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> From: andrew beck
> Sent: November 5, 2020 4:26 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] pathpilot high speed machining
>
> awesome
>
> I have looked at it before
>
> thinking about using it on a slant bed lathe
on using PP on non-Tormach hardware.
-Original Message-
From: andrew beck
Sent: November 5, 2020 4:26 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] pathpilot high speed machining
awesome
I have looked at it before
thinking about using it on a slant bed lathe I have
awesome
I have looked at it before
thinking about using it on a slant bed lathe I have just not sure if I want
to go down that track of hacking it
are you running it stock standard on a tormach machine or have you hacked
it for your own retrofits?
I am slightly concerned that I think they use
Basically it is just LinuxCNC under the hood. Tormach funded a better
trajectory planner, They have a added an attractive which includes easy to
use routines for probing, surfacing, drilling in patterns, thread milling,
support for their ATC, SmartCool (like a Haas PCool), etc. I've been using
PP
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot
A Linux system replacing a Windows system yet no swearing and
cussing in those discussions!!! :-)
The big problem appears to be that some existing systems cannot read
the DVDs.
A few years ago most people would have claimed that conversion would
A Linux system replacing a Windows system yet no swearing and
cussing in those discussions!!! :-)
The big problem appears to be that some existing systems cannot read
the DVDs.
A few years ago most people would have claimed that conversion would be
an utter failure as no one but
Some discussions
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/tormach-personal-cnc-mill/261218-software.html
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On 18 February 2015 at 01:52, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the least they
could do is to make it available to the community as a whole in some shape
or form.
There is a secondary issue here that should be considered.
If Tormach or any other end-user want to make a change to
On 02/19/2015 09:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take
some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use
the same name.
Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a
trademark
On 2/23/2015 11:12 AM, dave wrote:
IIRC Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol for Smithy. A couple of years ago
it was moved to public domain.
I don't recall that ever being mentioned on the EMC2/LinuxCNC email list?
Where is it at??
Dave
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On 2/23/2015 1:49 PM, dave wrote:
Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol
http://www.webersys.com/
Synergy looks a bit like Ez-trol but I don't see any free copies of
Synergy being given away or links to the source code... only a 30 day
free trial.
Perhaps we have a different idea of what is Public
On 02/23/2015 09:19 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
On 2/23/2015 11:12 AM, dave wrote:
IIRC Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol for Smithy. A couple of years ago
it was moved to public domain.
I don't recall that ever being mentioned on the EMC2/LinuxCNC email list?
Where is it at??
Dave
It is amazing
On 2/18/2015 7:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 08:50:21 PM Gregg Eshelman wrote:
On 2/18/2015 7:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
In any event, I still think you paint them (Tormach) with much too
black a brush.
The company that deserves that is Makerbot. Another one is
Andy -
the LinuxCNC community develops a case of PathPilot envy, someone will
write an open source version.
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros
:-)
you have been elected to now do the same for Mills. :-)
John.
There is actually a universal drop-in made by Nick Drobchenko over at
the russian site cnc club
He calls it Features, and it a veeery flexible conversational..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOJhT69WEc
Download link; https://github.com/cnc-club/linuxcnc-features
// Andreas
John Alexander
On 18.02.15 14:35, Bruce Layne wrote:
Early on, I did say that I doubted a lot of that code will be open
source, and frankly I still do for the user interface and conversational
wizards. They made a substantial investment to develop some of that
code and I think they'd probably like to
patents.
-- Ralph
From: Gregg Eshelman [g_ala...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:00 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot
On 2/18/2015 7:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 08:50:21 PM
On 2/19/2015 2:57 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
If I sold hardware, used LinuxCNC, and developed a proprietary user
interface, with the purpose of providing the customer a superior
ergonomic and comfortable feel when using my machines, then I would also
refrain from making it OSS. (We have
On 2/19/2015 9:13 AM, Len Shelton wrote:
Your logic falls apart when
DISPLAY = PathPilot
yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display.
It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads:
Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new machine controller
rather than:
Introducing
On 2/19/2015 10:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take
some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use
the same name.
Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a
trademark
This is correct, if they distribute the software in any way, they are
supposed to provide the source
code within that distribution (See siemens and samsung installation
discs). But later on with GPL you
were also supposed to publish your work for download (This is rarely
followed). That is
Your logic falls apart when
DISPLAY = PathPilot
yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display.
It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads:
Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new machine controller
rather than:
Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new GUI for LinuxCNC
,
is large enough to fight back, and has challenged some
Stratasys patents.
-- Ralph
From: Gregg Eshelman [g_ala...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:00 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot
On 2/18/2015 7
Where's the damn Like Button Len... LOL
Pete
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote:
Your logic falls apart when
DISPLAY = PathPilot
yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display.
It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads:
Introducing
Has any of these guys read Just for Fun or Rebel Code ?
Trying to corner open source is a failed strategy.
Dick
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From: Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 03:00:10 AM Gregg Eshelman wrote:
On 2/18/2015 7:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 08:50:21 PM Gregg Eshelman wrote:
On 2/18/2015 7:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
In any event, I still think you paint them (Tormach) with much too
black a
Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take
some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use
the same name.
Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a
trademark infringement. (Which I still think was BS.. )
If
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 04:27:53 AM Andreas Pettersson wrote:
There is actually a universal drop-in made by Nick Drobchenko over at
the russian site cnc club
He calls it Features, and it a veeery flexible conversational..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOJhT69WEc
Looks interesting,
Well in respect for John that i have a dialog with i think i toned it
down quite a bit and did not
engage in a full on flame war - which i could have. ;)
One could be alot of more aggressive in this regard and contact a couple
of organisations
that goes after companies that does this in the
I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from
Mesa or is it something of their own?
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That should PCW be able to answer.. If there been a buyup of MESA cards,
that would be big buisness i imagine. ;)
// A
Belli Button skrev den 2015-02-18 11:34:
I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from
Mesa or is it something of their own?
On 18 February 2015 at 10:50, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote:
It's MESA.
Look at http://www.tormach.com/document_direct_download.html?doc_id=893 ,
Figure 6
LinuxCNC _and_ hardware stepping. The customers won't know what has hit
them :-)
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2015-02-18 12:34 GMT+02:00 Belli Button be...@iafrica.com:
I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from
Mesa or is it something of their own?
It's MESA.
Look at http://www.tormach.com/document_direct_download.html?doc_id=893 ,
Figure 6
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Ah, 5i25, kewl! Does this mean we can 'borrow' their software for our own
machines??
-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:pkm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 February 2015 12:51
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)
2015-02-18 12:34 GMT+02
Hi Erik,
You, and at least one other person, are definitely missing my point.
I'll take the blame for not expressing myself properly. I'll try again.
I am not disparaging Tormach. At all. As I've said, I believe their
switch to LinuxCNC will be good for them and for their customers. In
2015-02-18 2:24 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=s...@highlab.com:
Well, the new trajectory planner is huge. And it was done quietly,
without Tormach publicly taking credit for it, which has left people not
realizing the
The way the upgrades were described, the hardware sounded very MESA-ish,
so I wasn't surprised to see that it was. However, Tormach does seem to
be interested in conveying the impression that the software and hardware
were created by Tormach.
http://www.tormach.com/blog/pathpilot-beta-testing
On 2/18/2015 6:44 AM, Bruce Layne wrote:
Does anyone know if they
created their nice looking graphical front end, or did they subcontract
that as well? It's fine by me either way, but I am curious.
There really is no difference between the two. I subcontract to other
companies who sell the
I had/have been doing a lot of testing of the new trajectory planner of
Robs. (I didn't know or was told that he was working for Tormach - I
was upset for about 2 seconds.. :) ) I don't know how they found Rob
but wow - they sure picked the right guy to do it. The TP re-write was
huge and
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 03:00:31 AM Andreas Pettersson wrote:
Well in respect for John that i have a dialog with i think i toned it
down quite a bit and did not
engage in a full on flame war - which i could have. ;)
One could be alot of more aggressive in this regard and contact a
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:44:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)
The way the upgrades were described, the hardware sounded very MESA-ish,
so I wasn't surprised to see that it was. However, Tormach does seem to
be interested in conveying
Sam...
Remember the email list conversations that Rob and you had with the
Mach3 crew a while back?
That now puts those conversations in an entirely different light.
If you want a great discount on a slant back lathe or small mill, now
might be the right time to speak up! :-)
Dave
On
On 18.02.15 06:44, Bruce Layne wrote:
They do admit that LinuxCNC is the underlying software, but claim they
made substantial improvements, when they apparently paid for open source
code to be developed by someone else.
No, it makes no difference whether a contractor works on-site or off -
On 18 February 2015 at 19:35, Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.com
wrote:
If someone in
the LinuxCNC community develops a case of PathPilot envy, someone will
write an open source version.
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros
:-)
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If you
On 18 February 2015 at 21:56, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote:
The new TP wasn't so nesessary for a lathe, right?
Looks like Tormach is going to use LinuxCNC for their mills too.
The Tormach web-page and the video are both clearly showing mill configs.
I think that the lathe has been on
The lathe was linuxcnc from day one, it was shipped with it even.
andy pugh skrev den 2015-02-19 00:03:
On 18 February 2015 at 21:56, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote:
The new TP wasn't so nesessary for a lathe, right?
