Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 1/25/2016 6:28 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Erik, > better let's be it as it is with metric thread values. If you are > selling things over here containing non-DIN/ISO threads (and other > things), you will be liable for all damage that could occur with them in > ordinary use and you will have to

Re: [Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread bari
Camunits hasn't been touched in 6 years. https://code.google.com/archive/p/camunits/ All the cool kids are using OpenCV http://opencv.org/ Circle recognition - opencv to linuxcnc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe2RACwiEbg I've considered making new packages for Linuxcnc using OpenCV. On

Re: [Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 23:44:49 bari wrote: > Camunits hasn't been touched in 6 years. > https://code.google.com/archive/p/camunits/ > So we have noticed. > All the cool kids are using OpenCV > http://opencv.org/ Yee gawds, the git clone is north of 400 MiB! Nevertheless, it has been built

Re: [Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread tom-emc
Sorry, Pavel Shramov: shra...@mexmat.net. -Tom > On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 25 January 2016 23:01:45 tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > >> It was Pavel Sharmov. His email address back in 2010 was: >> shra...@mexmat.net -Tom >> > Or sharmov@? > >

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Dave Cole
I used to work for Siemens. True, you can servo any motor, but whether it can be an effective positioning drive is really the question. It all comes down to how precise you need to be able to position the drive. We would have loved to have servo'ed standard 3 phase AC induction motors for

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.01.16 18:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 25 January 2016 18:34:10 John Figie wrote: > > > Why not reference the Machineries Handbook? > > > I have a copy of #27. Its been less than Biblical to me. > > 1. Hard to find in the index. > > 2. Once you THINK you have found the proper

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread tom-emc
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:45 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > So you either have to somehow get a finger on something to provide > enough drag to force the ratchet to do its job, or you're stuck > constantly swapping and flipping two different open end wrenches because > the

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 22:45:18 Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On 1/25/2016 6:28 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > > Erik, > > better let's be it as it is with metric thread values. If you are > > selling things over here containing non-DIN/ISO threads (and other > > things), you will be liable for all

[Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I just now got the bounced message, the address in the camview web page of deb...@psha.org.ru, is a bounce so no wonder I haven't heard back. G. Looks like we are well and truly on our own on this one. Unless someone can actually remember the persons name that did those

Re: [Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 23:01:45 tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > It was Pavel Sharmov. His email address back in 2010 was: > shra...@mexmat.net -Tom > Or sharmov@? I'll see if I can send a pleading his way once that question is settled. Thanks Tom-emc. But, since its getting closer all the time for

Re: [Emc-users] Camview-emc update

2016-01-25 Thread tom-emc
It was Pavel Sharmov. His email address back in 2010 was: shra...@mexmat.net -Tom > On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > I just now got the bounced message, the address in the camview web page > of deb...@psha.org.ru, is a bounce so no

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
And you can use padx and pady on some widgets to align stuff... JT On 1/24/2016 8:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I go about setting the vertical size of a ... > construction? > > How do I set the vertical position of the text? > > How do I move the led so as to center it in the box? > >

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 06:33:48 John Thornton wrote: > As far as I know you can't set the size of a container as it > grows/shrinks to fit the objects it contains. You can however set the > size of the led as well as padding. > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/pyvcp.html#_leds > > JT

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Peter Blodow
Erik, better let's be it as it is with metric thread values. If you are selling things over here containing non-DIN/ISO threads (and other things), you will be liable for all damage that could occur with them in ordinary use and you will have to prove that your threads are just as good as

[Emc-users] GladeVCP in Debian

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
And well documented is the requirement for editing a gladevcp file... http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/gladevcp.html#gladevcp:prerequisites JT On 1/25/2016 7:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 25 January 2016 06:33:48 John Thornton wrote: > >> As far as I know you can't set the size of

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.01.16 14:28, Peter Blodow wrote: > I have run a machine shop with up to twenty workers for 36 years and I > never heard about percentage of engagement etc. Peter, On the 10.2mm hole for M12x1.75, given in the table you posted yesterday, engagement is 84% - very strong, but hard on taps.

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
Also note that you can use a blank label as a spacer add spaces for horizontal spacing. Put some blank labels into a container for more spacing. JT On 1/24/2016 8:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I go about setting the vertical size of a ... > construction? > > How do I set the vertical

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Marius Alksnys
01/24/2016 11:55 PM, Gene Heskett rašė: > On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:30:45 Marius Alksnys wrote: > >> 01/24/2016 04:37 PM, Dave Cole rašė: >>> Is the positioning ability adequate? >> >> I am impressed how strong it holds in position even when fed with DC >> current (freq = 0). I can't force it

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
can you attach the xml file so I can "see" what your seeing? JT On 1/24/2016 8:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I go about setting the vertical size of a ... > construction? > > How do I set the vertical position of the text? > > How do I move the led so as to center it in the box? > >

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
and in about an hour more info will be in the docs... JT On 1/24/2016 8:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I go about setting the vertical size of a ... > construction? > > How do I set the vertical position of the text? > > How do I move the led so as to center it in the box? > > Thanks

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 13:29:35 John Kasunich wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 01:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Now if Marius can clarify by asking the driver to go 5 rpm, and > > getting 5 rpm exactly. Or driving it temporarily with line frequency > > power while watching it under

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread John Kasunich
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 02:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Even unloaded, the slippage is usually north of 20 rpm & quite visible. Guess that depends on the motor. Modern industrial size (1HP and up) three-phase high efficiency induction motors often have rated speeds of 1780 or 1785 RPM,

