Re: [Enigmail] Finding public keys

2014-07-15 Thread Otto de Voogd
On 07/15/2014 11:22 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: >> If both things were clearly visible, someone searching for me >> could easily see that one key was revoked and not signed by anyone, >> while the other was valid and signed by numerous people. Picking >> the right key would be easy. > > Revoked

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> What I have always found interesting about the debate is that there > seems to be an overwhelming feeling on the part of PGP/MIME advocates > that it is the One Right Way To Do Things. I've never understood that > zeal, but I do have a sort of respect for it. :) My own position is "urgh, please

Re: [Enigmail] Finding public keys

2014-07-15 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.07.14 21:00, Otto de Voogd wrote: > > Actually, I'd like Enigmail to either show clearly that a key is > revoked (as one would see when querying the keyserver), or not show > revoked keys at all. Performing a keyserver search, revoked keys ar

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/15/2014 12:18 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: It's not a flame war if you're talking facts, and leave the personal insults out of it. :) When writing the GnuPG FAQ, I received more flamemail about this than any other subject. Honestly, it reached a point where I put my head in my hands and g

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> So please, folks, keep it classy and polite. :) Incidentally ... that message, like this one, was sent with an S/MIME signature. The mailing list stripped it. Case in point. ;) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ enigmail-u

Re: [Enigmail] Finding public keys

2014-07-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/15/2014 03:00 PM, Otto de Voogd wrote: > Actually, I'd like Enigmail to either show clearly that a key is revoked > (as one would see when querying the keyserver), or not show revoked keys > at all. The keyservers do not check whether the revocation is cryptographically correct, so their "(r

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> MTAs are at least as likely to break inline message signatures as > PGP/MIME-signed messages... PGP/MIME has a failure mode that is commonplace and hard to prevent -- MTAs that automatically strip attachments. Look at PGP-Basics on Yahoo! Groups as an example. It's easy to say, "well, they sho

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> It's not a flame war if you're talking facts, and leave the personal > insults out of it. :) When writing the GnuPG FAQ, I received more flamemail about this than any other subject. Honestly, it reached a point where I put my head in my hands and gave serious thought to abandoning the endeavor.

Re: [Enigmail] Finding public keys

2014-07-15 Thread Otto de Voogd
On 07/15/2014 02:42 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: > > On 14.07.14 23:43, Otto de Voogd wrote: >> (...) However it doesn't make a difference to my problem. On >> Enigmail I searched on gpg.mozilla.org anyway (where it was >> revoked) and it always shows the revoked key first. > >> If I search for

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/15/2014 01:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > For example, it's a fact that inline signatures work better with a wide > variety of software (MTAs, mailing lists, etc.). That's the chief "pro" > in terms of using inline. > > The chief "con" is that for people who receive the message who are not > u

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/15/2014 10:34 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 07/15/2014 01:23 PM, Martin Vegter wrote: What is the recommendation, then? Should inline-PGP be used preferably, when sending plain messages (without attachments) ? that's for your correspondents to decide, and not something you have contr

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/15/2014 01:23 PM, Martin Vegter wrote: > What is the recommendation, then? > Should inline-PGP be used preferably, when sending plain messages > (without attachments) ? that's for your correspondents to decide, and not something you have control over there are much better arguments (in both

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Martin Vegter
> On 07/15/2014 05:37 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > >> However, when I select an encrypted/signed message, the OpenPGP >> prompt pops up and asks me for my password anyway. > >> This is extremely annoying, because it makes it impossible to >> scroll down the list of my emails. Every time I hit o

Re: [Enigmail] unable to disable "Automatically Decrypt messages"

2014-07-15 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14.07.14 20:55, Martin Vegter wrote: > Hello, > > I am using Enigmail 1.6 and Thunderbird (Icedove) 24.6.0. > > In the main menu on the top, I have following option deactivated: > > OpenPGP -> Automatically Decrypt/Verify messages > > However,

Re: [Enigmail] encryption part of the message

2014-07-15 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks very much :) On 07/15/2014 03:24 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote: > On 15.07.14 01:13, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: >> I want to encrypt a part of message and not full message .. how >> to do that with enigmail ? > > This is not possible w

Re: [Enigmail] encryption part of the message

2014-07-15 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 15.07.14 01:13, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: > I want to encrypt a part of message and not full message .. how to > do that with enigmail ? This is not possible with respect to the normal message text. Enigmail always takes the full message

Re: [Enigmail] Finding public keys

2014-07-15 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 14.07.14 23:43, Otto de Voogd wrote: > (...) However it doesn't make a difference to my problem. On > Enigmail I searched on gpg.mozilla.org anyway (where it was > revoked) and it always shows the revoked key first. > > If I search for ruben.gar