Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-12 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
When I feel like enjoying compiles I just pick a 10 kg popcorn carn, 50 cold beers and fire up emerge chromium on my tv. Better done on sunday morning. Jokes aside, I don't want to blame anyone, but as Alan McKinnon said above, that is supposed to be the responsibility of the one that makes the

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-12 Thread Austin Morgan
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:53:37AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:45:30 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 17:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said:

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-12 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:42:13 -0600 Austin Morgan admor...@morgancomputers.net wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:53:37AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:45:30 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 17:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:42:13 -0600 Austin Morgan admor...@morgancomputers.net said: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:53:37AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:45:30 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 17:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread Mick
On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Well, I don't have any problem with using whatever is suggested upstream. The thing with USE flags is that they can be set globally, and when an ebuild has an USE flag to enable or disable a given feature you are supposed to be

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Well, I don't have any problem with using whatever is suggested upstream. The thing with USE flags is that they can be set globally, and when an ebuild has an USE flag to enable or disable a given

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Well, I don't have any problem with using whatever is suggested upstream. The thing with USE flags is that they

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:41:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Well, I don't

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 17:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Well, I don't have any problem with using whatever is

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:45:30 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 17:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote: On Monday 10 Feb 2014 13:27:00

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 02:46:45 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:41:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:27:43 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/02/2014 10:28, Mick wrote:

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-11 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:49:16 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 02:46:45 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:41:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-10 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Hi again. Just for the sake of testing and based on the suggestion of someone at the Gentoo fora, I recompiled the whole E stack to use X instead of xcb. I have no idea if it makes a difference or if it's just coincidence that E hasn't locked my machine for a few days. By the way, yesterday I

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:26:24 +0100 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com said: Hi again. Just for the sake of testing and based on the suggestion of someone at the Gentoo fora, I recompiled the whole E stack to use X instead of xcb. I have no idea if it makes a

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-10 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Well, I don't have any problem with using whatever is suggested upstream. The thing with USE flags is that they can be set globally, and when an ebuild has an USE flag to enable or disable a given feature you are supposed to be able to use that, that is, unless the ebuild has an ewarn about it or

[e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Hello. I am trying to run e17 in my Pavilion zd8000 on Gentoo Linux, using xorg server 1.14.3 and mesa 9.2.5. But when I fire up enlightenment_start my screen shuts off and never turns on again (well, I've waited for a couple minutes). There's the usual disk activity (I start some terms and a

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 10:13:59 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Hello. I am trying to run e17 in my Pavilion zd8000 on Gentoo Linux, using xorg server 1.14.3 and mesa 9.2.5. But when I fire up enlightenment_start my screen shuts off and never turns on again (well, I've waited for a couple

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Hi. The only reasons why I hadn't done that already is that e18 is too young and that I try to live on the stable side of things. My logic is well, since e17 has taken so long to reach a stable stage (though it doesn't work for me anyway), then e18 which is a year old should be more unstable.

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good though I guess that can be fine tuned. But there were other more serious problems though. I had to restart e18 a few times after disabling some plugins that come

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 11:34:34 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good though I guess that can be fine tuned. But there were other more serious problems though. I had to

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2014-02-08 13:01 GMT+01:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 11:34:34 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good though I guess that can be fine

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
I didn't state it because nowadays is the default and the only maintained driver, but I use the gallium mesna driver, not the classic one, since that's what upstream considers stable and the one that's maintaied and getting bug fixes and new features. 2014-02-08 13:11 GMT+01:00 Jesús J. Guerrero

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/02/2014 14:01, Mick wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 11:34:34 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good though I guess that can be fine tuned. But there were other more

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 12:13:59 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: I didn't state it because nowadays is the default and the only maintained driver, but I use the gallium mesna driver, not the classic one, since that's what upstream considers stable and the one that's maintaied and getting bug

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 13:08:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 08/02/2014 14:01, Mick wrote: On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 11:34:34 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:34:34 +0100 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com said: Hi again. Well, e18, as you presumed, booted fine, meaning that at least I got to the desktop. The performance was not good though I guess that can be fine tuned. But there were other more

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Mick
On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 13:45:55 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:34:34 +0100 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella actually the ati chips are not one of the better supported. i have had NO end of trouble with them. slowness, bugs, freezing etc. fglrx ati drivers were the culprit at the time

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 14:31:33 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com said: On Saturday 08 Feb 2014 13:45:55 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:34:34 +0100 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella actually the ati chips are not one of the better supported. i have had NO end of trouble with them.

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
@Alan McKinnon and @Mick, I will double check that, though I've had my amount og Gentoo during more than a decade and I highly doubt that leftovers and ABI breakage are an issue in this concrete case. @Karsten Haitzler, if you can give me some hint on what and how to look, I'm willing to do so. I

Re: [e-users] e17 turns off my LCD

2014-02-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:52:38 +0100 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com said: @Alan McKinnon and @Mick, I will double check that, though I've had my amount og Gentoo during more than a decade and I highly doubt that leftovers and ABI breakage are an issue in this concrete