Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on
this?
Recent example -
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/27qt7k/bodhi_linux_300_rc1_released_ubuntu_1404_base/
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:38:20 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
jeffhoogl...@linux.com wrote:
Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts
on this?
Recent example -
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/27qt7k/bodhi_linux_300_rc1_released_ubuntu_1404_base/
Tell the people that
On 10/06/2014 16:38, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on
this?
Recent example -
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/27qt7k/bodhi_linux_300_rc1_released_ubuntu_1404_base/
Jeff,
I feel the same way as those posters, just
First a disclaimer: I Love Enlightenment and use it as my main
workstation OS. While I only started using it full-time last year, I
have been following it's development since 1997. As things stand, I
would not want to use another system.
The ugly and awful truth from my perspective: yes,
Jeff,
you are right that those guys do not really say anything helpful. I am
using the default theme and I find it both beautiful and usable, as well
as Enlightenment as a whole. It is very carefully engineered and not
getting in the way.
To me, the theme is classic, yet very polished,
On 10/06/14 04:20, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
works for me with a kde app... i don't know what's up with you there, but if
you used the e scim setup, it runs the scim core for you on login and sets
several env vars:
I did use the input method settings in E to configure SCIM;
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no wrote:
On 10/06/14 04:20, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
works for me with a kde app... i don't know what's up with you there, but if
you used the e scim setup, it runs the scim core for you on login and sets
several env
On 10/06/14 18:23, Iván Briano wrote:
Is there some efl package I might be missing, or a compile time option
the packager may have missed?
Maybe, did you have SCIM installed by the time you built the EFL?
I didn't build anything, I installed the packages available in this
repo:
Ugly: matter of taste. I've always liked the default themes a lot, and
some others in the old pre-E17 days. The color variations on the old
bw theme not so much. Inconsistency with gtk themes is the problem for
me. It's very hard to find a good dark gtk theme, that doesn't mess up
web browsing in
2014-06-10 11:38 GMT-03:00 Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com:
Thoughts on
this?
It's a matter of taste.
Maybe if developers followed this user's advices, we'd have even more
hateful comments on this same thread.
My preferred E theme was the grunge theme, but E breaks compat with themes
On 10/06/2014 17:34, William wrote:
I have long played with the thought that perhaps there should be a
secondary, not so super-scary version of Enlightenment for regular
Linux users. This would have to have a default interface with highly
refined aesthetics and functional defaults. It
On 06/10/2014 11:58 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 10/06/2014 17:34, William wrote:
I have long played with the thought that perhaps there should be a
secondary, not so super-scary version of Enlightenment for regular
Linux users. This would have to have a default interface with highly
refined
everybody know it is ugly :-D what's the news?
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com wrote:
Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on
this?
Recent example -
I don't worry too much about the Settings Panel horror, because at some
point in the future this will be fixed, apparently. ¹
I also don't play around with Settings too much because I get lost.
1 : https://phab.enlightenment.org/T553
-*Yomi*
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:34 AM, William
Jeff,
Red, orange, brown are not suitable colors for desktop environment. I suspect
you used orange as a menu highlight to symbolically indicate that Bodhi is an
ubuntu derivative.
Not a good choice. Take it out. Mark Shuttleworth is an artistic illiterate.
Think of this: why matadors use
people complain anyway. if is new then the old was better if keep the way
is not modern/ugly/...
look at firefox/opera/kde/gnome/...
full with heaters :)
i dont like your theme but im sure others will like it, keep your way :)
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM, mk joz_...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Jeff,
Agreed. Bhodi's default theme is painful to look at. Read some Johannes
Itten, like 'elements of color'.
On Jun 10, 2014 3:35 PM, mk joz_...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Jeff,
Red, orange, brown are not suitable colors for desktop environment. I
suspect you used orange as a menu highlight to symbolically
Chris,
These same people complain about the default E theme and the dozens of E17
themes out there.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Christopher Barry
christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed. Bhodi's default theme is painful to look at. Read some Johannes
Itten, like 'elements of
It is just beyond frustrating that even here people are just linking
abstract ideas. What is a cut and dry solution? Give me hexcodes/RBG values
for things that are suppose to look modern and mesh well.
