Re: [E-devel] Eina licence

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: I won't help if it's LGPL. I also won't link to it in my code as I won't fix bugs in it. People like Cedric and Gustavo and their companies are more open minded than you. Their companies work with and on the efl. With he BSD licence, their

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until now I didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that topic. At work

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the license question

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the license question

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:30 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 2:50 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine and that's exactly the purpose to use BSD

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:28 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People contributing to the community? Sure that's ok for me. That's ok for everyone I believe. I think that's kinda the point. People contributing

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and it's up to the company to decide what they need to keep private to make money. That's how companies work. I don't see any reason why we should put

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-03 Thread dan sinclair
On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ian Caldwell wrote: Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:18 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:53 AM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2-Aug-08, at 1:40 AM, Nick Hughart wrote: Vincent Torri wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: I'd say you're so eager to release something you're

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:42 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:12:00 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh of course. details! :) we can dot the i's and cross

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:12 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: As I said, it already happened, don't hide under the we did not official 1.0 yet. No, it hasn't. If a company jumped on _alpha_ level software and started to develop around it they have to expect that changes are coming. Hence the

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] cms?

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS. If you want to write news releases put them on blogs. Or write a news blurb for the front page. If longer

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] [website] cms?

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:55 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote: I'm not saying having a CMS will suddenly bring people to write. That's a separate problem. I think it will not BLOCK people from writing. There's a difference. There are various avenues we can pursue to attract writers. Bounties,

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 2:58 PM, Vincent Torri wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I vote to use LUA for scripting too. I've embedded it into several commercial products in the past. It was

Re: [E-devel] Eina

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 7:59 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote: License As most of the code on efl-research project (and most of *my* code) it does not have COPYING file, it was left out on purpose, basically to Leaving out a COPYING file basically makes the code proprietary. No- one can use it

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-02 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 9:41 PM, Blake Barnett wrote: On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:53 PM, dan sinclair wrote: It all comes down to when you're doing the 2.0 release. If you do a 2.0 release in a few months it looks like we just rushed a 1.0 out the door to say we had a 1.0. Major releases should last

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
That's true, and it is bad. If we want to use it we have to clean up the aggregated feeds. In fact planet is just a feed aggregator, a very good feed aggregator, but imho it could be good to have an official E blog. I really don't see the point of a blog. Why not just put your blog entry in

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:34 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: 2. E planet!?! Developers and power users should few lines on e status of developement. This involves. right now, e planet has not a lot of topics related to development You'll also notice that about 90% of planet.e.o content is myself and

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 10:40 AM, Matteo wrote: because raster did it like that :-D I'm not sure why people don't want to use a cms, but I've being told that they want to keep like that (cvs based). If you keep it CVS-based, it's hard to develop and hard to update with news, topic and more.

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:49 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Friday, 01 August 2008, at 20:38:46 (+0200), Vincent Torri wrote: I have no design, but i have already complained about the web site on the ML. I'm not a good designers, but i think that there are some things that MUST appear on a web

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote: Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small usage examples would do. Saying we need articles is fine. Finding people to write good articles is hard. dan

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:04 PM, Ian Caldwell wrote: What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it should have. My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site *1. Create

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote: *5. weekly or biweekly articles* Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long run. They can then be linked from the main site. This is what we did

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina cedric

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
The COPYING file for this is currently blank. What license is this work under? Can someone please fill in the COPYING file. Thanks, dan On 30-Jul-08, at 8:46 AM, Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : cedric Project : e17 Module : proto/eina Dir :

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 7:40 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: I can do that. I've been reading the CVS logs, E-devel discussions and stuff for years, so I think I can post news and blog about the major events in the community/changes in the E(FL). The problem is, I am quite tech- interested, but

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 6:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: yeah. i agree we need releases. it's probably our biggest issue. right now in lib-space i'd want to clean up 2 major thnigs that are currently underway: 1. eina - move fully to using it. remove all data stuff from ecore/

