Carsten wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>
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>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> oh of course. details! :) we can dot the i's and cross the t's soon
>>> enough. :)
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:52 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:03:33 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>> Jose Gonzalez wrote:
>> > Gustavo wrote:
>> >> Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I
>> >> th
Hi guys,
I still don't have time to play/help with Eina, but from what I saw so
far, I'd like to propose some ideas and request some features:
- make data types thread safe. I know evas and other libraries are
not thread safe, but not being able to create lists, arrays and hashes
on different t
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:07:27 -0400 Jose Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Did you use FM in any way before the crash? If so, can you describe
your actions? Even if they were taken like hours before the crash.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just about to watch a movie when bam, E17 crashed and took
> itself out. Now thats ok, Im k
Am Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:17:43 +1000 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The
Rasterman):
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:40:04 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > One idea I discussed with Vincent today is that our lack of releases
> > has caused many users to lose interest and stop taking n
2008/8/2 Fedor Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Did you use FM in any way before the crash? If so, can you describe
> your actions? Even if they were taken like hours before the crash.
>
Well, the initial crash happened when opening a movie in smplayer.
Generally it flashes a black screen before start
Hello,
I think Dbus is a great way to communicate between desktop
applications. Currently I need it in my OISP (Open Infotainment Service
Provider) prototype. This needs a Dbus binding that integrates with
Ecore. There’s the e_dbus in the Enlightenment CVS, but it doesn’t fit
into my C++ design wi
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-08-02 07:11:45 -0700
Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs
Packages that failed to build:
enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log
epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log
Packages
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I still don't have time to play/help with Eina, but from what I saw so
> far, I'd like to propose some ideas and request some features:
>
> - make data types thread safe. I know evas and other librar
Nick Hughart wrote:
> dan sinclair wrote:
>> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>>
>>> Vincent Torri wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
> I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking about
> the impression it gives. Changing things in
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I still don't have time to play/help with Eina, but from what I saw so
>> far, I'd like to propose some ideas
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:18 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:53 AM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>>> Vincent Torri wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
> I'd say you're so eager to release som
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:42 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> babbled:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh of course. details! :) we can dot
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:12 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> As I said, it already happened, don't hide under the "we did not
> official 1.0 yet".
No, it hasn't. If a company jumped on _alpha_ level software and
started to develop around it they have to expect that changes are
coming. Hence the
Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
> Nick Hughart wrote:
>
>> dan sinclair wrote:
>>
>>> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>>>
>>>
Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
>
>
>> I'd say you're so eager to r
Nick Hughart wrote:
> Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
>> There is an icon cache with 100 icons. Latest used icons are prepended
>> to the list. If an icon is in the cache, the cache does help.
>>
>> So for a scenario where a user only triggers efreet_icon through f.ex.
>> a small favorite menu in e1
Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
> Nick Hughart wrote:
>
>> Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
>>
>>> There is an icon cache with 100 icons. Latest used icons are prepended
>>> to the list. If an icon is in the cache, the cache does help.
>>>
>>> So for a scenario where a user only triggers efreet_icon
All good points, and I definitely agree that having a flat access
structure is very nice.
Perhaps we can keep it even if we use a CMS? Worth looking into.
But, here are some arguments FOR a CMS:
1. We except articles to be written not by devs, but by users. I.E.
People who are not technical enoug
We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we
have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a
CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS.
If you want to write news releases put them on blogs. Or write a news
blurb for the front page. If longer artic
> If we already know we're going to rip out a major subsystem it isn't
> time to release. Sure we can draw a line in the sand but it's better
> to draw the line where it makes sense. After the lua change. Not an
> arbitrary date for the sake of a release.
Again, you are doing the assumption that
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:58 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we
> have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a
> CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS.
>
> If you want to write news releases
While drunk at the moment (yet again) i think i would contribute to
any user controlled content as would a lot of people. (while not drunk
of course.) People semi-excited about the project would like to show
their support too. And thats the great thing about OSS I believe that
the community gets a
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several
> commercial products in the past. It was each time a really good choose.
> It's easy to understand, small and I think most important has a really
> big
I'm not saying having a CMS will suddenly bring people to write.
That's a separate problem.
I think it will not BLOCK people from writing. There's a difference.
There are various avenues we can pursue to attract writers.
Bounties, request for articles on the front page, etc can easily
attract write
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>> I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several
>> commercial products in the past. It was each time a really good choose.
>> It's eas
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:26:57 +0800 Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> While drunk at the moment (yet again) i think i would contribute to
> any user controlled content as would a lot of people. (while not drunk
> of course.) People semi-excited about the project would like to show
> their support
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:55 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote:
> I'm not saying having a CMS will suddenly bring people to write.
> That's a separate problem.