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 07:51:31 John Thornton wrote: > Also note that you can use a blank label as a spacer add spaces for > horizontal spacing. Put some blank labels into a container for more > spacing. > > JT > I don't want to put more space in John, I want to take it out, its excessive. I

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 12:56:41 John Kasunich wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 25 January 2016 08:00:12 Marius Alksnys wrote: > > > 01/24/2016 11:55 PM, Gene Heskett rašė: > > > > On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:30:45 Marius Alksnys wrote: > > > >>

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 08:00:12 Marius Alksnys wrote: > 01/24/2016 11:55 PM, Gene Heskett rašė: > > On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:30:45 Marius Alksnys wrote: > >> 01/24/2016 04:37 PM, Dave Cole rašė: > >>> Is the positioning ability adequate? > >> > >> I am impressed how strong it holds in

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread John Kasunich
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 01:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Now if Marius can clarify by asking the driver to go 5 rpm, and getting 5 > rpm exactly. Or driving it temporarily with line frequency power while > watching it under flourescent lighting. If the blur is stationary, it > is a

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 08:31:58 John Thornton wrote: > can you attach the xml file so I can "see" what your seeing? > > JT Attached. Its the one that generated the snapshot. If I reduce the widths of the leds, the first one on the left stays moderately well centered horizontally, but the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread John Kasunich
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 25 January 2016 08:00:12 Marius Alksnys wrote: > > > 01/24/2016 11:55 PM, Gene Heskett rašė: > > > On Sunday 24 January 2016 16:30:45 Marius Alksnys wrote: > > >> 01/24/2016 04:37 PM, Dave Cole rašė: > > >>> Is the positioning

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
We got an inch and it's gone now :) Attach the xml file so I can "see" what your seeing. JT On 1/25/2016 10:53 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 25 January 2016 07:51:31 John Thornton wrote: > >> Also note that you can use a blank label as a spacer add spaces for >> horizontal spacing. Put

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
No mixup. I used to work for GE (and Hughes) designing AC induction drives for mostly traction applications. You can servo **ANY** induction motor. The only limit to frequency response is the inductance and that can be solved with high enough bus voltage (DC motors and steppers have the exact

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
Here you go Gene. JT On 1/25/2016 12:04 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 25 January 2016 08:31:58 John Thornton wrote: can you attach the xml file so I can "see" what your seeing? JT Attached. Its the one that generated the snapshot. If I reduce the widths of the leds, the first one on

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 14:48:49 John Kasunich wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016, at 02:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Even unloaded, the slippage is usually north of 20 rpm & quite > > visible. > > Guess that depends on the motor. > > Modern industrial size (1HP and up) three-phase high efficiency

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 15:45:45 John Thornton wrote: > Here you go Gene. > > JT > That is considerably better John, thanks a bunch. Now I'll have to do some blink compares to see if I can learn. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot,

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread John Figie
Why not reference the Machineries Handbook? https://www.google.com/search?q=diyhpl.us+%E2%80%BA+papers2+%E2%80%BA+27_Thread_09A=diyhpl.us+%E2%80%BA+papers2+%E2%80%BA+27_Thread_09A=chrome..69i57.1787j0j4=ms-android-att-us=chrome-mobile=UTF-8 On Jan 25, 2016 4:33 PM, "Peter Blodow"

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Peter Blodow
Erik, right tomorrow morning I'll copy another table (fine threads) for you, for today I have had sufficient wine for not attempting (I found a 30 year old bottle this afternoon in our rarely used basement room). In case you need the size still tonight: the formula: diameter minus pitch is

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread tom-emc
As is often the case with data in Machinery’s Handbook, the specific information one is trying to find is difficult to locate. After many minutes of scanning I found the tolerances of a class 6H internal metric thread M12 1.5 thread: Minor Diameter - Min:10.376 Max:10.676. So, this says that

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 January 2016 18:34:10 John Figie wrote: > Why not reference the Machineries Handbook? > I have a copy of #27. Its been less than Biblical to me. 1. Hard to find in the index. 2. Once you THINK you have found the proper table, the column heading abbreviations are quite often so

[Emc-users] Calculating thread engagement [Was: Rigid tapping speed advice]

2016-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.01.16 14:16, tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > OSG, referenced earlier by John Thornton, has this tool > (http://www.osgtool.com/Technical.asp?tid=1=1) that calculates hole > size given Major Dia, Pitch, and Engagement (% of Thread). Their > numbers seem to be slightly different than Erik’s though,

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 24.01.16 12:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > In my case, making that very slow to lock position part of the m5 command > would be one way to stop it quickly as Jon's servo driver, with my > current PID settings, can take it from 2700 to 25 rpm in a very small > fraction of a second. All I hear is a

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread John Thornton
As far as I know you can't set the size of a container as it grows/shrinks to fit the objects it contains. You can however set the size of the led as well as padding. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/pyvcp.html#_leds JT On 1/24/2016 8:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > How do I go about

Re: [Emc-users] pyvcp/xml syntax

2016-01-25 Thread TJoseph Powderly
for the 3 q's basicly you dont you dont you dont pyvcp uses a simplified render-er and 'mini-gl' you can put empty looking things to push what you want into a vertical/horizontal/centered position read the src code i made custom libs to allow more of the common markup attributes it was not