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant posts appear we can add news items about them that point back to the blog. http://enlightenedjournal.wordpress.com/ This

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: There is also a bug in Edje that has bitten us in Ewl a few times where re-using Edje objects seems to cause strange things to hang around. I believe pfritz was the last person to look into this so he might have some more

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 8:55 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:53 AM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1-Aug-08, at 8:38 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: Setup a blog on one of the many blogging platforms around and we can syndicate the feed to planet.e.org. As relevant

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Guys, maybe you're forgetting about it, maybe you're hiding behind the we have not released a stable version for this reason, but the fact is that this will happen even now. Since there was not a release, people just assumed that CVS

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 12:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're releasing something before it should be released just to give the impression of a 1.0 for something that isn't 1.0. That leaves a worse taste

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:03 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: This is probably better to do before we release. If we put out Edje with Embryo support and then remove Embryo with Edje2 we'll be pissing off a lot of people that create themes and applications. Better to bite the bullet and deal with it

Re: [E-devel] Community Building

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 2-Aug-08, at 1:51 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote: How does our changing now affect them any different then if we changed in 6 months? As I said, you think that we will release the next major release (with api changes, etc..) in 6 months and I

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC and on forums saying, E17 is good, but its just not finished/has bits missing. Some lusers go as far to

Re: [E-devel] Community Building - release

2008-07-31 Thread dan sinclair
On 31-Jul-08, at 4:14 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31-Jul-08, at 3:48 PM, Bruno wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2008 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything, it might be an idea to ask people, what 'needs' to be done? I see a few people on IRC

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-27 Thread dan sinclair
On 27-Jul-08, at 5:54 AM, Jose Gonzalez wrote: As you never cared about building a large community of foss developers, you have thus helped to create a largely dysfunctional project starved of resources. That's as much a part of E's legacy as anything good it may have stood for

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-25 Thread dan sinclair
On 25-Jul-08, at 7:48 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote: Peter wrote: to it and the original code was LGPL. But would you share code with someone, that doesn't share code with you? Good point. And that's precisely why many people don't like to contribute to bsd licensed projects. In the

Re: [E-devel] License questions

2008-07-24 Thread dan sinclair
On 24-Jul-08, at 5:26 PM, Peter Wehrfritz wrote: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schrieb: One thing I'd like to see here is the opinion of those that do most of the code these days, guys like englebass, dj2, pfritz and raster. You wrote lots of code already, and continue to do, what do you think

Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Exchange - A new place to trade themes and showcase applications and modules.

2008-07-22 Thread dan sinclair
On 22-Jul-08, at 3:58 PM, Dan Kronstal wrote: I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but it sounds like OpenID is redundant. What we've got here is three subdomains with three logins/accounts when they could all be using one instead. bugtracker/ trac are their own sites with their

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/ecore ravenlock

2008-06-28 Thread dan sinclair
Your code marked Dead code is actually code used to shut up compiler warnings about unused variables. So, not dead. dan On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Enlightenment CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : ravenlock Project : e17 Module : libs/ecore Dir

Re: [E-devel] [RFC] EET crypto and signature support.

2008-06-16 Thread dan sinclair
Michael Jennings wrote: On Monday, 16 June 2008, at 15:33:23 (+0200), Cedric BAIL wrote: On this topic, I believe we have two choice, libtomcrypt (http://libtom.org/?page=featuresnewsitems=5whatfile=crypt) and openssl. My opinion on this subject is certainly biased as I already use

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet raster

2008-05-28 Thread dan sinclair
Why did you comment out all the printfs for invalid files? Those can be useful if the .ini file is actually screwed up. dan Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : raster Project : e17 Module : libs/efreet Dir : e17/libs/efreet/src/lib Modified Files:

