Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Les Newell
Yes, 6mm (1/4") MDF works well. It has a bit of restriction so you don't lose all of your vacuum when you cut right through your parts. What sort of vacuum pumps did you have in mind? You'll probably need a minimum of 250 cubic metres per hour for decent hold down. In terms of motor size,

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Roland Jollivet
A friend was complaining about the need for 6kW vacuum system on a large table and this got me thinking Another way is to divide the table up into squares, grid wise, and have a .. separate.. vacuum motor for each section. The motor is mounted under the table at the bottom of each 'box'. You

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
1/4" MDF is too thin to skin off the dense layers. (It almost doesn't' even have a porous core like thicker MDFs) And it doesn't offer much protection from coding mistakes. I prefer 3/4" MDF and then mill off about 0.05" off of each sided to open it up. Then you have enough thickness to skim

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 10:49 PM Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > I've been reading and apparently MDF with a skim cut is pretty good to > distribute the vacuum all around it's surface given its porosity. I think > I'm gonna try that option first to see how severe is the vacuum loss when > the cuts are

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
For milling sheet material on a large table, an MDF spoil board on top of a vacuum grid is usually the best option. But for small parts such as solid wood items vacuum pods are usually a better choice. In a pod arrangement with the part held directly is where the valves are useful. Todd

[Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread Roland Jollivet
Hi I was wondering what experience people have had with the CUI encoders. Mostly looking at the costs. The AMT13 series comes as a kit with all the adapters, at $33 But it's supplied with no female connector. You might only realise this when you open the box, after paying for shipping, duties

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
Some CNC lasers and plasma cutters use zoned smoke collection system that opens different shutters depending on the gantry position. Might something similar work for holding the workpiece? Thaddeus Waldner Newdale School Elkton, SD 57026 From: Roland Jollivet

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Les Newell
I tested a 1.5kW vacuum cleaner motor for this application a while back and wasn't impressed. They don't generate enough vacuum in my opinion. You really need vane pumps or side channel blowers. Vane pumps generate a very strong vacuum but use a lot of power. Side channel blowers generate more

Re: [Emc-users] OT: About a chat here on vacuum table ideas

2021-06-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
There is a wide discrepancy between the levels of vacuum that different types of vacuum pumps and blowers can generate. Some kinds are rotary screw pumps, liquid ring pumps, rotary vane pumps, positive displacement blowers like a roots blower, or regenerative blowers (which are more like a

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread John Dammeyer
I've used the AMT112Q-V without any issues compared to the problems with the US Digital ones. And they fit better. > -Original Message- > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > Sent: June-09-21 12:36 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread andrew beck
For what is lts worth you can get a 2500ppr encoder for 30usd from my servo supplier. Or a a 5000ppr. Or you can go absolute. And get a 13 something ppr encoder. They are about 70usd I think I think it's 17bit. But would have to check On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:31 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
in the datasheet the accuracy 0.2 degrees so, in my mind, it is no better than a 1800 count encoder if that.. I have used them in the past - they work ok for things like spindle feedback. In my experience - for servo positioning feedback - it is too noisy..

Re: [Emc-users] CUI devices

2021-06-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
remember to read the spec sheet for the accuracy of the encoder - I was looking at some 15 bit encoders or some such and they didn't seem that great... On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:14 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > I've used the AMT112Q-V without any issues compared to the problems with > the US