> I think it will not BLOCK people from writing. There's a difference.
> There are various avenues we can pursue to attract writers.
> Bounties, r
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:58:05 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
>
>
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >> I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:58 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>>
>>> I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several
>>> commercial products in the p
Am Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:32:01 +1000 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The
Rasterman):
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>
> > I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several
> > commercial products in the past. It was each time a really good
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Andreas Volz wrote:
> If the new scripting language is lUA it should be replaced before
> releasing edje.
>
> My proposal is to create a new branch for LUA integration and then
> define a fixed time frame for this task. If LUA is integrated in this
> time frame then we releas
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:09:27 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
>
>
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Andreas Volz wrote:
>
> > If the new scripting language is lUA it should be replaced before
> > releasing edje.
> >
> > My proposal is to create a new branch for LUA integration and the
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 04:32 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several
> > commercial products in the past. It was each time a really good choose.
> > It's eas
As crazy as it might seem, id like to hear from mekius and devilhorns
about how easy and useful embryo was to them in regards to them in
various projects in cvs. As an e17 themer, it hasnt proven much use to
me, but i consider myself further to the edje when it comes to embryo
and edje talk!
Toma
Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
> imho, it both lua and javascript are good choices for this. Though I
> haven't used lua personally, I only hear good things about it, and the
> syntax is very C-ish. As far as js is concerned, there's probably a lot
> more people familiar with it (including me) than lua.
Toma wrote:
> As crazy as it might seem, id like to hear from mekius and devilhorns
> about how easy and useful embryo was to them in regards to them in
> various projects in cvs. As an e17 themer, it hasnt proven much use to
> me, but i consider myself further to the edje when it comes to embryo
>
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:38 +0200, lok wrote:
> Toma wrote:
> > As crazy as it might seem, id like to hear from mekius and devilhorns
> > about how easy and useful embryo was to them in regards to them in
> > various projects in cvs. As an e17 themer, it hasnt proven much use to
> > me, but i consi
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 23:07 +0200, lok wrote:
> Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
> > imho, it both lua and javascript are good choices for this. Though I
> > haven't used lua personally, I only hear good things about it, and the
> > syntax is very C-ish. As far as js is concerned, there's probably a lot
>
Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 23:07 +0200, lok wrote:
>
>> Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
>>
>>> imho, it both lua and javascript are good choices for this. Though I
>>> haven't used lua personally, I only hear good things about it, and the
>>> syntax is very C-ish. As far as j
Hi all, as you all (most) know, eina has hit proto cvs. I think
several things have to be explained, references to eina's license,
code and so have appeared on different threads and honestly following
them all is very complicated and is also hard to actually decide
something, so it might be good if
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:09:27 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Andreas Volz wrote:
>>
>> > If the new scripting language is lUA it should be replaced before
>> >
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all, as you all (most) know, eina has hit proto cvs. I think
> several things have to be explained, references to eina's license,
> code and so have appeared on different threads and honestly following
> them all
On 2-Aug-08, at 7:59 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote:
> License
> As most of the code on efl-research project (and most of *my* code) it
> does not have COPYING file, it was left out on purpose, basically to
Leaving out a COPYING file basically makes the code proprietary. No-
one can use it with
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:07:40 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> I disagree. 'Compatibility problems' are non-existent, since they will
> all interact with edje parts, not with one another. And reading
> someone's code will always be harder if you don't know the language
> which
On Aug 2, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:52 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:03:33 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> babbled:
>>
>>> Jose Gonzalez wrote:
Gustavo wrote:
> Sin
On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
>
> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote:
>
>> Vincent Torri wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>>>
>>>
I'd say you're so eager to release something you're not thinking
about
the impression it gives. Changing th
On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
>>
>> It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a
>> 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out
>> the
>> door to say we had a 1.0. Major releases shoul
On Aug 2, 2008, at 6:55 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
> On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote:
>> On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote:
>>>
>>> It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a
>>> 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out
As mentioned on the Community Building thread, the idea for LoCos
(Local Community) groups seems like a good way for people to feel
involved and even get together for a beer or 3. It seems to work well
for projects like Ubuntu so I thought Id start by showing the link on
how their LoCos are built a
dan sinclair wrote:
>
>> License
>>
>>
>
> I won't help if it's LGPL. I also won't link to it in my code as I
> won't fix bugs in it.
>
> dan
>
I have to respect your strong and decisive view here, certainly your
decision to not contribute to a library under a license you feel
I wrote:
> Carsten wrote:
>
>> .
>>
>>> Exactly. It's useful to have a variety of 'objs', some compound,
>>> some primitive, etc.
>>> I think both an "svg" object (set an svg file/group, support affine
>>> transforms) and a "cairo"
>>> object (an implicit cairo surface to dr
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