I'm not an artist and I don't claim to be. I am just looking for reasonable
feedback that
2014-06-10 18:33 GMT-03:00 Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com:
It is just beyond frustrating that even here people are just linking
abstract ideas. What is a cut and dry solution? Give me hexcodes/RBG values
for things that are suppose to look modern and mesh well.
What about using
Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on
this?
lots of people still don't understand that you are _not_ forced to drive a
Trabant/Volkswagen/Opel/stupid car for the rest of your life if you don't
want to. fancy a Viper, Ferrari, Tesla, Dacia or 2CV? be our
While I admit that I never installed any, all of the e17 themes strike
me as highly individualistic, rather than something I would associate
with mass appeal.
It is just beyond frustrating that even here people are just linking
abstract ideas. What is a cut and dry solution? Give me
The latest Ubuntu LTS release (trusty) has been out for two months now, but
the latest distribution in the PPA is saucy. The packages in the PPA have
broken dependencies in trusty, and cannot be installed even after modifying
the PPA URL to use saucy instead of trusty.
There is a working e17
You can easily add Bodhi's E19 desktop to any 14.04 install -
http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2014/03/howto-add-bodhis-enlightenment-desktop.html
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM, E F orobo...@hotmail.com wrote:
The latest Ubuntu LTS release (trusty) has been out for two months now,
but the
the beauty of Linux is that you can change distro, desktop environment or/and
window manager. and if you still don't like it, you can build your own theme
or get the source code and make it the way you like it best. at no cost,
without loss of data or productivity.
This is the sort of
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:31:05 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said:
On 10/06/14 18:23, Iván Briano wrote:
Is there some efl package I might be missing, or a compile time option
the packager may have missed?
Maybe, did you have SCIM installed by the time you built the EFL?
I
On 11/06/14 00:30, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
is there an scim ecore_imf module installed? /usr/lib/ecore_imf/modules for
you
i guess (adjust /usr as appropriate).
There does seem to be, I have this file;
/usr/lib64/ecore_imf/modules/xim/v-1.10/module.so
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:15:58 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said:
On 11/06/14 00:30, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
is there an scim ecore_imf module installed? /usr/lib/ecore_imf/modules for
you i guess (adjust /usr as appropriate).
There does seem to be, I have this
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:53:29 + E F orobo...@hotmail.com said:
enlightenment never supported ubuntu. some individuals dod some packaging at
some point and made ppas or voulunteered to be official package maintainers and
put them into debian and/or ubuntu. a lot of the core devs now have
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:15:58 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said:
On 11/06/14 00:30, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
is there an scim ecore_imf module installed? /usr/lib/ecore_imf/modules for
you
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:38:20 -0500 Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com said:
i'm going to respond here and include some stuff put into the thread so far.
before i do that note that several efl devs you'd want to talk to are not
subscribed to this mailing list, so expect you are seeing a subset
On 11/06/14 04:21, Iván Briano wrote:
There does seem to be, I have this file;
/usr/lib64/ecore_imf/modules/xim/v-1.10/module.so
then... i'm not sure why it doesn't work. ecore_imf can't find it's modules?
that'd be odd.
That's the plain XIM module, not SCIM.
Okay, so the package
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:21:03 -0300 Iván Briano sachi...@gmail.com said:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:15:58 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said:
On 11/06/14 00:30, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
is
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 05:47:20 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said:
On 11/06/14 04:21, Iván Briano wrote:
There does seem to be, I have this file;
/usr/lib64/ecore_imf/modules/xim/v-1.10/module.so
then... i'm not sure why it doesn't work. ecore_imf can't find it's
modules? that'd
My understanding is that engage hasn't compiled for a while, due to changes
in the compositing layer.
I really miss engage. I miss it enough I will attempt to fix it. I can code
and I have some experience with graphics toolkits. I also have a week or so
in the near future where I can focus on
They aren't just talking about the Bodhi theme. They are talking about E in
general.
That web update thread goes back to a point where we don't have a default
Bodhi theme - we have a selection of themes at startup which includes your
dark default theme.
What doesn't look consistent and/or
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 00:22:08 -0500 Jeff Hoogland jeffhoogl...@linux.com said:
They aren't just talking about the Bodhi theme. They are talking about E in
general.
i read the thread - the reddit one, and they are. when they are specific:
Looks like a baby took a shit on your screen as you were
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