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/efreet dj2

2008-05-07 Thread dan sinclair
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : dj2 Project : e17 Module : libs/efreet Dir : e17/libs/efreet/src/lib Modified Files: efreet_ini.c Log Message: - if we can't parse the INI file we can't set ini-data so return NULL instead of an invalid ini

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: El Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:57:04 The DarkMaster escribió: Andre's idea looks very interesting to me (I never mentioned, by the way, that EWl or anything else should be reduced to something like GTK. Oh. I didn't meant to say you wanted that. My point was that complete unity

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: El Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:17:01 dan sinclair escribió: The thing is, you aren't gaining anything. The themer still has to theme everything twice. All you have is a basic set of images they reference. Which they could have, and just copy into the themes anyway. That depends

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: El Tuesday 01 April 2008 18:33:22 dan sinclair escribió: I think this is a lot of effort to save the themer the extra 20 minutes it will take to change the images in the 3 theme files instead of just one. This covers much more than images. Textures are groups for a reason. Most

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-04-01 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: dan sinclair wrote: To what end? What's the point of tying them together like this? It would be better, in the long run, to just have a single widget library instead of 3. The 'one true way' of widgetry with the one true mechanism for theming

Re: [E-devel] Unified theme for apps

2008-03-31 Thread dan sinclair
The DarkMaster wrote: I think almost everyone is understimating the problem. This is a very bad issue only Enlightenment has and a lot people asks why does this happen, even in our OpenGEU FOrums. Even creting EWL, ETK, etc. themes is really something bad a user has to do. Once you create an

Re: [E-devel] R: Unified theme for apps

2008-03-30 Thread dan sinclair
Toma wrote: I'm not sure, but I think it's possible to place the EWL and ETK theme inside the e17 theme itself...someone can confirm this? No you cant. They both have seperate EDJ's and their own theme choosers. Toma Actually, you can. At least with Ewl you could combine the themes if

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-23 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: However you have it (though rel coords would seem best), if you really want ewl to be a flexible tool for building artistic, rich apps, then you'll want a natural way to arbitrarily position child *widgets* - not just evas objects.. and to allow for

Re: [E-devel] SoC Object Layout Library was: Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-20 Thread dan sinclair
andres wrote: El Wednesday 19 March 2008 19:26:18 dan sinclair escribió: Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? I have been giving

[E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? This would, hopefully, simplify some of the container code and allow for more code re-use

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: Massimiliano wrote: Might I suggest exporting the efreet xml parser and use it instead? Does anyone object? Using strstr to parse xml isn't very nice. Sebastian On my side i don't have any preference, i initially wrote my parser

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
performance does it?, which appears to me a majority of peoples complaints regarding XML use. Dale. dan sinclair wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Massimiliano wrote: Might I suggest exporting the efreet xml parser and use it instead? Does anyone object? Using strstr to parse

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: Dan wrote: Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? This would, hopefully, simplify some of the

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Peter Wehrfritz wrote: dan sinclair schrieb: Currently Ewl positions widgets based on absolute coordinates. This works but isn't unnecessarily optional. Thoughts on changing the internals of Ewl to use parent relative placement of widgets? This would, hopefully, simplify some

Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] more works and fixes for wallpaper fetcher

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
stellar parsing performance does it?, which appears to me a majority of peoples complaints regarding XML use. Dale. dan sinclair wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Massimiliano wrote: Might I suggest exporting the efreet xml parser and use it instead? Does anyone object? Using

Re: [E-devel] Ewl widget positioning

2008-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Jose Gonzalez wrote: You can do this now with Ewl. The only problem being, everything is absolute coordinates which is a bit strange for this kind of widget. If you want to do this, inherit ewl_box, remove configure event, add your own configure and use ewl_object_place to put the

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-26 Thread dan sinclair
Jess wrote: Is there a dedicated person we should send the email to? Or just email the list? Sorry, not familiar with the etiquette here. Recording them into wiki.enlightenment.org would probably be the best bet. A much more stable and easy to use record then the mailing list. dan

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Vincent Torri wrote: about these suggestions, would it be interesting to add them in the trac main page ? I think wiki.enlightenment.org would make more sense then trac. dan - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-02-25 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: better than in the mailing list :) though trac is also a wiki... :) but as such the trac stuff is for more of an official todo list. SoC stuff is right now just banter :) Is this were I resist the urge to mention that having two wiki's seems silly?

