current measurement was wrong. I now used a normal ampere meter (Flue 87V) and measured a maximum current of 3.5 A. (I commanded the motor to a position where the phase I observed was at maximum current under low load and than increased the load until the motor

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Peter Where did you measure the current? I measured one phase. (you may indeed measure 600mA in the power leads with current limiting (7.5A) in the driver) The 600 mA was mistake, current reaches 3.5 A actually. If you see a red LED light on the 7I39, you have reached the current

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 29 Mar 2014, at 22:08, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: How are you commutating? The present configuration is 'qh'(use encoder input, use hall sensor input). I didn't override the default commutation setting, so I think its sinusoidal. It is probably worth checking that it works

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy It is probably worth checking that it works properly in plain h mode as a test that the hall pattern is correct. I'll try. What would be the best setting? The drivers have 3 hall sensors and a 4000 CPR encoder with index. But the 600mA at stall looks like the real issue. No, this

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 March 2014 23:17, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: What would be the best setting? The drivers have 3 hall sensors and a 4000 CPR encoder with index. qh is almost certainly the best. You could try qhi if, and only if, you are sure of the index pulse orientation. -- atp If you can't

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Peter, I'll pull the current limit jumper and report back. Thanks. OK, now the jumper are moved from left to right and I reached 6 A max. on one phase. Better. Torque does not feel much stronger though. And the over current LED still light up. But now the current limit is protecting the

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC Servo Torque Problem?

2014-03-29 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy qh is almost certainly the best. You could try qhi if, and only if, you are sure of the index pulse orientation. I don't know the orientation aka offset, but I tried to measure it, by observing the index signal, the encoder counter and the hall sensors in hal scope. I think I got it

[Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-29 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
I'm wondering if this mill would make a good retrofit candidate for LinuxCNC: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/4397110377.html The price seems right for a CNC capable machine, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of gotchas for this particular brand or model. It doesn't seem like a great

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-29 Thread Andy Pugh
On 30 Mar 2014, at 00:45, Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net wrote: I'm wondering if this mill would make a good retrofit candidate for LinuxCNC: I would have thought so. 3hp sounds like plenty to me. My 2hp mill never slows down even with the big cutters.

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/29/2014 01:37 PM, Dave Cole wrote: Are you familiar with Optical benches/tables? I bought a 5'x8' ground cast iron optical table that is supported by air bellows although a couple of them are missing. It was made in three sections and then pinned together. It has a few small holes

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/29/2014 07:45 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I'm wondering if this mill would make a good retrofit candidate for LinuxCNC: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/4397110377.html The price seems right for a CNC capable machine, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of gotchas for this

[Emc-users] Fw: Re: Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread Bill
Hi All Current problem solved. I opened the .hal file in Gedit then saved it. I worked on my main computer. Tryout on my Mill computer tomorrow' Thanks All ---Original Message--- From: Bill Date: 03/30/14 07:52:17 To: andy pugh Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill