Re: Moving Engagement List to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:39 PM Tobias Mueller  wrote:
> Hi,

Hey,

> On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 08:57 -0500, s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
> I don't object, but I'd like to note that Mailman 3 meant to bring a Web
> interface if that's what you're after.

My very own totally unscientific opinion is that hyperkitty is meh
while Discourse is actually quite awesome (and I’ve always said I
hated webforums prior to using Discourse). I had a look at the
discussion over at the gtk-devel mailing list and I found some more
scientific evidence in
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2019-February/msg00022.html

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Re: Moving Engagement List to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 2:57 PM  wrote:
> If you have no objection, say nothing and I'll work on moving us out as
> soon as GTK gets finished.  I'll move the rest of the engagement like
> lists that I manage as well.

Awesome. Will subscriptions be moved automatically? Can we use our
GNOME account to log in to the Discourse instance?

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Re: GNOME conferences Youtube channels

2018-09-20 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:30 AM Ismael Olea  wrote:
> Hi:

Hey,

The GUADEC channel is not managed by the engagement team but by a few
people behind yout...@guadec.org (CCed).

> I'm very happy with how talks' videos has been published and tagged
> I can see appropriate to have separate channels for GNOME promotion
> (as now) and a different one for video talks.

Thanks. The bulk of the work was done with a new tool I wrote that
consumes the schedule XML file and does the upload with the
appropriate metadata:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/afranke/conference-to-youtube

I still have work to do on it for it to be more widely usable, which
is why I haven’t advertised it yet, but the aim is to make it usable
for any conference.

> I'm not familiar with video recording practises with LAS GNOME and
> GNOME Asia, but in any case would be great to have all been recorded
> and published too.

We try but it’s not always possible, for logistical or financial reasons.

> In this sense, maintaining several conference channels is, to me,
> suboptimal. I think all conference talks published in the same channel
> is nice and good for the better dissemination of contents and image
> marketing/engagement.

I disagree.

> When managing Youtube channels I've found channels
> _are_not_mergeable_, so any reorganization implies removing old
> channels, uploading again the old contents and losing all related
> data, counters and subscriptions.

Yes, channels are not mergeable, not splittable either, and videos
cannot be transferred across channels.

> So I'm proposing to consider renaming the GUADEC Youtube channel
> (AFAIK the only conference channel active)

LAS has a channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCraw5o0ELQgGcPqsnXOxUpw
GNOME.Asia has one too but it’s not been used recently:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4xC9dsLPn2RbwQD01GJXRw

> to something like «GNOME Conferences» or similar (GNOME Talks?)
> suitable to host and publish talks of any technical talks, specially the
> ones from the main conferences. I think the required tasks will be just 
> channel
> rebranding.

I actually think this is a bad idea, precisely because of branding. We
can associate channel with GNOME by other means, but keeping them
separate allows each conference to use their own identity and that’s a
good thing. It also make it easier to find relevant content.

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Re: Git access for translators

2018-09-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:30 AM Claude Paroz  wrote:

> However, there are some cases where Damned Lies is not yet able to push
> *new* translations.
>

Another case that you forgot about and which I also forgot about so far
when replying to this topic is figures. We don’t have a way to upload
images from DL, but that would be awesome to have! Bonus points if one can
have the corresponding string translated in the process.


> Note that there are more and more modules also using LINGUAS files for
> docs, so this issue should be less important in the future. If the
> release-notes build could be changed to use a LINGUAS file, it would be
> great too.
>

Could Damned lies detect when that is the case and display a warning for
those where it can not add the new translation? I thought all documentation
were affected but if that’s not the case then I’ll start committing from DL
for docs too when possible.

>
> > Also, it would be good to know if merge requests would be appropriate for
> > this, instead of pure git access.
>
> It's a bit heavier than direct pushes, but IMHO it can be acceptable.
>

Agreed although I’d lean more on the “meh” side.

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Re: GNOME User Groups

2018-08-13 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:21 AM Michael Hall  wrote:
> Hello Engagement Team,

Hi,

> With the next release of GNOME fast approaching, I wanted to extend an
> invitation to use https://gettogeter.community/ as a way to grow the
> local GNOME communities around the world, and bring them together to
> celebrate the release.

(Careful, there was a typo here: it’s https://gettogether.community/ with an h)

Looks good. I guess the plan would be to use this instead of the usual
wiki pages. In that case, a bit of wiki gardening to reflect that
direction would be a good idea.

The privacy policy mentions possible collection of identifying data,
but nothing about being able to get them erased. I *think* the website
is not compliant with GDPR. What do you reckon?

> GetTogether is a free and open source group event hosting platform that
> was written with GNOME in mind, based on BoFs from GUADEC 2017. The
> instance on https://gettogether.community/ is free for anybody to use,
> and making it available to GNOME is my way of giving back to the project.

I am thankful for that! I want to encourage people around me to use
it, but lack of localization is an issue. Is it on your roadmap?

The service also looks like something the GNOME Foundation could more
actively support. Even if it’s not GNOME branded (and I think it
should remain so), it helps us with our mission. If the cost of
running that service starts to be a problem for you, consider reaching
out to the board of directors about it.

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Re: Feedback Needed | GNOME-Related Small Event Ideas and Resources

2018-04-11 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez <
nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Alexandre Franke <afra...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Two more things I noticed:
>> * There is no notion of timeframe. It would be good to set
>> (reasonable) expectations without necessarily making them a hard
>> requirement.
>>
>
> Can you please explain this further -- what would the timeline be for?
>

As the ones processing requests, I’m sure you need a bit of time to review
them and get back to people making the requests. Would you say asking for
funds on the day of the event is fine? I suppose it’s not, and in that case
what are your expectations?

As a concrete example, I am going to make a request for a social event to
occur during the Fractal hackfest sometime between May 10th and 13th. When
would you say would be a reasonable deadline for me?


> * It says “Total budget requested in USD” but the board agreed that
>> foundation members shouldn’t have to take the hit for fluctuations in
>> conversion rates, and other currencies are supported by the tools we
>> use for reimbursement. Therefore the approved amount should be in the
>> currency preferred by the requester.
>>
>
> Good point. I changed the language in two places (in bold) to help with
> this:
>
> How much can I request?
>> Each request will be processed on a case-by-case basis, so please tell us
>> how much you think you'll need and why. To set expectations, we hope most
>> event organizers will *request under the local currency equivalent of ~
>> $100 USD*, since our funds are limited, but we will consider each
>> request.
>
>
> AND
>
>
> How do I request funds?
>> Please include:
>> - Information about the event like what the event is, why it's
>> GNOME-related and how it will benefit the community, and when the event
>> will happen
>> - How many attendees are estimated to attend
>> - What the budget will be used for (e.g. snacks and drinks)
>> - *Total budget requested in local currency*
>
>
> Let me know if you have suggestions for alternate wording, or if you see
> other places where we should revise.
>

I would suggest “preferred currency” rather than “local”, but otherwise
this looks good.

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Re: Feedback Needed | GNOME-Related Small Event Ideas and Resources

2018-04-06 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Nuritzi Sanchez
<nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
> Here's the new text:
>
> How much can I request?
> Each request will be processed on a case-by-case basis, so please tell us
> how much you think you'll need and why. To set expectations, we hope most
> event organizers will request under $100 USD, since our funds are limited,
> but we will consider each request.
>
> The amount you request should depend on the number of people attending, and
> how much things cost in your geographic region. For example, it might cost
> $10 for snacks for 10 people in Indonesia, but $30 in the US.

Thank you, that is way better.

> Does anyone have any additional suggestions for the budget section or any
> other part of the small events page?

Two more things I noticed:
* There is no notion of timeframe. It would be good to set
(reasonable) expectations without necessarily making them a hard
requirement.
* It says “Total budget requested in USD” but the board agreed that
foundation members shouldn’t have to take the hit for fluctuations in
conversion rates, and other currencies are supported by the tools we
use for reimbursement. Therefore the approved amount should be in the
currency preferred by the requester.

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Re: Reminder | GNOME Engagement Meeting Tuesday April 3rd

2018-04-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Alexandre Franke <afra...@gnome.org> wrote:
> It would be extremely useful to send out something to the list as a
> result of each meeting, either the minutes themselves or a link to the
> wiki page with them.

As an argument in favor of full minutes rather than links, if they had
been sent to the list for the meeting of March 27th, I would have seen
the below earlier and replied immediately by mail.

> Can't figure out who has access to add new people to Wordpress.
> Sri, Nuritzi, Oliver do not. Maybe Tom does?

I do, as well as Allan, and 8 other people. For this kind of request
it’s best not to target a specific individual who might not be
available at that time though. I would advise to ask on this list, on
the engagement channel or open a ticket against the website on the
relevant bugtracker (still bugzilla at the moment, product:website).

Who needs what?

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Re: Reminder | GNOME Engagement Meeting Tuesday April 3rd

2018-04-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi,

The recipient of your mail appears as “marketing-list
<engagement-list@gnome.org>”. Can you look into renaming it in your
contact list to avoid confusion?

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez
<nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:

You told me before that you intended to use your GNOME email address
to avoid confusion. This is a reminder of that. You may want to look
into configuring your mail client differently to achieve that.

> The proposed agenda is below and you can find the editable version here:

I couldn’t find the agenda “below”.

> If you're curious, you can take a look at notes from our previous meetings
> here: EngagementTeam Meetings [4].

It would be extremely useful to send out something to the list as a
result of each meeting, either the minutes themselves or a link to the
wiki page with them. This was happening in the past but it seems it
stopped around two years ago when someone else took over meeting
organization.

Also, why does the pad keep a copy of past minutes? If they have been
moved to the wiki as they should, it would be beneficial to remove
them from the pad.

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Re: Feedback Needed | GNOME-Related Small Event Ideas and Resources

2018-04-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:19 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez
<nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi,

> Please take a look at the wiki page and let me know if you have any
> questions or comments about it. I'd love to give this list a chance to send
> feedback before we send it to foundation-list. I'll also add this page to
> tomorrow's Engagement team agenda in case anyone has further thoughts then.

I already expressed this concern earlier when this was discussed
amongst the board and was told this would be taken into account, but I
see this hasn’t been addressed so I’m raising it again.

The amount of $50 can be a good indication of what organizers should
aim for, but having already organized a number of small events I can
tell this doesn’t work that well. Let’s take an example to illustrate
this: I’m organizing a hackfest next month so I’m looking at having a
social event for attendees. The page suggests buying pizzas and
drinks, which sounds like a good plan. How far along can $50 get me? A
look at menus show me that it’ll be over $10 per person. I expect
something between 8 and 15 attendees, so this allocation will not be
enough. Even taking a less ambitious goal with a past example of a
release party, I paid a round of drinks but that wasn’t enough to
cover all of it. So the threshold probably should be tied to the
number of attendees.

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Re: No more release notes for me

2018-03-02 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 6:16 AM, Link Dupont <l...@sub-pop.net> wrote:

> Could we migrate the release-notes repo to a project under gitlab? That
> might
> make collaboration on them easier for the team.
>

I suggest not making that move not that we’re in the middle of translations
and that the notes for this release are done anyway. As the plan is to
migrate all of the remaining modules in the coming months, it should be on
Gitlab for the next release.

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Re: GUADEC 2007 videos

2017-12-18 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
> I'd say get "18" as that seems to be the original.

Indeed, I missed that one when reading the list. I download 18+140 and
uploaded all three to the GUADEC channel.

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Re: GUADEC 2007 videos

2017-12-18 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
>> > I still have a couple of videos that seem to have been stuck in my
>> > YouTube account for one reason or another:
>> > https://youtu.be/YYvdxUEfFYA
>> > https://youtu.be/-6bcKbCnzE8
>> > https://youtu.be/xyYC3r3sUoU
>> >
>> > Can you download and reupload those as well?
[…]
> The "Download as MP4" contextual menu item will download files that are
> about 100 megs in size. Is that better than what you were able to
> download?

I had not tried yet and not that I did I see that these the first one
is not available. Can you check whether it has a different visibility
than the other ones?

Here are the available formats for the second one:
format code  extension  resolution note
139  m4aaudio only DASH audio   50k , m4a_dash
container, mp4a.40.5@ 48k (22050Hz), 13.72MiB
140  m4aaudio only DASH audio  130k , m4a_dash
container, mp4a.40.2@128k (44100Hz), 36.65MiB
160  mp4192x144DASH video  120k , avc1.4d400c,
15fps, video only, 32.45MiB
133  mp4320x240DASH video  263k , avc1.4d400d,
25fps, video only, 72.04MiB
17   3gp176x144small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2@ 24k
36   3gp320x240small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2
18   mp4384x288small , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k
43   webm   640x360medium , vp8.0, vorbis@128k (best)

So I could get 43 (a 60MB file) which seems transcoded or 133+140
(110MB) which is a smaller resolution. Which one do you suggest I
should get?

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Re: GUADEC 2007 videos

2017-12-16 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
> Hey,

Bonjour !

> Reviving the thread.

Good idea.

> I still have a couple of videos that seem to have been stuck in my
> YouTube account for one reason or another:
> https://youtu.be/YYvdxUEfFYA
> https://youtu.be/-6bcKbCnzE8
> https://youtu.be/xyYC3r3sUoU
>
> Can you download and reupload those as well?

Yeah, we can do that. I got access to our account as well in the
meantime, so I’ll give a hand. Do you know if I can get a better
format than what I’d get from whatever youtube-dl will give as “best”?
I.e. if you login to your channel, do you have access to a better, non
reencoded version?

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Re: [Engagement] Relaying out bug fixes news via social media

2017-11-13 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
>> We did have something that was called the [commit
>> digest](https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/), a weekly blog post
>> highlighting the most interesting code changes, and it was good.
>> That’s what you should aim at. Twitter or blog posts doesn’t really
>> matter, but the curation aspect is key to make it good. Unfortunately,
>> Frédéric Peters was the only one putting in the time that requires and
>> after quite a while he moved to other things.
>
>
> What made it good?  What was the work involved around it?

It was good because:
* it was once a week, that’s often enough to keep informed but not too
much so one manages to keep up with the amount of info
* it was a one line summary for what could be several bug reports
closed, or a huge amount of commits
* that summary was high level and human readable

The work involved reading commits-list, picking interesting bits
manually and writing a good summary.

As a side note, the fact it was on a blog meant there was an RSS feed
and people could follow along without being on one of those silos… I
get that Twitter, Facebook and co are a way to reach out to people
outside our community, but there are also good reasons for people not
to be on there and we should cater to them as well, so hopefully
whatever you implement addresses this.

> How about we do this as the first step then? That would give the curated
> content, and also the ability for newcomers to share something.  It should
> address most of your concerns, yes?

I don’t really get what “this” is in this context.

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Re: [Engagement] Relaying out bug fixes news via social media

2017-11-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Umang Jain <mailumangj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,

Hello,

I apologize in advance for sounding like a buzzkill, but I do not
share the enthusiasm about this. I do agree with the general idea,
just not the proposed form.

> We have come up with an idea in the area of social media outreach and
> it would be glad if you can share your views on it. The idea is to
> relay news out in the social media whenever any bug/issue is fixed via
> dedicated GNOME Bugs' Social Media Channels (thereafter referred as
> SMC).

With some curation? Because otherwise I really don’t see any value in
this and people that want to see everything should just subscribe to
commits-list.

> GNOME Bugs' SMC are not created yet and will be separate from main
> GNOME handles. You can take a look at LibreOffice's bug channel [1].
> [1] https://twitter.com/LibreOfficeBugs

That LO channel is noisy. I would take it as an example of what not to aim for.

> Although, based on the severity of the bug/issue, the main GNOME
> handle can retweet/relay the link on it's own account. The idea is to
> keep a separate bug SMC is:
>
> * Not to make main GNOME handle very noisy
> * To have automated GNOME bugs SMC

Please don’t make it automatic. That’s a sure way to make it noisy and
uninteresting.

> I think that most of us agree that social media is the fastest way to
> get information out.

Can we also agree that social media are flooded with content and that
people waste a lot of time on them skimming through it to find

> Therefore, as far as code development is
> concerned, it takes a while till the information is actually relayed
> out. Mostly, until someone blogs about it and then pick up by other
> blogs and so on..

You need to find balance between the current lack of communication and
the overwhelming flood of an automated feed.

> We can get fast here and be more verbose about the work that goes into
> everyday. In addition to that, we want it to be automated; similar to
> [1]

Again, this is a bad idea.

We did have something that was called the [commit
digest](https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/), a weekly blog post
highlighting the most interesting code changes, and it was good.
That’s what you should aim at. Twitter or blog posts doesn’t really
matter, but the curation aspect is key to make it good. Unfortunately,
Frédéric Peters was the only one putting in the time that requires and
after quite a while he moved to other things.

> Now comes the most interesting part. It would be really great if we
> can mention "Newcomers" and their internet handle in the bug SMC link;
> That should really make them feel special as they can show to the
> world that they have done something great and brag!

Sure, that is a good idea.

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Re: testing a new process for social media

2017-11-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> Carlos Soriano was kind enough to create
> http://gitab.gnome.org/GNOME/engagement, and so you can now create issues
> for things like we want to advertise.  As a test, I have put in November Bug
> Squash Month - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/engagement/issues/1.
>
> This way we have some way to track the things that need to be done and close
> them out easily when complete.

Cool. How does that work exactly? You seem to imply that we will keep
a single issue for the whole Bug Squash Month campaign. How do we e.g.
plan tweets that need to be sent out or track those that have been? An
issue in a bugtracker is supposed to be a single task and one closes
it when they’re done with it, which allows progress to be tracked.

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Re: Project management software

2017-10-03 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> I'd like to start moving away from the wiki for our project management and
> move to something that is focused on team based things.  I did some
> evaluation, and I'd like to propose fluxday.io.  It is very similar to what
> we are using at work, which is dapulse which I've been digging a lot.  I
> just feel that what we have is clunky and hard to use and is not efficient.
> Tell me what you guys think?

Like I always say to my customers when they come to me and ask me for
this or that tool: what is the problem you are trying to solve?
“Project management” is not an acceptable answer. ☺ I’m never opposed
to any tool (software license and privacy are not an issue here since
it’s Free and we would host our instance) but one should use a tool
because it is the right one for their task at hand, not because it
looks cool.

Same logic applies to kanban boards (someone recently said we should
use gitlab because it has kanban boards).

> I'd like to try to spin up a docker instance somewhere and see if we can
> test it.

Sure, testing is always good.

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Re: 3.26 release marketing - outstanding tasks

2017-09-13 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Link Dupont <l...@sub-pop.net> wrote:
> I wonder if we could take a more systematic approach to the screenshots in
> general. There are discrepancies between screenshots shown in the shell and
> other minor preferences that differ from the shipped GNOME defaults.
>
> Is Continuous up to the task of being used for screenshots? Could some even be
> automatically taken by injecting keypress events?

We discussed the topic of [screenshot
automation](https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2014/BOFs/ScreenshotAutomation)
a while ago. It comes up again every now and then, but sadly not much
progress has been made. We had a prototype set up by Vadim that was
able to provide a series of shots in any language, but it never went
any further and I can’t seem to find the link to the prototype. It
used Dogtail.

If we ever get this, it could be used for release notes as well. As a
bonus, all release note translations would at least have the
screenshots translated, which was the main motivation to do it in the
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Re: Engagement/TargetedEvents

2017-08-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Biraj Karmakar <brne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi I can help with that if you guide me.

Awesome. Let’s start with the first one:

>> ACTION: go through the list of events at
>> https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/TargetedEvents/2017 and make sure
>> the status (attended, didn’t attend) is accurate

For those that don’t have “attended” or “didn’t attend” yet,
investigate to find out what happened and update the status. You can
find information on the event subpage, or by googling, or by asking
people who were supposed to go.

Example: I asked Sri and he confirmed he went to Open Source bridge,
so you can update that line.

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Engagement/TargetedEvents

2017-08-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hello!

This is a bit of a rant[^1] but more importantly a call to fix a
problem that appeared recently.

Let me start by commending the engagement team for the work that’s
been done with the targeted events initiative. It is awesome to see
coordination happening around that and how we can be more effective by
making such strategic decisions.

However, İ'm a bit sad about the wiki situation which is a bit of a
mess. The main issue is that we already had the Events namespace and
it is not being updated as part of the initiative. Whenever we do
attend an event listed on the TargetedEvent main page, it should be
added to the Events web page.

* Engagement/TargetedEvents is difficult to get to by browsing links
from the home page (and that is fine). It is a work document and not
something we necessarily need to expose to the outside world more than
it currently is.
* Events is really easy to find (linked to from the Home page) and
serves as our public archive. We should aim to make it comprehensive
and accurate. It serves many purposes, like showing off how active we
were, documenting what we actually did (handy when you write things
such as the annual report) and have a reference for organizing other
events later.

Some time ago there was a huge amount of work to make the wiki tidy
and this reorganization (led by Allan if memory serves me well)
resulted amongst other things in the current form of the Home page.
Let’s try and keep the wiki in a good shape!

We need people to step up and volunteer with the following action items:

ACTION: go through the list of events at
https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/TargetedEvents/2017 and make sure
the status (attended, didn’t attend) is accurate
ACTION: go through the list of events at
https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/TargetedEvents/2017 and make sure
the ones e attended are reported back to https://wiki.gnome.org/Events
ACTION: for each event of
https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/TargetedEvents/2017 that has a
subpage in the TargetedEvents namespace (e.g.
https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/TargetedEvents/2017/OpenSourceBridge),
move the page to the Events namespace if appropriate (with wiki
redirection directive)

This isn’t terribly complicated and mostly requires time to do it.
Don’t let things like “I don’t know how to create a redirection” stop
you, people can help you on the engagement channel.

Cheers,


[^1]: well since I finally got my “old fart” sticker at GUADEC, I
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Re: [guadec-list] 20th Birthday Logo | Feedback needed

2017-06-28 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:35 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez
<nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,

Hey,

> 20th birthday logos [1].
[…]
> [1] https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0BxT3JgrBDcz2Z3UwT3p6REh1S0U

Can you please use our owncloud for GNOME related assets?

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Re: Ubuntu desktop to GNOME meeting

2017-04-19 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Olav Vitters <ovitt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,

Hey,

> There was a public IRC meeting where Ubuntu desktop team discussed the
> switch to GNOME. It'll be followed by many more meetings.

Thanks for attending and sharing that with us!

> Items discussed (rough minutes!): […]

These all look like technical issues/questions and I don’t think the
engagement team is the right place to discuss them. desktop-devel-list
seems more appropriate, do you mind reposting that there?

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Re: System76 Reporting for Duty

2017-04-07 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:58 PM Ryan Sipes <r...@system76.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys and Gals!
>>
>
Hi and welcome!

Welcome :)  You are welcome to join our community meetings on Fridays at
> 17:00 UTC if convenient, that will be your opportunity to introduce
> yourself and of course an opportunity to also introduce ourselves.
>

Not today though, Nuritzi sent an email to postpone to next week. Also the
time has been switched to 16UTC (because of DST).

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Re: readthedocs CFPs ends today

2017-02-10 Thread Alexandre Franke
Forwarding to our docs team.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> So apparently today is the last day for CFP for readthedocs in Portland.  Do
> we have anything we want to talk about in regards to that?
>
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Re: Hello && About the Talk on GNOME Localization in AB'17 Conference

2017-02-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Bastian Ilso <hougaard.jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,

Hey,

> Did we manage to make a move on this? I see the date is february the 8th,
> which was yesterday.

What kind of move exactly? As I said in the email you quoted, I added
it to the calendar as requested. There was a bit of an issue with
timezones, we discussed these details on IRC.

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Re: Hello && About the Talk on GNOME Localization in AB'17 Conference

2017-02-03 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Muhammet Kara <muhamm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have also linked the page from the main "Events" page, but couldn't find a
> way to add it to the community calendar.

I just added it with the details on the wiki. Please check the time is correct.

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Re: Shall we restart our engagement meetings?

2017-01-27 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> It is all in UTC.  You'll have to convert it yourself.  It would be a nice
> feature if it did, right? :-)

https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/issues/158

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Re: Suggestion: adding a custom "button" class to the wiki

2016-10-27 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Laurent Pointecouteau
<laurent.pointecout...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, as far as I understand it, the wiki administrators need to edit the
> global MoinMoin CSS files to add a custom class for the users to include it
> in the pages. A normal user such as me is not able to freely edit the style
> of a page.
>
> Note that Carlos Soriano has started to work on a template for the Apps wiki
> pages (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/TemplateFancy) and he told me on IRC that
> he would like to replace it by a more elegant CSS-based template. That could
> be something we could talk about with any interested MoinMoin administrator.

The repo with the Moinmoin customization is at
https://git.gnome.org/browse/static-web/ so you could develop it on
your own instance and push it to this repo when you're done.

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Re: Suggestion: adding a custom "button" class to the wiki

2016-10-27 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Laurent Pointecouteau
<laurent.pointecout...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,

Hey,

> I've tried to add a big, blue, fancy "Get our app!" button on the Games wiki
> page (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Games/), but I've found that that MoinMoin
> doesn't allow for much visual tweaking from the page's wikicode. What I've
> found is that it is possible to add custom CSS classes for the users to put
> inside the pages. (https://moinmo.in/HelpOnThemes) So, what do you think of
> a `button` CSS class, to allow wiki editors to easily add clickable buttons,
> kind of like what Boostrap does?

I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for to be honest. This
seems like it could be useful, so why don't you just go ahead and do
it? Do you need us to do something first?

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New initiative proposal: October is the month we squash bugs

2016-09-24 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi,

I've been meaning to push this for a while, but now seems to be the right time.

# Why October?

First of all because I thought it would be appropriate to *squash*
things on halloween season. Apart from it making me giggle, I see a
marketing opportunity here. [0]

But more importantly the fact that it's right after the release
actually makes it a good time to test stuff. With a fresh version out
the door it's the best moment to check if old bug reports are still
relevant, and doing it at the beginning of a development cycle ensures
maintainers get a clearer picture of what needs to be done.


# What is it?

A two part event with the goal of cleaning up our bug tracker.

## Online

The GNOME community tries to focus on bug triaging for a month. We can
organize several sessions at specific time and dates to do it together
for a few hours, but we can also do it individually on our own time.

Of course we welcome newcomers and help them get involved.

## In real life

We organize gatherings or workshops (known as bug squashing parties)
where local free software community members are taught how to triage
bugs.


# Feedback welcome

What do you people say? Do you think we should do it?


[0] So who's gonna draw us a pumpkin GNOME foot? :-)

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Re: #Engagemenet | Meeting Notes Friday Sept 16 2016

2016-09-19 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Rares Visalom <rares.visa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't know that. We were thinking whether or not it would be cheaper to
> print those here or getting those shipped to us. It was just an idea.

What are "those"? Do you already know what kind of stickers you want,
or is it just that you want GNOME stickers? Do you have a deadline?

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Re: Freeze break request, Keyboard Settings

2016-09-08 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
> Hey,

Hi,

> The redesigned Keyboard Settings landed shortly before GUADEC, and I
> had hoped that there would be less to fix up after the initial big
> commit so that we would be entering the code freeze in a good state.
>
> The following bug has a number of patches:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769314

Seems important and apparently there would only be one string: 1/2 from i18n.

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Re: Ideas for gnome.org

2016-09-08 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez
<nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
> Provide a place for contributors to organize themselves

I don't really see that in the website. To me that's the wiki. Where
do you see that happening on the website?

> Keep the community updated on important updates

I'd say our news updates are more external. Our main internal news
channels are the planet and foundation-list.

> Access important information about the Foundation or Project

foundation.gnome.org redirects to gnome.org/foundation
Was it ever a separate website? If so, what was the rationale behind the move?

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Re: Ideas for gnome.org

2016-09-06 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Might be nice to think about including those, certainly. It somewhat depends
> on the overall design and not letting it get too cluttered.

Sure, I was just throwing something I'd like to see that will
hopefully be taken into account when someone does the new design.

> My impression is that very few people edit pages on
> gnome.org currently, and the content doesn't change all that often.

That's something I didn't take into account and you're probably right about it.

> • Translations - we haven't got them working for the current website - how
> much work would it be to get them working? Would it be easier for a
> different setup?

You mentionned the flatpak website earlier: is it translatable?

Translations are probably easier to setup with any static generator
than with Wordpress, as we have many tools that deal with the common
formats used in such cases (Markdown and HTML mostly).

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Re: Ideas for gnome.org

2016-09-05 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:43 PM,  <a...@gnome.org> wrote:
> Hi all,

Hey,

> A GNOME blog could exist as part of the existing gnome.org Wordpress site,
> as a rebranded news section. However, it could also be moved out to a
> separate domain of its own (such as blog.gnome.org), hosted as part of the
> blogs.gnome.org site (perhaps with a feed of articles shown on the gnome.org
> home page).

That made think of something: why don't we include more content from
our various feeds into our Web site? For now we only have the three
latest news items on the homepage, but we could have the latest
headlines from the planet (just the titles, not the article contents)
and tweets from our various handles. That would make it more dynamic
and engage the audiance.

> This got me wondering: if the blog part of the site was moved elsewhere,
> would there be any reason to continue using Wordpress for gnome.org?! With
> the blogging part being taken care of by a separate site, maybe we could go
> with  more minimal solution for gnome.org. Having experienced this type of
> website setup for flatpak.org, I have to say that it's a really nice way to
> work, and it could make it easier to do a redesign of the website.

I've been a huge proponent of static site generators and the likes for
the last ten years, but you may want to think twice about doing such a
migration.

Editing with Wordpress is quite easy: you log in to a Web interface,
get a text area to write in, and then you click a button to publish.
Many of the static engines require more technical knowledge and setup,
often requiring cloning and pushing to a git clone. That probably will
have an impact if you want to get newcomers to contribute. Wordpress
also has an ACL implementation that allows roles to be attributed and
permission to be more granular than just can or cannot publish stuff.
Currently if you have access to one of our git repositories, you have
access to all of them.

Then there's the question of the migration path. Many engines have
import machinery so that should be alright. We need to make sure it
works though. We also need to pay attention to existing URL so that we
don't break anything.

> Obviously these are just random ideas and need a lot more thought. Maybe
> they're interesting though?!

They are indeed. ☺

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Re: Closing the GNOME BitPay account

2016-08-22 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Tobias Mueller <mue...@cryptobitch.de> wrote:
> Hi.

Hello,

> Do you have details?
> I could only find https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf which
> does not indicate that "virtual currency" should be treated differently
> than "real currency".
> But I wonder why you think any of this is applicable at all, because
> the Foundation neither accepts, holds, nor spends any
> bitcoins.  The foundation receives USD from Bitpay.

The issue has nothing to do with currencies. The problem is that as a
501(c)(3) we need to know where our donations come from, and bitcoin's
anonymity prevents us from knowing that.

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What can I do for GNOME?

2016-07-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi,

During last GUADEC I spent some time chatting with Lasse Schuirmann
about outreach and onboarding. Late at night on a couch we were
looking at "whatcanido" websites and I bought whatcanidoforgnome.org
where Lasse deployed a customized instance of the engine that's been
created for Fedora [0].

Now the website works, but as far as I'm aware it's not been pushed as
part of our outreach effort. Renewal time for the domain is soon
coming so I have a simple question with two possible choices: what do
I do with it?
 * We don't care, let it expire.
 * We want to keep it, offer to transfer it to the foundation (and
then the board has to vote if they actually want to take it).

[0] https://github.com/fedora-infra/asknot-ng/

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Re: GNOME | Submit Your Engagement Team Budget Requests

2016-05-06 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> 2) budget for an events box.  We need a banner for the U.S. for conferences

Can you elaborate on that? Do you just want to buy a banner or is
there something else needed (as you mention the box)? There's still a
box in the US, right?

> 3) budget for stickers and other accessories.

Please detail this one too. Also instead of just asking "$200 for
stickers", please specify how many stickers you would want to get
printed. We may be able to provide you with stickers directly instead
of giving you money to pay for them.


This applies to any request: try to get into details of what you would
like to get, because just asking for a given amount makes it difficult
to decide whether it's worth paying for it.
https://blogs.gnome.org/zana/2015/11/21/ways-to-help-the-board-help-you/
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Re: Friends of GNOME - round three!

2016-04-26 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Alexandre Franke <afra...@gnome.org> wrote:
> I think we indeed need someone with experience
> with that to give us info
[…]
> we thus miss opportunities.

Speaking of missed opportunities, it seems that Red Hat does offer
matching gifts to its US employees for any 501(c)(3) on donations
between $50 and $750.
https://doublethedonation.com/forms/red-hat.pdf
While this document is hosted on a third party website, someone from
Red hat confirmed it to me. The wikipedia page also links to a search
engine that will tell you if a company does offer that, and Red hat
(as well as Google) appear there (with the specifics of their
programmes).

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Re: Friends of GNOME - round three!

2016-04-26 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Rosanna Yuen <z...@gnome.org> wrote:
> I have never done this myself; maybe someone who has employee matching at
> their company could get the details?

Neither have I, and I think we indeed need someone with experience
with that to give us info, but in the meantime we can read
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Matching_Gifts

Side note: volunteer time can also be matched by employers, The
employee tells them how much time they spent working as a volunteer
for an organisation and the company makes a money donation equivalent
to a salary for that time. We've had at least one person doing that
for the last two GUADEC. We should probably advertise that as well as
some people might not be aware of such programs and we thus miss
opportunities.

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Re: Mail from FSFE's "I love free software" day

2016-03-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Rosanna Yuen <z...@gnome.org> wrote:
> Hi,

Hello,

> We received a few postcards in the mail.  Photo attached.  Any thoughts as
> to whether we should make a public thank you?  Maybe something simple via
> social media?

Oh that's nice! Are these signed?

Also if we get a chance, we should tell FSFE about the correct way to
spell GNOME.

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Re: Some branding guidelines and historical info lost in migration

2016-02-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I honestly can't think of any cases where it would be desirable to use
> Bitstream Vera Sans with the GNOME logo. It won't look particularly
> consistent or good. The GNOME project itself doesn't use Bitstream Vera Sans
> - Cantarell is our font - so I don't know why we'd suggest that others
> should.

Fair enough. Maybe we should add a recommendation to use Cantarell?

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Re: Some branding guidelines and historical info lost in migration

2016-02-13 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Allan Day <a...@gnome.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why the information on the origin of the logo type
> is useful to someone using our logos. People shouldn't be modifying the
> "GNOME" below the logo, and there's no requirement to use Bitstream Vera
> Sans with the logo or wordmark.

I think the info about which font we used as a base is relevant for
people who want to use the logo (with wordmark) and then write
something that looks consistent with by using the same(ish) font. In
this case, it's also important to mention we don't use the font as it
is because people could be mislead then and just write GNOME
themselves and think they reached the same result as if they were
using the logo.

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Re: Updating user groups

2016-01-21 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> While going through the various teams as part of creating the infographic, I
> ran into this one https://wiki.gnome.org/UserGroups
>
> Which seems to have a lot of stale data.  I have asked the folks on
> gnome-in-list to look at it for India, but there are plenty of other
> countries here.  We also don't have one for the U.S.? :-)

Although our website hasn't been updated for a while, the GNOME-FR
info on this page is still valid.

The current website, its state, and the work on the responsive design
for gnome.org make me yearn again for an easy and centralized way to
make local GUG websites.

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Re: Statement of support for the SFC's campaign

2016-01-12 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Rosanna Yuen <z...@gnome.org> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,

Hey,

> The deadline for their campaign is coming soon.  At this point, speed is
> paramount.  Can we have a deadline for posting this please?

How does 50 minutes ago sound? ;-)

(Some of us gathered on IRC and got this finished and published)

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Re: Statement of support for the SFC's campaign

2016-01-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:34 PM, Jeff F. T. <nekoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seemed okay/nice-to-have

I agree with that, it gave a bit of context and I think we should keep it.

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Re: Kicking off some questions for the 2015 sysadmin sponsorship brochure (or fundraising campaign)

2015-12-17 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Cosimo Cecchi <cosimo.cec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my opinion, asking for a specific amount of money almost always works
> better than asking for an unbounded amount.

Totally agree.

> Of course I agree that the more we get, the better it is; perhaps a good way
> to formulate this would be to borrow from crowdfunding and use the concept
> of "stretch goal"?

Yep. That also means that we should formulate initial goals. It could
be something as simple as "keep the infrastructure running for two
years".

We want to avoid raising funds for a topic without showing attaching
something that feels concrete to the audience. "Implementing the
following list of security features" would probably work better than
the "raising funds for security" campaign we had. From a management
perspective once the target is reached as well, because then we have a
more precise notion of what we want to do with the funds.

> Not sure if it really applies to a field that's almost by design in
> "response mode" like sysadmin though.

I'm sure we can find a way to express it that feels like a goal to reach.

> Relatedly, do you/Andrea see the sysadmin work (and expenses) increasing or
> decreasing in the medium term?
> Are there any medium or large projects that we would do if we had funds or
> resources?

https://www.dragonsreach.it/2015/12/02/three-years-and-counting/ has a
few items, like implementing single sign-on.

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Re: Problems about Apps/Template and Projects/Template

2015-12-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Christian Hergert <christ...@hergert.me> wrote:
> I also find MoinMoin itself to be incredibly lacking.

That seems to be a widespread opinion. Can we put words on what it is
we dislike that much about MoinMoin? That would probably help finding
an alternative.

> My personal
> preference would be for us to migrate our wiki to something that will be
> well supported for the next 10-15 years. Which likely means wiki
> software written/maintained by wikimedia... But this is a substantial
> amount of work.

Mediawiki is an awesome engine… if you're building an encyclopedia.
For anything else, it's not really that great.

Before we think about switching to anything, maybe we should take some
time to formalize what we're looking for?

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Re: I need a logo :)

2015-11-18 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The "logo" doesn't have to be graphical. For GUADEC we just use a
> wordmark, which is paired each year with the skyline of the city.

Indeed, although it does  look a bit bland next to the GNOME.Asia one
in the sponsorship brochure that was done recently for instance.

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Re: GNOME Annual Report | Status Update - Layout Complete

2015-09-21 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Andreas Nilsson <li...@andreasn.se> wrote:
> Hi!

Hej,

> Here is the final version of the layout for the annual report.
> Please double check everything is correct with regards to page numbers,
> paragraphs, margins, credits etc.

I guess that means it's too late for content changes, but just in case
it's not, I'd add the locations for the events in "Other conferences"
on page 13:
"staffed a booth at Fosdem (Brussels, Belgium), JDLL (Lyon, France),
and FSCONS (Gothenburg, Sweden). We also sent
representatives to SXSW (Austin, Texas), DebConf14 (Portland, Oregan,
and FOSSASIA (Phnom Penh, Cambodia)."

Also I don't see why FOSDEM isn't spelled in caps here.

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Re: Some press releases needing research writing

2015-05-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 It's tax season in France, and my paperwork only mentions Charities
 based in France. Which is why I'm asking that.

Have you actually RTFM? :-)

The notice for form 2042 (income tax, which I assume is the one
you're filling in) has a paragraph about European entities on page 19.
http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/deploiement/p1/fichedescriptiveformulaire_9709/fichedescriptiveformulaire_9709.pdf

http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F426.xhtml confirms it.

The WHS website also has an explanation about that on
http://www.wauland.de/en/donation.html stating that it fits the
requirements.

So you can deduct 66% of your donation, up to 20% of your taxable
income. The appropriate location is 7VC.

 If the WHS' status doesn't help EU tax payers deduct it a portion of
 the donation from their taxes, the deal looks overly expensive (I
 don't think that currency exchange has a 5% fee, does it?).

Also take into account that we'd be transferring money both ways when
we want to pay something in Europe (travel reimbursements for
instance).

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Re: GNOME Asia Summit news item

2015-05-08 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote:
 The GNOME Asia Summit 2015 [1] is happening this weekend in Depok,
 Indonesia. I intend to publish a newsitem on gnome.org about it early
 tomorrow GMT. Would be great if someone had a look at the draft before
 (is available in our WordPress instance).

 1 http://2015.gnome.asia/

I just fixed typos and grammar. Thanks for writing the news item.

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Re: Feedback for 3.16 Release Video Revision 1

2015-03-19 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 I can probably start with the translation though.

https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/video-subtitles/master/gnome316/fr

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Re: T-shirts designs

2015-02-23 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Bastian hougaard.jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you think?

Am I the only one thinking that if you're going to have feet on your
feet, the toes should point to the toes?

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Re: FOSDEM recap and report

2015-02-10 Thread Alexandre Franke
I'm sorry but I have sad news.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Alexandre Franke
alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been travelling since FOSDEM and I'm currently on my train home,

My camera bag has been stolen on that train. Inside were of course a
lot of valuable items, but most importantly here the hard drive that
contained all the pictures I took during FOSDEM and my trip afterwards
was in it too. That means I lost 400 pictures, 60 of which were
portraits I took at FOSDEM, with close to no chance of recovering
them.

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Re: FOSDEM recap and report

2015-02-09 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hey,

 On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 12:08:16PM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 I have some photos, but nothing too great.  Alexandre had some great ones!

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 Alexandre: Have you had the chance to review your photos, yet?  And is there
 a small selection of photos we could use for the AR 2015?

I've been travelling since FOSDEM and I'm currently on my train home,
so no I haven't had the time yet, but I'll do that in the coming days.
Once they're ready I'll push them to my GNOME owncloud space and I'll
share with the engagement team.

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