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: apps/e jeffdameth

2008-01-07 Thread dan sinclair
On 7-Jan-08, at 10:26 AM, Michael Jennings wrote: On Monday, 07 January 2008, at 09:21:25 (-0600), Ravenlock wrote: Either way... the sources are a hodgepodge of formatting. I wonder what folks would think of a document formalizing the style of the sources. And possible a set of scripts

Re: [E-devel] Creation of Widgets

2007-12-10 Thread dan sinclair
There are some documents on the wiki on creating widgets in Edje. You can also try talking to dresb as he's doing that documentation stuff at the moment. You can see the wiki at wiki.enlightenment.org. Otherwise, I'd say embed Ewl into your application as it will make development a lot

Re: [E-devel] Doxy update

2007-12-06 Thread dan sinclair
This is great. I've had this on my plate for a while but haven't done it for two reasons. 1) no time and 2) while I was doing the first 3 the header and stylesheet were still in flux so I didn't want to go too far. Everything seems to have settled for the website so I think now is a good

Re: [E-devel] R: Re: Edje Editor digest

2007-12-06 Thread dan sinclair
No reason to cvs remove. Just leave the file there. You can cvs update with new files added. In order to use cvs diff -Nu you have to cvs add the file first. Otherwise cvs doesn't know it's a new file. dan On 6-Dec-07, at 11:01 PM, Dave Andreoli wrote: Just cvs add the file first. dan

Re: [E-devel] authorship

2007-12-02 Thread dan sinclair
Sounds like a good idea. We can also stick the docbook source into the e17/docs directory with the other books if you want. dan On 2-Dec-07, at 7:53 AM, andres wrote: If I combine my two articles: http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Development_with_Edje:_Introduction

Re: [E-devel] EWL: Wrong make deps?

2007-11-30 Thread dan sinclair
The e17 theme and the ewl_embed_test theme are totally independent. There is no shared code, or anything else, between them. dan On 30-Nov-07, at 10:25 AM, Martin Zwickel wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:03:40 -0500 Will Keaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] bubbled: FWIW, I've noticed that when

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/e_dbus ravenlock

2007-11-19 Thread dan sinclair
I'm not seeing this when I have full debug on with Ewl. Can you please post an example program that shows this behavour? We've been trying to cleanup as many of the warnings as we can in the system. There are a few warnings spit but not many. dan On 19-Nov-07, at 7:14 PM, Brett Nash

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/e_dbus ravenlock

2007-11-19 Thread dan sinclair
Oh, Evas Errors. Sorry, wasn't paying attention. I thought you were talking about Ewl warnings. I haven't tried to turn on the Evas stuff before. dan On 19-Nov-07, at 8:18 PM, Brett Nash wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 19:54 -0500, dan sinclair wrote: I'm not seeing this when I have full

Re: [E-devel] Trac? (milestone/todo list visibility)

2007-11-15 Thread dan sinclair
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also like bugzilla completeness, but unless we'll create hierarchical bug dependencies, it doesn't worth the pain. We already use bug dependencies in Ewl and we have to keep this capability. If Trac can't handle this it isn't an option. dan

Re: [E-devel] {Spam?} Re: Trac? (milestone/todo list visibility)

2007-11-15 Thread dan sinclair
The fact that trac has been added as a link on the main title bar makes it seem pretty official. It also means that anyone coming to the site will use trac instead of bugzilla which isn't on the main titlebar. dan Nick Hughart wrote: This was not meant to turn into a big deal. Trac is up

Re: [E-devel] Trac? (milestone/todo list visibility)

2007-11-15 Thread dan sinclair
Having two systems is going to quickly get out of hand. The longer they both exist the harder this is going to be to fix it. We currently track our todo lists and bugs in bugzilla. We just mark todos as enhancements. You, of course, have the ability to add comments and we have a wiki setup

Re: [E-devel] EDC Reference

2007-11-13 Thread dan sinclair
to accomodate the reference, a few lines in Doxyfile, edje.css and the functions I moved around in edje_cc_handlers.c. http://pastebin.com/m1929ac03 The reference itself, I'm still working on :) El Tuesday 13 November 2007 03:38:58 Vincent Torri escribió: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, dan sinclair

Re: [E-devel] EDC Reference

2007-11-12 Thread dan sinclair
Did you remove collections.group.parts.part.description.color_class, color, color2, color3 on purpose? If so, what's the reasoning behind this? (lines 139-142 and 1620 - 1694) dan On 13-Nov-07, at 1:08 AM, Ben Rockwood wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007

Re: [E-devel] Nightly build log for E17

2007-07-19 Thread dan sinclair
David Seikel wrote: raster highly recommends that everything get updated at once. I agree with him. If by that you mean that the person changing the API fix everything in cvs, that's the exact opposite of what Raster said. He said it can take a lot of time to fix, and you should only break

[E-devel] Deprecating Ecore_Desktop

2007-07-17 Thread dan sinclair
All, We've had Efreet in CVS for a while now and it seems to be working well. Taking a look at the other apps in CVS the only one still using Ecore_Desktop that I noticed was Engage. Can the Engage maintainer please update the app to use Efreet so we can move Ecore_Desktop over into proto?

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-10 Thread dan sinclair
Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote: On 7/10/07, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9-Jul-07, at 8:13 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: On 7/9/07, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I want to reply before this thread ends discussing only the how do we patch projects

Re: [E-devel] Bugzilla

2007-07-09 Thread dan sinclair
They changed the simple search so it requires a keyword. But, you can click search, Advanced Search tab, then just hit search and it will give everything. (You can then save this search at the bottom of the list and it will be added into your footer where you can just click the link) dan

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-09 Thread dan sinclair
David Seikel wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:29:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:05:30 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 8-Jul-07, at 7:51 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: Maybe we need to have official

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-08 Thread dan sinclair
On 8-Jul-07, at 7:40 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, from an outsiders perspective, I thought it might be useful to pop in a word. With regards to being just a WM or being a full desktop environment or being a desktop shell - you

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-08 Thread dan sinclair
On 8-Jul-07, at 7:35 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: The question that I will ask again is, why do we have patches that are several months old on our mailing list that have not been given a yes or no yet?. Probably because they got lost in a flood of email and the author never popped up to

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-08 Thread dan sinclair
On 8-Jul-07, at 7:43 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 02:35:15 +0300 Hisham Mardam Bey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 7/9/07, Виктор Кожухаров [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the options would be to assign a maintainer to each piece of code in our CVS. That

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-08 Thread dan sinclair
On 8-Jul-07, at 7:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:55:08 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: i swear i recently cleaned out the patches - like a few weeks back? Actually.. .I think we need a patches mailing list...? Can you say bugzilla

Re: [E-devel] Is this a community project?

