Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-25 Thread Simon TRENY
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:07:27 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0200 Simon TRENY [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Wed, 18 Apr 2007

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: simple answer: 1. use gadcon 2. add a generic layout layout smart to gadcon so it can use that instead of the linear one it uses for the shelf 3. make the desktop advertise a gadcon layout. done. existing modules and

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0200 Simon TRENY [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: simple answer: 1. use gadcon

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I missed this one by Brian.. Write an app that sets ecore_evas_alpha_set(ee, 1); ecore_evas_borderless_set(ee, 1); and run a compositor? Then, if desired set them to stack 'always below', and either alt-drag them around or use esmart_draggies? That might be one way

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Am Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:42:22 -0400 schrieb Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday, 18 April 2007, at 21:29:05 (+0200), Hannes Janetzek wrote: I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff falls in this category for example. Devian and calendar are both dead.

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hannes wrote: ... ... In short: there are a bunch of other modules that need to control how and where they appear on the desk; modules which might have multiple instance configurations to store. I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff falls in this

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wrote: Out of curiosity I looked up desklet and found references to 'gdesklets' and 'SuperKaramba', which it seems are very popular projects for gnome and kde respectively. But there also came up something called 'adesklets', which is a similar independent project

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Simon TRENY
Hi, I quite agree with you, I think that for now, modules are rather limited. Either a module is contained by a shelf by providing a gadcon client, or it has to do everything by itself (for example, if we want to put a module on the background, we have to handle its placement, the

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simon wrote: I think it would be great if we could place freely modules on the background, as it was possible with the old gadman thing. It would allow to have desklets like the ones in adesklets (ie. a cpu monitor with an histogram for example). Shelf are great for small modules,

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Brian Mattern
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:51:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon wrote: I think it would be good to have freely placed modules in e17... but I just wonder if this should be the main method for having large numbers of interesting desklets kinds of things in e. Write an

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Hannes Janetzek
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:46:16 GMT schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hannes wrote: ... ... In short: there are a bunch of other modules that need to control how and where they appear on the desk; modules which might have multiple instance configurations to store.

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread Simon TRENY
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:04:24 -0500, Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:51:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon wrote: I think it would be good to have freely placed modules in e17... but I just wonder if this should be the main method for

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course it has some drawbacks, the biggest I can see is that modules are dependent to e17 but... who cares, we use e17 :) And you use the modules -- with e17. Someone(s) has to maintain them all, throughout the lifetime of e17.. to be in sinc with it, and error free, and not slow

Re: [E-devel] Ideas for a new 'desklet'-module api

2007-04-18 Thread Michael Jennings
On Wednesday, 18 April 2007, at 21:29:05 (+0200), Hannes Janetzek wrote: I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff falls in this category for example. Devian and calendar are both dead. The module form of engage is also outdated. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a.