Looks like Tormach is going to use LinuxCNC for their mills too.
The
On 2/18/2015 7:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
In any event, I still think you paint them (Tormach) with much too black a
brush.
The company that deserves that is Makerbot. Another one is RAMBUS, where
when Intel, Micron and some other companies went together to create a
new computer memory
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 08:50:21 PM Gregg Eshelman wrote:
On 2/18/2015 7:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
In any event, I still think you paint them (Tormach) with much too
black a brush.
The company that deserves that is Makerbot. Another one is RAMBUS,
where when Intel, Micron and
On 02/18/2015 07:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote:
I had/have been doing a lot of testing of the new trajectory planner of
Robs. (I didn't know or was told that he was working for Tormach - I
was upset for about 2 seconds.. :) ) I don't know how they found Rob
but wow - they sure picked the right
On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
So atm i will stand by my comments, that Tormach is taking more than
they are giving. (and are a bit of asshats for doing so).
http://xkcd.com/386/
The Tormach folks have been very supportive to the open-source
community, and the changes they
On 18 February 2015 at 01:34, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps I just don't
understand but I thought that was the meaning of open source
No, Open Source only means what it says. You have access to the code and
can change it if you want. There is no requirement that it be written
That is obviously the Gremlin backplot. I thought the GPL was pretty
clear about linking to GPL'd libraries and software that could not stand
on its own without the underlying GPL'd software. What am I missing?
Len
I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 07:11:00 PM Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
So atm i will stand by my comments, that Tormach is taking more than
they are giving. (and are a bit of asshats for doing so).
http://xkcd.com/386/
The Tormach folks
Charles,
Where did you get this information and what exactly are they pushing
upstream? Thanks for the information..
Pete
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
On 2/17/2015 5:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
So atm i will stand by my
I'll say it.
Thank you Tormach !!! I really appreciate it! :-)
Dave
On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, andy pugh wrote:
On 18 February 2015 at 00:28, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
In any event, an apology from Andreas would not be out of line.
Well, as YouTube comments go it was
On 2/17/15 6:52 PM, Pete Matos wrote:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people
have given freely of their time to make linuxCNC into what it is today
INCLUDING things like User interfaces and many many other add ons that make
the program so enjoyable and
Well so far it seems that the giving back part is what Andy found out
and posted on the NYCCNC youtube comments as well.
Digging through the source code on git I really don't see any other
major contribution other than the tool path rewrite.
And would gladly want to see a list of them
On 18 February 2015 at 00:11, Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net
wrote:
That they haven't tried to tightly couple their company name with the
updates they sponsored doesn't make them asshats.
There are worse things to be:
Well it is nice that they paid for the work to be done. I do not know why
the UI maybe in its basic format would not be made available. I know a LOT
of folks have put in many many countless hours to build the basic linuxCNC
into what it is now and were not paid a dime for it. Perhaps I just
I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY people
have given freely of their time to make linuxCNC into what it is today
INCLUDING things like User interfaces and many many other add ons that make
the program so enjoyable and stable to use. They gave of it freely and
On 02/17/2015 04:36 PM, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
Well so far it seems that the giving back part is what Andy found out
and posted on the NYCCNC youtube comments as well.
Digging through the source code on git I really don't see any other
major contribution other than the tool path rewrite.
On 18 February 2015 at 00:28, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
In any event, an apology from Andreas would not be out of line.
Well, as YouTube comments go it was unusually complimentary :-)
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On 02/17/2015 06:17 PM, Pete Matos wrote:
I thought someone here built the trajectory planner? Are you saying that
Tormach built it themselves? I am curious about the UI and honestly even
a dumbed down version given back to the community would be a step in the
right direction here.
Rob
I thought someone here built the trajectory planner? Are you saying that
Tormach built it themselves? I am curious about the UI and honestly even
a dumbed down version given back to the community would be a step in the
right direction here.
Pete
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Sebastian
Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: 2015-02-18 05:07:39
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot
On 2/17/15 6:52 PM, Pete Matos wrote:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree... I feel like MANY MANY
people
have given freely
not make
money somewhere down the line, the interest will dwindle soon.
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From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: 2015-02-18 05:07:39
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot
On 2/17/15
On 17 February 2015 at 21:20, Len Shelton l...@probotix.com wrote:
I'm excited to see that Tormach is giving back to open source!
I am not sure that they are. I don't see any suggestion that the source if
PathPilot will be released.
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atp
If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
Here's a quick video announcing PathPilot from NYCCNC, an active garage
shop machinist with a big YouTube following whose channel is sponsored
by Tormach.
http://youtu.be/WqJmBEWnvpk
Start at 6:25 to get past the enthusiastic preamble if you only want to
see the PathPilot user interface.
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