On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:07:27 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:22 +0200 Simon TRENY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:11:42 +0900, > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:05 +0200 Hannes Janetzek > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > > simple answer: > > > > > > 1. use gadcon > > > 2. add a "generic layout" layout smart to gadcon so it can use > > > that instead of the linear one it uses for the shelf > > > 3. make the desktop advertise a gadcon layout. > > I'm going to try to work on points 2 and 3 in the next few days. > > Raster, If I remember correctly, you wanted the "generic layout" to > > work well with resolution changes. Any requirements for that? > > I see two possibilities here: > > - 1/ When the resolution is changed, the gadgets keep their > > relative position, i.e. if the horizontal alignement of a gadget was > > 0.5 (center), it will stay centered regardless to the screen > > resolution > > yup. actually see the existing linear one. it "hooks" gadcon clients > to one 1 3 points (left, center or right / top/center/bottom if > vertical). then they are remembered to be N pixels offset from those > points, so things i stick in a corner of my screen stay in that > corner in that exact sizing and arrangement irrespective of screen > size changes. this is the way to go. it's kind of a combination of 1 > & 2. so if i have: > > +---------+ > | A BC| > | D| > | E | > |F | > |G H IJ| > +---------+ > > and i resize the "Screen" (or gadcon layout object) i end up with: > > +---------------+ > | A BC| > | D| > | | > | E | > | | > |F | > |G H IJ| > +---------------+ > > now the problem comes when you resize DOWN - > +-----+ > | ABC| > |F E D| > |G HIJ| > +-----+ > > now things begin to overlap - but still are ok. as long as you > remember their location and "hook point" WHEN a user moves them - and > ONLY then (not when a resize happens) then when you resize back you > go back to the original state, not a new modified one. now if you > resize down to: > > +---+ > |FAC| > |GHK| > +---+ > > i now don't have room for a lot of elements. you will need to find > some way to squeeze elements or shuffle/move them if possible. Ok, I'll do it this way. Thanks :) > > > - 2/ When the resolution is changed, the gadgets keep their > > absolute position, i.e if a gadget was at pos 200,300, it > > will stay at 200,300. If the gadget is no longer entirely > > visible, it will be moved in order to get visible again. > > > > The first one seems better to me. > > > > Regards, > > Simon TRENY <MoOm> > > > > > > > > done. existing modules and gadgets will then also work there. > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I started to make a new taskbar-module based on engage. For now > > > > it uses gadcon, but this has several disadvantages. The problem > > > > is that the shelf is intended to hold more than one > > > > gadcon-client and therefore the clients should be changed on > > > > changes to the shelf. In my case the module should control the > > > > size, hiding and style of the shelf and futhermore it doesn't > > > > make sense to have more than one client in its shelf. > > > > > > > > In short: there are a bunch of other modules that need to > > > > control how and where they appear on the desk; modules which > > > > might have multiple instance configurations to store. > > > > I would say engage, devian, calendar and all this desklet-stuff > > > > falls in this category for example. > > > > > > > > So what interfaces could be needed by such a module and how > > > > should the user configure these modules? > > > > > > > > Ok, one could implement all the window- and > > > > instance-handling-configuration for each module, but i think > > > > this will cause a very incosistent configuration of such > > > > modules in the end. So I would do it like this, as one example: > > > > 'Module Settings' -> 'Engage' -> Configure -> 'add Instance' > > > > > > > > >From the user perspective I think it would make more sense if > > > > >one adds > > > > a module like this just like shelfs. > > > > So the add Button from the shelf settings would show a > > > > select-window to add a shelf or an engage bar, etc. > > > > 'Shelf Settings' -> add -> 'Engage' > > > > > > > > > > > > On the interface side. > > > > Just some ideas i had so far for this new kind of shelf. > > > > Module provides information to the 'shelf': > > > > - a name (to show in the select window) > > > > - which orientations are possible (float, edge,..) > > > > - if size is set by the module > > > > Module can cause the 'shelf' > > > > - to resize > > > > - to show/hide > > > > > > > > 'Shelf' provides funtionality > > > > - move window / setting the edge > > > > - hiding > > > > - 'abstracts' if the module instance draws on the desk or a > > > > popup (as is does now already) > > > > > > > > I know there is the gadcon between the client and the shelf. > > > > Though for this kind of shelf gadcon could be much simplified, > > > > since it has only to handle with one module. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there any objections to add something like this to e? > > > > I mean, it could simplify the work to create a desklet-like > > > > module a lot. > > > > If there is a better way to achieve what i want, please let me > > > > know! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Hannes 'jeffdameth' Janetzek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > > > > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and > > > > take control of your XML. 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