Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-12 Thread Christopher Barry
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:49:23 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you are using the opengl compositing with radeon driver. I think I

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-12 Thread Mick
On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 18:18:59 Christopher Barry wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:49:23 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Stefano
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on my ati/radeon, which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:48:07 + Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said:

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:30:35 Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. Same here. I haven't used fglrx since

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: actually i had a longer reply, but i'll just keep it short. so in alan mckinnon land it's perfectly fine to tell people offering advice based on direct experience to stfu when they disagree with you (you seem to like

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread John C
Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? You've got a definite problem with people disagreeing with your opinion, and in some

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:14:26 +0100 John C goeland...@yahoo.fr said: Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? where. here is

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for FREE!. And we love it. It's Raster's baby, and he has the right to do anything he damn well

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for FREE!. And we love it. It's

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:37:58 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:38:38 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com said: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you are using the opengl compositing with radeon driver. I think I may have some remnants of ati stuff on my box, and would like to see what

[e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-10 Thread Christopher Barry
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more stability? i would say its rock solidly stable.

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding edge than e17. Do you

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: ...snip... I read on another thread you