2007-07-08 Thread dan sinclair
On 8-Jul-07, at 7:51 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: Maybe we need to have official IRC logs? Maybe add a #ecode channel whose ONLY purpose is discussion of code, design, direction ideas etc. No help questions - no random discussion. Log it and put that up on-line. If you

[E-devel] Bug Tracker

2007-07-04 Thread dan sinclair
We've been trying the new Bug genie bug tracker for a little while now and I must say, I'm pretty disappointed in it's abilities. It took a lot of effort to get setup, and we haven't been able to figure out how to do simple things like change a bugs product or attach patches after the bug has

Re: [E-devel] Bug Tracker

2007-07-04 Thread dan sinclair
yes, you're nuts ;) (sorry you set yourself up for that) Second point I also think we should use bugzilla it may be a bit overkill but at least it does wtf we want it to do so I vote we setup bugzilla and I'm willing to do so, but we know you spent a lot of time setting this one up

Re: [E-devel] Ewl+DirectFB

2007-06-22 Thread dan sinclair
It can't run on evas directly as it needs to know how to receive mouse and key events. But, the Ewl engines are setup with dependencies. So, if you take a look at evas_fb at the top you'll see an ewl_engine_dependencies function that declares evas as it's parent. It then just implements the

Re: [E-devel] edje icons, efreet

2007-06-04 Thread dan sinclair
Jochen Schroeder wrote: Hi all, I cannot get edje icons to display in my menu, although they display fine in Ibar and on the borders. I reported that a while ago, but the problem is still there, both for the debian packages from edevelop and compiled cvs. I also noticed I have to specify

Re: [E-devel] WWW!

2007-04-26 Thread dan sinclair
Luchezar Petkov wrote: dan sinclair wrote: On 25-Apr-07, at 3:05 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: 1) Rewrite/update the user guide on get-e.org and move it in the official site as user documentation. It will cover ONLY e17 itself and the official modules (ibar, ibox, etc etc) We can cover

Re: [E-devel] WWW!

2007-04-25 Thread dan sinclair
On 25-Apr-07, at 3:05 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: Ok.. As you may noticed, I've putted some content. I need your opinion on it - is it nice, are the images nice - are they too big or too small or are they nice at all. I think their a bit on the big side. A few images are fine but I

Re: [E-devel] E and gui-toolkits.

2007-03-21 Thread dan sinclair
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder though if one can write apps with e's toolkits that would allow for 'overriding' the toolkit's theme (with an app-provided edje goup say), for a given toolkit widget? Also, is it possible to build 'custom widgets' that can be given app-specific

Re: [E-devel] E and gui-toolkits.

2007-03-21 Thread dan sinclair
On 21-Mar-07, at 7:10 PM, Simon TRENY wrote: In Etk, as in Ewl I think, you can change the theme of a specific widget or change globally the theme used by all the widgets. About custom widgets, it's indeed possible to build your own widget directly in the app's code, the only difficulty here

Re: [E-devel] Is efreet still coming?

2007-03-20 Thread dan sinclair
Christopher Michael wrote: I've been reading through the efreet code and it's not too shabby, so big (insert your favorite type) cookie to the authors there :) but before I jump head first into this porting nightmare I have a few remaining questions 1) Is it really worth the effort

Re: [E-devel] Is efreet still coming?

2007-03-19 Thread dan sinclair
Brian Mattern wrote: Efreet is pretty much complete, other than being itegrated into e17. Unfortunately, dan doesn't use e17 on anymore and seb and I have been pretty busy lately. I still use e17 at work, but don't have time to do development there. I just don't use it at home anymore as

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/engrave davemds

2007-03-12 Thread dan sinclair
Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : davemds Project : e17 Module : libs/engrave @@ -452,10 +452,9 @@ font_key = engrave_part_state_text_font_get(eps); efont = engrave_file_font_by_name_find(ef, font_key); - font_name =

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/evas raster

2007-03-06 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: unfortunately - we have issues like fdo menus and icon specs that REQUIRE svg support... :(:(:( big problems :( i could do something like fork of a child process that converts via a pipe - at least if it dies the parent won't, and we will hit a

Re: [E-devel] Google Summer of Code.

2007-03-02 Thread dan sinclair
Gil Pinheiro wrote: we have tried to get in for the past few years and been rejected. last time we were rejected basically because enlightenment is not relevant and is a dead project of no interest which is my summary/paraphrasing of what google thinks of us. so good luck. i have no

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